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Jen said:
Exalted's sorcerer, vile selfish things who broke down reality to improve the human's living condition, call your local Immaculate monks if you spot one of them sorcerer doing charity and helping the needy :mob:

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well I mean realistically the Sorcerer is doing creepy shit in a tower and extorting the peasant populace while offering token blessings, honestly, Exalted Sorcerers be pretty pulpy
 
Lioness said:
They're not mutually exclusive, behaviour that could be considered racketeering is an extremely slippery slope.
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That's true, yeah. I actually do have a generous Sorcerer character, despite my protestations re: pulpiness. A young Twilight who is burning with Essence Fever, going from place to place fixing problems via overwhelming magical interference. She also suggests people repay her for raising a freshwater spring from nowhere or sending her horrifying demons to slaughter a group of brigands by holding big feasts to celebrate her. She's under the impression she's being generous, only demanding a token reimbursement honoring her name rather than a truly comparable payment for her efforts.

The people she's helping often throw parties they cannot quite afford for fear of offending this divine-seeming figure in their midsts, and there's often some hardship in her wake, unless the community was already wealthy, at least until her works begin providing dividends. She genuinely doesn't see how they might be reluctant to do anything less than their best, or might interpret her suggestions, delivered with assurance and demand that comes from her noble upbringing, as appended with a soft or else. It tends to work out well, as far as such things go, but, as you say. The line is a blurry one, and she very likely slides back and forth across it without ever realizing.
 
Well, I got the Ex3 novel a while back, due to backing the Kickstarter, and on my train today I read it. It's... alright?

The basic plot is a newly Chosen Sidereal working with her circle to investigate these 'black flag' Exigents that are turning people into monsters and such. I think it might be connected to one of the stories in the novel anthology? It sounded familiar, anyway.

Anyway, the overall plot struck me as fairly, I don't know, linear? Investigate the scenes, touch on the various conflicts inherent in being a Sidereal, meet a few gods, have an enigmatic yet insightful encounter with a Maiden, uncover the bad guys and solve the plot. In some ways this was good, since a focused story has much to recommend it, but in other ways I got the impression that it could have really done with a bit more room to flesh out the different scenes.
 
Maugan Ra said:
The basic plot is a newly Chosen Sidereal working with her circle to investigate these 'black flag' Exigents that are turning people into monsters and such. I think it might be connected to one of the stories in the novel anthology? It sounded familiar, anyway.
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Matt Forbeck, one of the authors, wrote The Circle Will Be Broken for the anthology. Said story was also about Sidereals dealing with monster-Exigents. It was pretty terrible; I'm glad to hear the novel's better. Even if "alright" is a rather weak endorsement.

PS: Anyone care to tell me what they thought of that Wyld writeup?
 
Sanctaphrax said:
Matt Forbeck, one of the authors, wrote The Circle Will Be Broken for the anthology. Said story was also about Sidereals dealing with monster-Exigents.
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He also apparently insisted on this in the rewrite despite my notes that a behemoth would be a more in line with the enemy he was describing. I strongly suspect Dex Davican is why the reaction isn't people screaming and tearing their own eyes out.
 
Sanctaphrax said:
Matt Forbeck, one of the authors, wrote The Circle Will Be Broken for the anthology. Said story was also about Sidereals dealing with monster-Exigents. It was pretty terrible; I'm glad to hear the novel's better. Even if "alright" is a rather weak endorsement.

PS: Anyone care to tell me what they thought of that Wyld writeup?
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Well it didn't break canon in any noticeable way, which is already a step up from what I remember of the anthology version. Actually I suspect the desire to avoid doing that was half the reason the whole thing felt kind of formulaic - more than one supporting character seemed to pop up purely as a little nod to 'hey you know this person right'.

Still, it was an entertaining enough read during my train journey, so take that as you will.
 
Lioness said:
He also apparently insisted on this in the rewrite despite my notes that a behemoth would be a more in line with the enemy he was describing. I strongly suspect Dex Davican is why the reaction isn't people screaming and tearing their own eyes out.
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Oh, so that's who James Huggins is?

Makes sense. Attach an Exalted guy to the outside author, make sure they don't screw up the world.
 
A Song Staff, microphone-halberd-harp that let me murder people both from afar and up-closed ~


I still don't know what kind of Evocations to give it though.
 
Jen said:
A Song Staff, microphone-halberd-harp that let me murder people both from afar and up-closed ~


I still don't know what kind of Evocations to give it though.
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Essence 1: Special Withering-only Performance attack, gives an automatic success to the attack roll or some such.
Essence 2: AoE Hazard as you wail on the strings, people have to roll to avoid having their ears shredded/minds blown, Jack Black style (though perhaps toned down, mechanically an insta-kill hazard is probably unwise >_>)
Essence 3: Spend 4m to just flat out smash stuff at range as you slash the blade through the air, causing rad musical resonance to fuck up your target and let everyone else rock the fuck out.
Essence 4: Cause earthquakes and avalanches with the power of ROCK
Essence 5: Create musicals as your playing enchants the world around you, everyone rolls Performance for their combat abilities, and stunts that fulfill the spirit of ROCK get upgraded one level.

i only stand by the first two of these as not probably-gonna-ruin-a-game
 
Jen said:
I still don't know what kind of Evocations to give it though.
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Báthory Erzsébet: Fresh Blood Demoness (鮮血魔嬢バートリ・エルジェーベト, Senketsu MajōBātori Erujēbeto?​) is the Noble Phantasm utilized by Elizabeth Báthory while under the Berserker class, but she later utilizes it in the Lancer class while acting as the Servant of Hakuno Kishinami. It is a Noble Phantasm that summons the castle wherein she reigned during her lifetime and uses it as a stage to make herself prominent.
The summoned castle is the Prison Castle Čachtice, a demonic castle where hundreds of young girls were tortured to death, and by being soaked in the fresh blood of girls that she used to fill her bloodbath, a bathtub of blood, she maintains an enormous magical power and charm power.
It is the worst and nastiest Noble Phantasm she has attained after becoming a Servant and having dreamed of becoming the ultimate idol. Utilizing her singing talents to contest for the top position of idol on the planet with the castle that has been remolded into a giant amplifier, they bring about a tune that is certainly something that can be called hell on earth. Her singing of the songs slips away from musical intervals to a destructive degree, unfolding a hellish stage. Her lungs, having gained tremendous capacity from her dragon blood, allows her to amplify her voice through the Noble Phantasm enough to resound off of a section of the Tokyo Dome and turn it into a noise capable of making it crumble. The point is, it is Supersonic Blast Hell. Whether the song is terrible or its impact is amazing is for one to judge. Due to Saber's bad singing, at the very least, it must not be allowed to act in collaboration with Aestus Domus Aurea.[4]​[2]​[3]​
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:V
 
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I wish Fate for once would think with its brain instead of its lower bit when looking at historical and mythological figures. Seriously, idol Báthory who is an underaged girl in skimpy outfit....

Kaiya said:
Essence 1: Special Withering-only Performance attack, gives an automatic success to the attack roll or some such.
Essence 2: AoE Hazard as you wail on the strings, people have to roll to avoid having their ears shredded/minds blown, Jack Black style (though perhaps toned down, mechanically an insta-kill hazard is probably unwise >_>)
Essence 3: Spend 4m to just flat out smash stuff at range as you slash the blade through the air, causing rad musical resonance to fuck up your target and let everyone else rock the fuck out.
Essence 4: Cause earthquakes and avalanches with the power of ROCK
Essence 5: Create musicals as your playing enchants the world around you, everyone rolls Performance for their combat abilities, and stunts that fulfill the spirit of ROCK get upgraded one level.

i only stand by the first two of these as not probably-gonna-ruin-a-game
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Its current user is more into love song though, I wonder if Jazz is just as good at murdering compare to Rock? :thonk:
 
Jen said:
I wish Fate for once would think with its brain instead of its lower bit when looking at historical and mythological figures. Seriously, idol Báthory who is an underaged girl in skimpy outfit....



Its current user is more into love song though, I wonder if Jazz is just as good at murdering compare to Rock? :thonk:
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I sadly do not know enough about jazz as a style of music to write thematic Evocations for it >_> But I suspect it is, you just gonna find the right phrasing is all

Also, tragically, I'm pretty sure most of the Fate writers these days are literally pedophiles :(
 
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Jen said:
I wish Fate for once would think with its brain instead of its lower bit when looking at historical and mythological figures. Seriously, idol Báthory who is an underaged girl in skimpy outfit....
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Kaiya said:
I sadly do not know enough about jazz as a style of music to write thematic Evocations for it >_> But I suspect it is, you just gonna find the right phrasing is all

Also, tragically, I'm pretty sure most of the Fate writers these days are literally pedophiles :(
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Its less that the writers are pedophiles, and more that they're pandering to the key pedophile demographic among its otaku fanbase.
 
The thing is, Bathory is written as HATING what she becomes in Carmilla, and wants to become the exact opposite. An Idol, loved by the common people? About as far from the blood-stained Countess as she can get. Fate does actually do it's research.

I have no excuses for the outfits though.
 
Frakir's brother said:
The thing is, Bathory is written as HATING what she becomes in Carmilla, and wants to become the exact opposite. An Idol, loved by the common people? About as far from the blood-stained Countess as she can get. Fate does actually do it's research.

I have no excuses for the outfits though.
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It's still whitewashing the absolute fuck out of the actual Báthory Erzsébet. The whole 'bathing in blood' thing is utter bullshit made up long after her death, but the actual historical accounts, the ones backed by citations?

According to the testimonies, Báthory's initial victims were serving girls aged 10 to 14 years,[24] the daughters of local peasants, many of whom were lured to Čachtice by offers of well paid work as maids and servants in the castle. Later, she is said to have begun to kill daughters of the lesser gentry, who were sent to her gynaeceum by their parents to learn courtly etiquette. Abductions were said to have occurred as well.[25] The atrocities described most consistently included severe beatings, burning or mutilation of hands, biting the flesh off the faces, arms and other body parts, freezing or starving to death.[25] The use of needles was also mentioned by the collaborators in court. There were many suspected forms of torture carried out by Elizabeth.[26] According to the Budapest City Archives, the girls were burned with hot tongs and then placed in freezing cold water.[26] They were also covered in honey and live ants.[26]
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The stories of her serial murders and brutality are verified by the testimony of more than 300 witnesses and survivors as well as physical evidence and the presence of horribly mutilated dead, dying and imprisoned girls found at the time of her arrest.[7]
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Intriguingly enough, there's also this:

During the Long War (1593–1606), Elizabeth was charged with the defense of her husband's estates, which lay on the route to Vienna.[11] The threat was significant, for the village of Čachtice had previously been plundered by the Ottomans while Sárvár, located near the border that divided Royal Hungary and Ottoman-occupied Hungary, was in even greater danger. She was an educated woman who could read and write in four languages.[11] There were several instances where she intervened on behalf of destitute women, including a woman whose husband was captured by the Turks and a woman whose daughter was raped and impregnated.[17]
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... and this:

Before her first marriage, at the age of 13, Elizabeth allegedly gave birth to a child.[12] The child, said to have been fathered by a peasant boy, was supposedly given away to a local woman that was trusted by the Báthory family.[12] The woman was paid for her act, and the child was taken to Wallachia.[12]
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There's fodder for an interesting antagonist Servant version of Bathory, in the vein of Gilles de Rais, but hating what she did? Not a chance in Hell. This is somebody who started out preying on the weak and defenseless, and eventually escalated to becoming some sort of edgelord nightmare version of a Roald Dahl villain who ran a Boarding School of the Damned for her own amusement.

Start from there and build outwards.
 
GardenerBriareus said:
It's still whitewashing the absolute fuck out of the actual Báthory Erzsébet. The whole 'bathing in blood' thing is utter bullshit made up long after her death, but the actual historical accounts, the ones backed by citations?





Intriguingly enough, there's also this:



... and this:



There's fodder for an interesting antagonist Servant version of Bathory, in the vein of Gilles de Rais, but hating what she did? Not a chance in Hell. This is somebody who started out preying on the weak and defenseless, and eventually escalated to becoming some sort of edgelord nightmare version of a Roald Dahl villain who ran a Boarding School of the Damned for her own amusement.

Start from there and build outwards.
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I totally agree that Fate tends to whitewash historical villains, but in that specific case, 14ish Elizabeth Bathory is metagaming. She knows what she escalates to, she knows what happens to her, and what she is remembered as and is deliberately choosing to try to reinvent herself. Jeanne Alter, Jack the Ripper, Tamamo, those are all whitewashed.
 
Jen said:
A Song Staff, microphone-halberd-harp that let me murder people both from afar and up-closed ~


I still don't know what kind of Evocations to give it though.
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Hook it up to a Warstrider, so you can play it while hitting your foes. The Warstrider has an appropirate sized one ofc.
 
Fate-wise, at this point all I have time for is Unlimited Blade Works Abridged where Rin Tohsaka is an absolute lunatic and I love her. If I end up portraying a Heptagram student in the forseeable future that's where I'm going for their characterisation.
 
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Gamerlord said:
Isn't that the one which is made by a domestic abuser/rapist? Or am I thinking of another Fate Abridged Series?
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BlazingAzureCrow has had some serious accusations leveled against him, so yeah, if you watch any of the abridged series he's worked on, be sure to turn on adblock. Two woman have accused him of sexual assault, one of whom was apparently 15 at the time.
 
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