Remove ads

Faux/Rupere Saeculi [Stopped]

Reader mode
There's also the potential range advantage to consider. Archer's demonstrated that he's capable of firing from across town already, and if he's capable of one shotting everyone from that distance it's just overkill.
 
Alright, general consensus seems to be that ranged weapons should do less damage but be easier to hit with apparently, so I'll be refining ranged weaponry rules now. A weaponry post is in progress.

I'll be putting all the refined rules in one post eventually for ease of access.
 
Remove ads
Physical Combat Mechanics
  • Threadmarks
    • Physical Combat Mechanics
    Please round all decimals DOWN.
    ​

    Basic Combat Mechanics
    ​
    1. Combat Turn Phases:​
    1. Initiative - Initial Speeds.​
    2. Movement - Who hits? Do they hit?​
    3. Attack - How hard are they hitting? Defend is part of this.​
    4. Defend - Can you dodge? Can you block?​
    5. Damage - How much damage are you taking?​
    6. Restart - Back to Movement for next slowest, or reset to fastest.​
    2. Types of Combat:​
    1. Direct Combat - No Initiative Bonuses. Everyone starts off rolling AGI. This roll determines order for rest of battle.​
    2. Ambush - Attacker gains Initiative, unless Defender(s) beats their AGI with NOTICE, in which case it becomes Direct Combat.​
    3. Ranged - Attacker is not present, and Defender must roll NOTICE+AGI vs AGI+WEAPON to dodge shots. Can coexist with Ambush. To close distance, melee attackers must complete Movement Phases depending on distance. Short(200-400m) is one phase, continue according to distance (401-600m is in 2 Phases, 0-199 is that Phase, etc.)​
    4. Interception - Intercept during Attack Phase to prevent attacking between 2 players that turn.​

    3. Phase Expansion:​
    • Initiative​
    1. Everyone Involved Rolls AGI. If bystanders wish to leave, they must still roll, but can leave unless being targeted, upon which they must fight, or use the Disengage skill.​
    2. Whoever Rolls highest begins the Attack Phases, starting with Movement. This player is the Attacker for this turn.​
    • Movement​
    1. The Attacker rolls for attacking/movement target(s), rolling either AGI+((WEAPON/2)-1) to attack, or AGI to move. THE -1 ONLY APPLIES TO WEAPON SKILLS/BONUSES, AND WILL NOT AFFECT YOU IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE. Targets roll AGI to try to run. Success for Attacker results in moving closer/successfully attacking, moving to the Attack Phase. Failure ends the Turn. After moving forward to close a distance, the player is ready and gains +1 to next movement roll, and the turn ends.​
    • Attack​
    1. Now that the Attacker can hit the target(s), they decide if they want to go lethal or non-lethal, and target a body part. If lethal, roll for Damage, rolling STR+(WEAPON/2).​
    • Defend​
    1. Target(s) can DODGE or BLOCK. They can also just take the hit if they're confident in their defense, and COUNTER HIT.​
    2. DODGE is an AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Movement AGI+((WEAPON/2)-2) roll. The /2 ONLY applies to HEROES OR a to Notice when it's over +5.​
    3. BLOCK is a STR-2+(WEAPON/2) roll against the Attacker's previous STR+(WEAPON/2) roll.​
    4. Successfully dodging or blocking ends the Turn.​
    5. Interception can occur here. A nearby bystander can roll AGI to try to get there before the Attacker attacks, trying to beat the Attacker's Initiative roll. Success allows the bystander to roll STR+(WEAPON/2) to try and block the Attacker's attack. DOING THIS PLACES YOU IN THE BATTLE IN FRONT OF THE ATTACKER, MEANING THEY GET TO TRY TO ATTACK AGAIN NEXT TURN.​
    6. COUNTER HIT is when the target takes the hit, going directly to the Damage Phase, but rolls an Attacking Movement, and then an Attack roll if they succeed. Damage is applied before this occurs. This is essentially putting your turn in the middle of the Attacker's turn at the cost of taking damage.​
    7. If the Target fails the Defend Phase, they continue to the Damage Phase.​
    • Damage​
    1. Targets roll END against the Attacker's previous (STR+(WEAPON/2) and an additional +(1)-(BLOCK/2).​
    2. Difference determines damage depending on targeted body part. If Attacker fails, no damage is dealt and the Turn ends. 4 of a wound level equals the next wound level.​
    3. +1 is a minor wound, barely scraping the surface (scratch).​
    4. +2 is a light wound, still minor but more penetrating (cut).​
    5. +3 is a moderate wound, causing slight pain and slightly hindering the external body part (-1 to all rolls using that body part), but still at the surface (deep cut).​
    6. +4 is a deep wound, causing decent pain and hindering the external body part (-2), a severs non-essential body parts (fingers, toes, ears, etc).​
    7. +5 is a major wound, causing major pain and severly damaging an external body part (-3) or causing damage to nonessential internals (bones, joints, etc)​
    8. +6 is a crippling wound, crippling a limb (-4), or causing slight damage to essential internals/decent damage to nonessential internals, leading to damage over time equivalent to a minor wound every turn without healing.​
    9. +7 is a disabling wound, disabling the external body part completely (cannot be used), or causing major internal damage, leading to damage equivalent to a light wound every turn without healing.​
    10. +8 is a mortal wound, severing the external body part completely (will not recover without major magic), or damaging an internal organ, which will result in death soon(10 turns or 16 hours) without magical healing. The target takes a moderate wound every turn without quick healing.​
    11. +9 is a killing blow, destroying a body part or a vital organ immediately, leading to rapid death within a few(4) turns and damage equivalent to a crippling wound every turn.​
    12. Nonlethal attacks result in damage equivalent to 4 ranks below, minimum of a minor wound.​
    13. Battle Continuation makes wounds less severe by the difference in ranks. Rank A Battle Continuation reduces mortal wounds to disabling wounds, Rank B reduces crippling wounds to deep wounds, etc.​
    • Restart​
    1. Start at Movement for next highest Initiative.​
    Other modifiers can be applied when applicable at GM's discretion. When two NP's interact (Attack v. Defense, Attack v. Attack with Block), GM will compare ranks. Higher roll wins and provides bonuses, unless otherwise specified. Equal ranks means that both players roll 4d6, and higher net wins.

    Athletics - Applied with AGI
    Fight - Applied as Melee WEAPON Bonus
    Notice - Used for Reaction
    Physique - Applied with END
    Shoot - Used as Ranged Skill.
    Stealth - Applied with Dodge
    Weapon Mechanics
    Please round all decimals DOWN.​
    1. Weapon Types - Determines Weapon Bonus/Damage-Only Bonus and Other Bonuses:​
    1. Short Melee - Shortswords, Knives, Hatchets, etc.
    2. Long Melee - Longswords, Spears, Lances, etc.
    3. Large Melee - Greatswords, War Hammers, War Axes, etc.
    4. Slow Ranged - Handguns, Bows, Rifles, Throwing Knives, etc.
    5. Fast Ranged - Sub-Machineguns, Machine Pistols, Assault Rifles, etc.
    6. Spread Ranged- Shotguns, Explosive Guns, Light Machineguns, etc.
    1b. Example Weapon Bonuses:
    1. Short Melee: +2 Weapon Bonus.
    2. Long Melee: +1 Weapon Handling, +3 Weapon Damage.
    3. Large Melee: -2 Weapon Handling, +5 Weapon Damage.
    4. Slow Ranged: +5 Weapon Handling, +1 Weapon Damage.
    5. Fast Ranged: +3 Weapon Bonus.
    6. Spread Ranged: +2 Weapon Handling, +5 Weapon Damage, -1 Damage per Movement away from Center of Spread.
    2. Weapon Stats:
    1. Weapon Bonus - Effects WEAPON score. Equals NP Rank for Noble Phantasms.
    2. Weapon Handling Bonus - Effects WEAPON score ONLY for calculating Attacking Movement (Hit).
    3. Weapon Damage Bonus - Effects WEAPON score ONLY for calculating Damage.
    4. WEAPON = Weapon Skills + Weapon Bonuses + Other Modifiers.

    3. Weapon Use:
    • Attacking (Movement)
    1. Melee - AGI + ((WEAPON/2)-1) against AGI. THE -1 ONLY APPLIES TO WEAPON SKILLS/BONUSES, AND WILL NOT AFFECT YOU IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE.
    2. Ranged - AGI + (WEAPON-2) against AGI + (NOTICE/2).
    • Defend (Melee)
    1. Target(s) can DODGE or BLOCK. They can also just take the hit if they're confident in their defense.
    2. DODGE is an AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Movement AGI+((WEAPON/2)-2) roll. The /2 ONLY applies to HEROES OR a to Notice when it's over +5.
    3. BLOCK is a STR+(WEAPON/2) roll against the Attacker's previous STR+(WEAPON/2) roll.
    • Defend (Ranged)
    1. Target(s) can DEFLECT or DODGE.
    2. DODGE is AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Attacking Movement AGI+(WEAPON-2).
    3. DEFLECT is ((AGI+NOTICE)/2)+WEAPON-2 against the Attacker's Attacking Movement AGI+(WEAPON-2).
    • Attack Damage
    1. Ranged - General Shooting Skills + (WEAPON)
    2. Melee - (STR+(WEAPON/2))-(BLOCK/2)
    • Noble Phantasms
    1. Ranged Weapon Damage Bonus = NP Rank - 2.
    2. Melee Weapon Damage Bonus = NP Rank.
    Other modifiers can be applied when applicable at GM's discretion.
     
    Last edited:
  • Threadmarks
    • LegacySC said:
    Physical Combat Mechanics
    Please round all decimals DOWN.
    ​

    Basic Combat Mechanics
    ​
    1. Combat Turn Phases:​
    1. Initiative - Initial Speeds.​
    2. Movement - Who hits? Do they hit?​
    3. Attack - How hard are they hitting? Defend is part of this.​
    4. Defend - Can you dodge? Can you block?​
    5. Damage - How much damage are you taking?​
    6. Restart - Back to Movement for next slowest, or reset to fastest.​
    2. Types of Combat:​
    1. Direct Combat - No Initiative Bonuses. Everyone starts off rolling AGI. This roll determines order for rest of battle.​
    2. Ambush - Attacker gains Initiative, unless Defender(s) beats their AGI with NOTICE, in which case it becomes Direct Combat.​
    3. Ranged - Attacker is not present, and Defender must roll NOTICE+AGI vs AGI+WEAPON to dodge shots. Can coexist with Ambush. To close distance, melee attackers must complete Movement Phases depending on distance. Short(200-400m) is one phase, continue according to distance (401-600m is in 2 Phases, 0-199 is that Phase, etc.)​
    4. Interception - Intercept during Attack Phase to prevent attacking between 2 players that turn.​

    3. Phase Expansion:​
    • Initiative​
    1. Everyone Involved Rolls AGI. If bystanders wish to leave, they must still roll, but can leave unless being targeted, upon which they must fight, or use the Disengage skill.​
    2. Whoever Rolls highest begins the Attack Phases, starting with Movement. This player is the Attacker for this turn.​
    • Movement​
    1. The Attacker rolls for attacking/movement target(s), rolling either AGI+((WEAPON/2)-1) to attack, or AGI to move. THE -1 ONLY APPLIES TO WEAPON SKILLS/BONUSES, AND WILL NOT AFFECT YOU IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE. Targets roll AGI to try to run. Success for Attacker results in moving closer/successfully attacking, moving to the Attack Phase. Failure ends the Turn. After moving forward to close a distance, the player is ready and gains +1 to next movement roll, and the turn ends.​
    • Attack​
    1. Now that the Attacker can hit the target(s), they decide if they want to go lethal or non-lethal, and target a body part. If lethal, roll for Damage, rolling STR+(WEAPON/2).​
    • Defend​
    1. Target(s) can DODGE or BLOCK. They can also just take the hit if they're confident in their defense.​
    2. DODGE is an AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Movement AGI+((WEAPON/2)-2) roll. The /2 ONLY applies to HEROES OR a to Notice when it's over +5.​
    3. BLOCK is a STR+(WEAPON/2) roll against the Attacker's previous STR+(WEAPON/2) roll.​
    4. Successfully dodging or blocking ends the Turn.​
    5. Interception can occur here. A nearby bystander can roll AGI to try to get there before the Attacker attacks, trying to beat the Attacker's Initiative roll. Success allows the bystander to roll STR+(WEAPON/2) to try and block the Attacker's attack. DOING THIS PLACES YOU IN THE BATTLE IN FRONT OF THE ATTACKER, MEANING THEY GET TO TRY TO ATTACK AGAIN NEXT TURN.​
    6. If the Target fails the Defend Phase, they continue to the Damage Phase.​
    • Damage​
    1. Targets roll END against the Attacker's Attack(STR+(WEAPON/2))-BLOCK/2 roll.​
    2. Difference determines damage depending on targeted body part. If Attacker fails, no damage is dealt and the Turn ends. 4 of a wound level equals the next wound level.​
    3. +1 is a minor wound, barely scraping the surface (scratch).​
    4. +2 is a light wound, still minor but more penetrating (cut).​
    5. +3 is a moderate wound, causing slight pain and slightly hindering the external body part (-1 to all rolls using that body part), but still at the surface (deep cut).​
    6. +4 is a deep wound, causing decent pain and hindering the external body part (-2), a severs non-essential body parts (fingers, toes, ears, etc).​
    7. +5 is a major wound, causing major pain and severly damaging an external body part (-3) or causing damage to nonessential internals (bones, joints, etc)​
    8. +6 is a crippling wound, crippling a limb (-4), or causing slight damage to essential internals/decent damage to nonessential internals, leading to damage over time equivalent to a minor wound every turn without healing.​
    9. +7 is a disabling wound, disabling the external body part completely (cannot be used), or causing major internal damage, leading to damage equivalent to a light wound every turn without healing.​
    10. +8 is a mortal wound, severing the external body part completely (will not recover without major magic), or damaging an internal organ, which will result in death soon(10 turns or 16 hours) without magical healing. The target takes a moderate wound every turn without quick healing.​
    11. +9 is a killing blow, destroying a body part or a vital organ immediately, leading to rapid death within a few(4) turns and damage equivalent to a crippling wound every turn.​
    12. Nonlethal attacks result in damage equivalent to 4 ranks below, minimum of a minor wound.​
    13. Battle Continuation makes wounds less severe by the difference in ranks. Rank A Battle Continuation reduces mortal wounds to disabling wounds, Rank B reduces crippling wounds to deep wounds, etc.​
    • Restart​
    1. Start at Movement for next highest Initiative.​
    Other modifiers can be applied when applicable at GM's discretion. When two NP's interact (Attack v. Defense, Attack v. Attack with Block), GM will compare ranks. Higher roll wins and provides bonuses, unless otherwise specified. Equal ranks means that both players roll 4d6, and higher net wins.

    Athletics - Applied with AGI
    Fight - Applied as WEAPON Bonus
    Notice - Used for Reaction
    Physique - Applied with END
    Shoot - Used to determine Attack Movement for Ranged Weapons.
    Stealth - Applied with Dodge
    Weapon Mechanics
    Please round all decimals DOWN.​
    1. Weapon Types - Determines Weapon Bonus/Damage-Only Bonus and Other Bonuses:​
    1. Short Melee - Shortswords, Knives, Hatchets, etc.
    2. Long Melee - Longswords, Spears, Lances, etc.
    3. Large Melee - Greatswords, War Hammers, War Axes, etc.
    4. Slow Ranged - Handguns, Bows, Rifles, Throwing Knives, etc.
    5. Fast Ranged - Sub-Machineguns, Machine Pistols, Assault Rifles, etc.
    6. Spread Ranged- Shotguns, Explosive Guns, Light Machineguns, etc.
    1b. General Weapon Bonuses:
    1. Short Melee: +2 Weapon Bonus.
    2. Long Melee: +1 Weapon Handling, +3 Weapon Damage.
    3. Large Melee: -2 Weapon Handling, +5 Weapon Damage.
    4. Slow Ranged: +5 Weapon Handling, +1 Weapon Damage.
    5. Fast Ranged: +3 Weapon Bonus.
    6. Spread Ranged: +2 Weapon Handling, +5 Weapon Damage, -1 Damage per Movement away from Center of Spread.
    2. Weapon Stats:
    1. Weapon Bonus - Effects WEAPON score. Equals NP Rank for Noble Phantasms.
    2. Melee WEAPON - Attacker gains Initiative, unless Defender(s) beats their AGI with NOTICE, in which case it becomes Direct Combat.
    3. Weapon Handling Bonus - Effects WEAPON score ONLY for calculating Attacking Movement (Hit).
    4. Weapon Damage Bonus - Effects WEAPON score ONLY for calculating Damage.

    3. Weapon Use:
    • Attacking (Movement)
    1. Melee - AGI + ((WEAPON/2)-1) against AGI. THE -1 ONLY APPLIES TO WEAPON SKILLS/BONUSES, AND WILL NOT AFFECT YOU IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE.
    2. Ranged - AGI + (WEAPON-2) against AGI + (NOTICE/2).
    • Defend (Melee)
    1. Target(s) can DODGE or BLOCK. They can also just take the hit if they're confident in their defense.
    2. DODGE is an AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Movement AGI+((WEAPON/2)-2) roll. The /2 ONLY applies to HEROES OR a to Notice when it's over +5.
    3. BLOCK is a STR+(WEAPON/2) roll against the Attacker's previous STR+(WEAPON/2) roll.
    • Defend (Ranged)
    1. Target(s) can DEFLECT or DODGE.
    2. DODGE is AGI+(NOTICE/2) against the Attacker's Attacking Movement AGI+(WEAPON-2).
    3. DEFLECT is ((AGI+NOTICE)/2)+WEAPON-2 against the Attacker's Attacking Movement AGI+(WEAPON-2).
    • Attack Damage
    1. Ranged - General Shooting Skills + (WEAPON)
    2. Melee - (STR+(WEAPON/2))-(BLOCK/2)
    • Noble Phantasms
    1. Ranged Weapon Damage Bonus = NP Rank - 2.
    2. Melee Weapon Damage Bonus = NP Rank.
    Other modifiers can be applied when applicable at GM's discretion.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    The law has been laid down, Umbasa.
     
    NEWS: COUNTER HITTING has been added to the system. Please note the changes, and be aware of its existence and possible use.

    @Azrael and @D.D. Spectator, we've got the rules here now. Everyone who is currently engaged

    notmi said:
    I'm going to bed, but I'll post my initiative roll now, so people aren't waiting for me to know where they stand.

    Total: +8
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    D.D. Spectator said:
    Rolling

    Edit: +8
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Azrael said:
    Initiative: +9
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    @notmi and @D.D. Spectator, please roll 1d6 each to break the tie. This will not effect calculations, simply turn order. I should probably note this in the rules later.

    Saber is moving first after all the arrows are done.

    @D.D. Spectator, you may ignore the Attacking Movement phase as per your ability, and calculate damage directly using you old roll. Saber, please use your previous END roll to see whether you take damage or not.

    Meanwhile, the rest of your can ask me questions OOC or via PM about what you can do, but please abstain from posting IC unless you've cleared an action with me.
     
    notmi said:
    Rolling.

    Edit: The Dice Gods favor me tonight.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    D.D. Spectator said:
    I'm a rolling
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Berserker goes after Saber but before Archer after the damage phase finishes.

    @D.D. Spectator @Azrael
    I did the calculations for you guys from the old rolls. Barring the use of additionsl abilities/noble phantasms, Archer has a roll of
    D.D. Spectator said:
    Rolling

    4+3=7
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Roll: +3
    Ranged Damage: Skill + (Weapon Skill + Weapon (Type) Bonuses + Weapon Bonuses) = 0 + (0 + 1 + 6 - 2) = 5
    Total = 3 + 5 = +8
    Azrael said:
    Endurance: +13
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    Total: +13

    Both arrows bounce harmlessly off of Saber's skin. Please determine your next action @Azrael.
     
    LegacySC said:
    Berserker goes after Saber but before Archer after the damage phase finishes.

    @D.D. Spectator @Azrael
    I did the calculations for you guys from the old rolls. Barring the use of additionsl abilities/noble phantasms, Archer has a roll of

    Roll: +3
    Ranged Damage: Skill + (Weapon Skill + Weapon (Type) Bonuses + Weapon Bonuses) = 0 + (0 + 1 + 6 - 2) = 5
    Total = 3 + 5 = +8

    Total: +13

    Both arrows bounce harmlessly off of Saber's skin. Please determine your next action @Azrael.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...
    ...
    I request Archer be allowed to redo his sheet now that he knows that Weapon Skill is a thing.

    This is honestly just sad.
     
    So, let's see if I have this right...

    WEAPON = 9 + 2 = 11.
    Agility: 9

    So, put in the formula, we have...

    9 + ([11/2]-1)
    9 + 4 = 13.

    13 + 0 = 13 for Attack.
    +9 for Movement.
    Azrael threw 4 6-faced dice. Reason: Attack Total: 14
    6 6 2 2 5 5 1 1
    Azrael threw 4 6-faced dice. Reason: Agility Total: 13
    1 1 5 5 5 5 2 2
     
    Last edited:
    LegacySC said:
    Sure. Roll according to the Combat rules against @notmi, who csn roll AGI to try to avoid, unless he wants to stand still and take Saber head on, in which case you both move onto the Attack/Defend phase.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    Azrael said:
    So, let's see if I have this right...

    WEAPON = 9 + 2 = 11.
    Agility: 9

    So, put in the formula, we have...

    9 + ([11/2]-1)
    9 + 4 = 13.

    13 + 0 = 13 for Attack.
    +9 for Movement.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    I'll start with agility, then if I can't dodge the movement, I'll block.

    Agility: +9
    Does that mean we roll a tie breaker? I'll roll one just in case, and a block roll for good measure.
    Block: +15

    Edit: Actually, I'd rather just counter attack if I don't dodge. Is that OK?
    notmi threw 4 6-faced dice. Reason: Dodge. Total: 14
    2 2 2 2 6 6 4 4
    notmi threw 1 6-faced dice. Reason: Tie Total: 3
    3 3
    notmi threw 4 6-faced dice. Reason: Block Total: 9
    1 1 3 3 4 4 1 1
     
    Last edited:
    notmi said:
    But two NPs are already guaranteed. Spending points on NPs just seems like a waste, especially because I see having a bunch of them as cheap and unrealistic, especially with unknown heroes.
    Click to expand...
    Click to shrink...

    There is also only like a handful of examples of skills being past A+ and most of them are in Fate/Extra. Also I didn't say a lot of NPs just broken ones. I find that GMs are more likely to accept bullshit when the rest of your sheet isn't balls to the wall powerful.
     
    Reader mode
    You must login or register to reply here.
    Remove ads
    Back
    Top