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Man and Mountain: A Xianxia/Cultivation Quest

Would you like to see the rolls?

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ninjastar said:
but remember you might not find what you are looking for.
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This what our Heavenly Luck is for!

On the more serious note, I would be fine with us just finding a body cultivation technique that's somewhat connected with fire. There is also the fact that it would be great to find something that could balance our yang fire with yin something ... Would yin earth work? Setting up a highly flammable terrain and then using fire to light it up?

I would really like to find something that fits Xiao Fangs personality that's not only about fire and lighting things up though, but it's soooo hard for my smol brain >_<.

Does anyone have any idea what sort of yin based technique we could pick up?
 
Jack-o'-Lantern said:
On the more serious note, I would be fine with us just finding a body cultivation technique that's somewhat connected with fire. There is also the fact that it would be great to find something that could balance our yang fire with yin something ... Would yin earth work? Setting up a highly flammable terrain and then using fire to light it up?
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Something revolving around earth should work if we have a fire type cultivation method since earth is yin in relationship to fire.
 
[X] Pyro
-[X] Walk the path less travelled
--[X] Black Iron Body Technique: A method of using Fire Qi to strengthen and temper the physical body, ultimately imbuing the physical body with the might of an ancient beast.
--[X] Immaculate Cauldron Body: A strange art that approaches cultivation as an art of evolution without compromise, this applies advanced alchemical principles that seeks to transform the body beyond the limits of even ancient lifeforms through the wisdom of man.
--[X]Vermilion Flame art: A Fire phase technique that has relation to the Vermillion bird of the south in which the cultivator strives to gain qi similiar to that of the vermilion bird.
 
Just a thing to keep in mind guys so we don't fuck up our cultivation. Do not cultivate Yin techniques!

We have the Phoenix bloodline which is usually associated with Yang. It's usually easy to recognize them, Yin cultivation techniques and skills are 'Cold' or 'Dark'. While Yang cultivation techniques and skills are 'Hot' and 'Bright'.

If we cultivate a Yin technique, it'll clash with our Phoenix bloodline and probably make our cultivation go berserk due to the incompatibility.
 
[X] Walk the path less travelled
-[X] Black Iron Body Technique: A method of using Fire Qi to strengthen and temper the physical body, ultimately imbuing the physical body with the might of an ancient beast.
-[X] Molten Sun Ascendance Art: Drawing in potent Yang Qi, the Molten Sun Ascendance serves best in contrast with strong Yin Qi to achieve a state of balance where both are made stronger for the relation.
-[X] Immaculate Cauldron Body: A strange art that approaches cultivation as an art of evolution without compromise, this applies advanced alchemical principles that seeks to transform the body beyond the limits of even ancient lifeforms through the wisdom of man.
 
[X] Plan Reactor Core
-[X] Devouring Vortex Body: Cycling concentrated Yin Qi, the Devouring Vortex Body makes use of the Yin qi's attraction of other qi to constantly draw in qi from around them while the cycling motion prevents it from making contact and being neutralized. Devouring Vortex Body is best used with qi intensive arts, due to the endless fuel it represents.
-[X] Molten Sun Ascendance Art: Drawing in potent Yang Qi, the Molten Sun Ascendance serves best in contrast with strong Yin Qi to achieve a state of balance where both are made stronger for the relation.
-[X] Perfecting Crucible Soul: Igniting Fire Qi, the Perfecting Crucible Soul renders the cultivator's soul as an alchemical crucible, transforming qi it consumes into other forms of qi through the touch of fire.
 
Terran Imperium said:
Just a thing to keep in mind guys so we don't fuck up our cultivation. Do not cultivate Yin techniques!

We have the Phoenix bloodline which is usually associated with Yang. It's usually easy to recognize them, Yin cultivation techniques and skills are 'Cold' or 'Dark'. While Yang cultivation techniques and skills are 'Hot' and 'Bright'.

If we cultivate a Yin technique, it'll clash with our Phoenix bloodline and probably make our cultivation go berserk due to the incompatibility.
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Please do your factchecking first:
en.wikipedia.org

Fenghuang - Wikipedia

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The fenghuang has very positive connotations. It is a symbol of high virtue and grace. The fenghuang also symbolizes the union of yin and yang. The first chapter of the Classic of Mountains and Seas , the "Nanshang-jing", records each part of fenghuang's body symbolizes a word. The head represents virtue (德), the wing represents duty (義), the back represents propriety (禮), the abdomen says credibility (信) and the chest represents mercy (仁).

The dragon is intensely Yang, but the Fenghuang is the fusion of both, because it started out as two birds.
If you want things that may clash with it it'd be Earth or Water elements, as its a creature of sky, stars and fire.
 
[X] Plan Reactor Core

This plan is pretty much what I wanted.
ninjastar said:
lmao I think people got the wrong idea, you were meant to create general search terms not specific techniques but it's too late now so I'll take it, but remember you might not find what you are looking for.
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Part of the reason that it turned out this way is that to come up with search terms, we first need a technique we can base those terms on. At which point you might as well vote for the cool technique, and not something that might get you the cool technique. Also, coming up with cool techniques is more fun than just choosing search terms with no clear meaning what it might produce.

It will probably work better the second time, since then we probably already have a good idea what niche we're trying to fill. It would also help if you added a description what certain terms actually means for the result (Adding Eight Trigrams does this to the technique, four symbols those this, etc). Because I just don't know a lot of the symbology, and so I can't use it to get what I want.
 
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veekie said:
Please do your factchecking first:
en.wikipedia.org

Fenghuang - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
Article:
The fenghuang has very positive connotations. It is a symbol of high virtue and grace. The fenghuang also symbolizes the union of yin and yang. The first chapter of the Classic of Mountains and Seas , the "Nanshang-jing", records each part of fenghuang's body symbolizes a word. The head represents virtue (德), the wing represents duty (義), the back represents propriety (禮), the abdomen says credibility (信) and the chest represents mercy (仁).

The dragon is intensely Yang, but the Fenghuang is the fusion of both, because it started out as two birds.
If you want things that may clash with it it'd be Earth or Water elements, as its a creature of sky, stars and fire.
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You would be right, and most Xianxia do base themselves off Chinese mythology but most don't really respect it to the detail.
In all cultivation novels I've read so far, the Phoenix is a creature of fire who is predominantly Yang.

It isn't necessarily accurate as you pointed out but since this is a Xianxia quest and not a Chinese Mythology quest, it probably follows mainstream Xianxia tropes and concepts. As to why Xianxia authors do this, I wouldn't know. :tongue:
 
Terran Imperium said:
You would be right, and most Xianxia do base themselves off Chinese mythology but most don't really respect it to the detail.
In all cultivation novels I've read so far, the Phoenix is a creature of fire who is predominantly Yang.

It isn't necessarily accurate as you pointed out but since this is a Xianxia quest and not a Chinese Mythology quest, it probably follows mainstream Xianxia tropes and concepts. As to why Xianxia authors do this, I wouldn't know. :tongue:
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This quest does follow traditional Chinese mythology, I spent way to many hours studying it for it to be any other way lol, but the reason for the mix up is the Chinese fenghuang isn't really the same thing as a traditional Greek pheonix, reborn from ashes and fire, however since they were both red birds early translaters translated them as 'phoenixes' as a result many Chinese authors will use the term interchangeably when describing the reborn from ash western Phoenix and the fenghuang which symbolises virtue, marriage and the union of yin and yang. Not to say that both won't exist in my quest or something, but even if you did have western Phoenix blood it's so dilute it wouldn't make a difference and it's also important to remember that yin and yang are not necessarily opposing forces, but can also be complementing forces
 
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Sufficient Velocity For some reason Pyro is being counted as two separate plans, but I will make sure to add both together when the final Talley is counted, It is winning by a landslide with 13 votes total

9 people have voted
[X] Pyro
6 people have voted
[X] Plan Reactor Core
-[X] Devouring Vortex Body: Cycling concentrated Yin Qi, the Devouring Vortex Body makes use of the Yin qi's attraction of other qi to constantly draw in qi from around them while the cycling motion prevents it from making contact and being neutralized. Devouring Vortex Body is best used with qi intensive arts, due to the endless fuel it represents.
-[X] Molten Sun Ascendance Art: Drawing in potent Yang Qi, the Molten Sun Ascendance serves best in contrast with strong Yin Qi to achieve a state of balance where both are made stronger for the relation.
-[X] Perfecting Crucible Soul: Igniting Fire Qi, the Perfecting Crucible Soul renders the cultivator's soul as an alchemical crucible, transforming qi it consumes into other forms of qi through the touch of fire.
4 people have voted
[X] Pyro
-[X] Walk the path less travelled
--[X] Black Iron Body Technique: A method of using Fire Qi to strengthen and temper the physical body, ultimately imbuing the physical body with the might of an ancient beast.
--[X] Immaculate Cauldron Body: A strange art that approaches cultivation as an art of evolution without compromise, this applies advanced alchemical principles that seeks to transform the body beyond the limits of even ancient lifeforms through the wisdom of man.
--[X]Vermilion Flame art: A Fire phase technique that has relation to the Vermillion bird of the south in which the cultivator strives to gain qi similiar to that of the vermilion bird.
3 people have voted
[X] Walk the path less travelled
-[X] Black Iron Body Technique: A method of using Fire Qi to strengthen and temper the physical body, ultimately imbuing the physical body with the might of an ancient beast.
-[X] Molten Sun Ascendance Art: Drawing in potent Yang Qi, the Molten Sun Ascendance serves best in contrast with strong Yin Qi to achieve a state of balance where both are made stronger for the relation.
-[X] Immaculate Cauldron Body: A strange art that approaches cultivation as an art of evolution without compromise, this applies advanced alchemical principles that seeks to transform the body beyond the limits of even ancient lifeforms through the wisdom of man.
1 people have voted
[X]Orthodox

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[X]Walk the path less travelled
--[X] Look for arts mentioning Phoenixes, the Vermillion Bird, or the Golden Crow
 
I highly doubt that QM wouldn't warn us about crippling our cultivation by accident with a yin technique ... right? RIGHT!?

Also, how about poison? From what we've seen so far Xiao Fang is the type of person who would definitely play dirty during a fight. So how about that?
 
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Resources
  • Informational
    • So since a lot of people have no idea what these terms mean here are some good resources that quickly summarize a lot of things. If you have any other questions ask me and I will try and answer them.

    What Dao Heck
    This explains the whole yin and yang to the eight trigrams really well and is only one page.

    Glossary of common cultivation terms
    A glossary explaining some of the common terms in Xianxia

    Common Chinese Idioms
    Some common Chinese idioms/ expressions that may or may not feature in the quest.

    The five phases
    Just look at the diagram showing the overcoming cycle and generating cycle and you'll get a good idea of the 5 phases. The 5 phases are Water, Wood, Metal, Earth and Fire in no particular order and each of the phases overcomes and is overcome by one of the other phases. Each of them generates and is generated by one of the other phases.




    The Eight Trigrams
    The Eight trigrams are Heaven, Earth, Mountain, Lake, Water, Fire, Wind and Lighting. By combining them together you get the 64 hexagrams and it is believed everything in existence can be explained by them. Here is the common image of Bagua(The Eight Trigrams)


    The 4 symbols/The 4 Auspicious Beasts. 4 creatures that each represent a season, a direction and an element. The Vermillion Bird of the south that represents fire and the season of summer. The black Tortoise of the north that represents Water and winter. The white tiger of the west that symbolises autumn and metal. The azure dragon of the east that represents wood and spring. Finally the yellow dragon/kilin represents the center, the change of season and the phase of earth.
     
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    • ninjastar said:
    This quest does follow traditional Chinese mythology, I spent way to many hours studying it for it to be any other way lol, but the reason for the mix up is the Chinese fenghuang isn't really the same thing as a traditional Greek pheonix, reborn from ashes and fire, however since they were both red birds early translaters translated them as 'phoenixes' as a result many Chinese authors will use the term interchangeably when describing the reborn from ash western Phoenix and the fenghuang which symbolises virtue, marriage and the union of yin and yang. Not to say that both won't exist in my quest or something, but even if you did have western Phoenix blood it's so dilute it wouldn't make a difference and it's also important to remember that yin and yang are not necessarily opposing forces, but can also be complementing forces
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    Yeah, its something hard to convey. Yin and Yang are complementary forces. Pure Yang and pure Yin do little on their own, but they counter each other's flaws and spur on each other's strengths when in combination.

    I.e. even if we were extremely Yang, a bit of Yin only makes us stronger...and we're a girl, natively Yin aligned by biology even if our temperament is super Yang.
     
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    Voting closes at 12 so anyone who is still deliberating you have 3 hours to decide.
     
    Changing vote
    [X] Plan Reactor Core
    -[X] Devouring Vortex Body: Cycling concentrated Yin Qi, the Devouring Vortex Body makes use of the Yin qi's attraction of other qi to constantly draw in qi from around them while the cycling motion prevents it from making contact and being neutralized. Devouring Vortex Body is best used with qi intensive arts, due to the endless fuel it represents.
    -[X] Molten Sun Ascendance Art: Drawing in potent Yang Qi, the Molten Sun Ascendance serves best in contrast with strong Yin Qi to achieve a state of balance where both are made stronger for the relation.
    -[X] Perfecting Crucible Soul: Igniting Fire Qi, the Perfecting Crucible Soul renders the cultivator's soul as an alchemical crucible, transforming qi it consumes into other forms of qi through the touch of fire.
     
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