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Shepard Quest Mk V, Base of Operations (ME/MCU)

Meh, I guess I just don't see the canon Reapers as a very compelling enemy, compared to the Quarian/Geth political issue and some of the other issues in ME galactic politics (humans trying to muscle their way into the Council, possibly making peace with the Rachni, conflict over the genophage, etc). About the only thing I find compelling about the Reapers and the cycles is the "Indoctrination Theory" fan-explanation for the ending to ME3.

Although if we do run into the Reapers, they damn well should have von Neuman swarms of their own, and worse in their arsenal. They're hundreds of millions of years old AIs who have been preying off of the collective creativity of thousands of galactic civilizations for most of that time; they should at least have all the powers of the Entities from Worm, like the semi-concept hax power of the Sting shard, golden f*ck-you planet-cracking beam weapons, etc. We should be having to research crap like planet-sized super-dreadnaughts with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception-powered railguns, dimension-crossing countermeasures, and ZPE drives powered by supermassive toroidal singularities just to keep up.
 
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TheEyes said:
Meh, I guess I just don't see the canon Reapers as a very compelling enemy, compared to the Quarian/Geth political issue and some of the other issues in ME galactic politics (humans trying to muscle their way into the Council, possibly making peace with the Rachni, conflict over the genophage, etc). About the only thing I find compelling about the Reapers and the cycles is the "Indoctrination Theory" fan-explanation for the ending to ME3.

Although if we do run into the Reapers, they damn well should have von Neuman swarms of their own, and worse in their arsenal. They're hundreds of millions of years old AIs who have been preying off of the collective creativity of thousands of galactic civilizations for most of that time; they should at least have all the powers of the Entities from Worm, like the semi-concept hax power of the Sting shard, golden f*ck-you planet-cracking beam weapons, etc. We should be having to research crap like planet-sized super-dreadnaughts with Mystic Eyes of Death Perception-powered railguns, dimension-crossing countermeasures, and ZPE drives powered by supermassive toroidal singularities just to keep up.
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Not really and not at all. First, Reapers being A.I.s is somewhat arguable. Honestly, they are more like complex V.I.s in my eyes. Secondly, they were preying of species below a certain technological point. That's the whole idea - to stop advancement of galaxy at a certain point before it can destroy the galaxy / reapers.

Reapers are numbered a legion, they are massive, they are autonomous, they are advanced, but they aren't advancing and they are static. They are within reach of canon ME technologically. At least within a thousand years of canon ME.
 
Yog said:
Not really and not at all. First, Reapers being A.I.s is somewhat arguable. Honestly, they are more like complex V.I.s in my eyes. Secondly, they were preying of species below a certain technological point. That's the whole idea - to stop advancement of galaxy at a certain point before it can destroy the galaxy / reapers.

Reapers are numbered a legion, they are massive, they are autonomous, they are advanced, but they aren't advancing and they are static. They are within reach of canon ME technologically. At least within a thousand years of canon ME.
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Complex VI = AI.

Again, the ME defintion of AI is vague at best, and arbitary at worst.
 
Here's a question I've had for a while: there was evidence of the Reapers wiping out at least one civilization that was only in the equivalent of humanity's Iron Age. Why did they do that? Aren't they supposed to wait until they at least achieve space-flight?
 
Leingod said:
Here's a question I've had for a while: there was evidence of the Reapers wiping out at least one civilization that was only in the equivalent of humanity's Iron Age. Why did they do that? Aren't they supposed to wait until they at least achieve space-flight?
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The most reasonable explanation is that they predicted that said species would advance to dangerous levels within say 2000 years. Which means had they left that species alone, they would have had to return anyway in less than 2000 to destroy that species. And if so, better destroy them right away so they don't need to return so quickly.

The reapers seem to prefer long waits between harvests (last time was what, 50000 years ago?), so it makes sense that during a harvest they would destroy not just the dangerous civilizations, but also civilizations that are showing signs that they would become dangerous within relatively short time.
 
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Datakim said:
The most reasonable explanation is that they predicted that said species would advance to dangerous levels within say 2000 years. Which means had they left that species alone, they would have had to return anyway in less than 2000 to destroy that species. And if so, better destroy them right away so they don't need to return so quickly.

The reapers seem to prefer long waits between harvests (last time was what, 50000 years ago?), so it makes sense that during a harvest they would destroy not just the dangerous civilizations, but also civilizations that are showing signs that they would become dangerous within relatively short time.
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Other possiblity includes Reapers discovering some special property of said species, like, say, Leviathan-like mind-control or complete immunity to indoctrination, or biological immortality coupled with asexual reproduction (by spores or something like that), or ancestral memories or anything like that and deciding to destroy them before they could develop technological civilization.
 
Speaking of BS species. Any chance our advances will prevent krypton (DC1938 in Alliance database) from exploding? Kidding, kidding, that would probably be a bit too much crack. Could make for a funny omake though.
 
Yog said:
Speaking of BS species. Any chance our advances will prevent krypton (DC1938 in Alliance database) from exploding? Kidding, kidding, that would probably be a bit too much crack. Could make for a funny omake though.
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With some mining tech it shouldn't be to hard if they have any inkling it's coming.

Drill down and place shielded geothermal ME Cores around the Planetary Core to reduce pressure then send down auto miners to remove the dangerous materials for industrial purposes.

Though personally I wonder if it's artificially induced from a previous civilisation's anti-Reaper weapon. Directly or by a safety disarming it failing
 
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With some mining tech it shouldn't be to hard if they have any inkling it's coming.

Drill down and place shielded geothermal ME Cores around the Planetary Core to reduce pressure then send down auto miners to remove the dangerous materials for industrial purposes.

Though personally I wonder if it's artificially induced from a previous civilisation's anti-Reaper weapon. Directly or by a safety disarming it failing
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Eh... That's some serious tech you are talking here. Planets are thousands of kilometers thick (Earth is 6400 kilometers in radius). The deepest we ever drilled is 12.3 km. We'd need to extend this at least a hundred times.
 
Yog said:
Eh... That's some serious tech you are talking here. Planets are thousands of kilometers thick (Earth is 6400 kilometers in radius). The deepest we ever drilled is 12.3 km. We'd need to extend this at least a hundred times.
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The biggest problem is materials and we do have a super alloy tree.

Something to seal the walls of the bore would be helpful too like an alloy that can be sprayed on then hardens.
 
Madfish said:
The biggest problem is materials and we do have a super alloy tree.

Something to seal the walls of the bore would be helpful too like an alloy that can be sprayed on then hardens.
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True. And, leaving aside obvious easter egg, saving an entire species from dying out would be very cool. Give us a protectorate too, possibly. And a very grateful population.
 
Yog said:
Speaking of BS species. Any chance our advances will prevent krypton (DC1938 in Alliance database) from exploding? Kidding, kidding, that would probably be a bit too much crack. Could make for a funny omake though.
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Let's study the physics of that star, we must know how a red supergiant was stable long enough to allow a garden world and intelligent life to develop on one of its planets. :p
 
Khaos said:
Let's study the physics of that star, we must know how a red supergiant was stable long enough to allow a garden world and intelligent life to develop on one of its planets. :p
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I think it was more or less confirmed that it was nothing more than a shout out to Superman (having the planet explode, while orbiting a red supergiant, with the ship thay picked up the child being called the SSV Kent), the 'three beings of white light' that the mad Volus is looking for is believed to be either a Ultraman shout out or even an Evangelion shout out depending on who you ask.
 
Tabron89 said:
I think it was more or less confirmed that it was nothing more than a shout out to Superman (having the planet explode, while orbiting a red supergiant, with the ship thay picked up the child being called the SSV Kent), the 'three beings of white light' that the mad Volus is looking for is believed to be either a Ultraman shout out or even an Evangelion shout out depending on who you ask.
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It was a joke, hence the smiley at the end.
 
To be fair, saving this world from exploding would be a pretty cool way to introduce an original species.

Imagine: years down the line, a young Kal-El applies to be a photographer for Paragon Industries.
 
Not to mention all the million of tons of ore's and minerals that would rush out from the core tap needed to take pressure off the planet.

Even if only a fraction of a % was given to the planet, We just introduced the race to money hat's.

Money hats for ever one.
 
To all those who spout "The GM will punish hard those who will want to go completely OP with technology and science" this is the GM's post on the matter:
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Regarding limiting growth, I'm canning that idea. Go ahead, spread across the galaxy like a plague of high-tech locust. It might be educational :)

At some point, you'll probably want to look into constructing 40K-style industrial worlds in order to have room for your facilities, but I think you'll manage.
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Moar random tech ripoffs original ideas:

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Necrodermis Silver skin
Requires: Unobtanium + The Universal Constructor
You did not ripoff this from 40k! It is just a coincidence that a real-life material with similiar properties can be created with high enough understanding about material science and tech advanced enough to make it! Really! You are not even kidding here!

Sythetic/Organic Intelligence Symbiosis
Requires: Pure Software AI + Advanced Neural Implant
Bridge the gap between the meatbags and beings that exist only as patterns in the computer code! And take advantage of increased computing power and... well... what did the organics bring to the table again (aside from you)? ...Not going to war with every synthetic? Okay. Anyway, everybody wins!

Uploading/Resleeving
Requires: Pure Software AI + Advanced Neural Implant + Extremis
Well, this is one way to achieve immortality. And make backups of your mind, which in your case is kind of important, considering what a tragic loss to humanity (and maybe to the rest of the galaxy) your permanent death would be. Also, making sure that the person can be return to a fleshy existence if they want to should most likely be done in the same project. Extremis makes growing/building a new body (and copying the proper neural connections) based on DNA records and morphological data a piece of cake, if they even want it to be the exact replica of their previous one. If not, hey, morphological freedom!

The Stars Are Right! Mwahahahaha!
Requires: Necrodermis + Uploading/Resleeving + Sythetic/Organic Intelligence Symbiosis + Mk IV Arc Reactor + Superior Biotic Implant + etc. + etc...
Well. The Reapers want to play it rough, do they? And what better way to make you displeasure known to them than uploading your mind into a literally god-like shell, and showing the little corpse-ships who they messed with?

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And all this time I could have been writing that "Joker (or currently just Jeff) becomes Peak Human -project test subject" omake. Also, I may or may not be slight Necron fanboy who is trying to get started playing against much more experienced friends with my favorite Terminator-ripoffs. :p
 
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Stroth said:
Yeah, let's not take inspiration from the soul eating star zombies.
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Ahem. Soul eating star vampires, thank you very much.

Anyway, it is just a throway idea for a possible "Ascencion/Transcendence" -tree. There is also that "Dark Matter/Energy Entity" -approach that I mentioned earlier.

But if you had to pick a race for Revy to imitate from 40k, who else would you pick? The Orks? ...Please don't say yes.
 
meianmaru said:
Ahem. Soul eating star vampires, thank you very much.

Anyway, it is just a throway idea for a possible "Ascencion/Transcendence" -tree. There is also that "Dark Matter/Energy Entity" -approach that I mentioned earlier.

But if you had to pick a race for Revy to imitate from 40k, who else would you pick? The Orks? ...Please don't say yes.
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I were about to say Eldar or Tau, but.....


Anyways creating a race of aggressive fungoids with latent psychic(WAAAAAAGH!!!!) and ????(whatever makes their technology functional) ability, would be quite a an achievement.
 
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