[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See

Ok, we have two Masters, but Caster is PROBABLY NOT locked out given that the last Grail War had 15 freaking Servants and multiple repeats.

[X] Kiritsugu: Grab a Catalyst
-[X] Catalyst: Seal of Solomon (1 Resource)

Let Yuuno try for Caster Solomon, since he's the best we could find in the time, and there's no assurance that we'd be playing by the normal rules..
Kiritsugu can use Shirou for a catalyst.


Two scimitars, one black and one white, seemed to be partners with each other.
EMIYA

A drill-like sword whose pieces looked like they could rotate,
Gilgamesh. Dumb move.
and a very impressive-looking one-handed sword that you recognized as the weapon of the Saber in the maid outfit from the previous war were the next two weapons Shirou could project, abet for very short times.
Arthuria
It was the last sword, a big black sword as big as you were that he called 'Corpse of the Demon Lord' that surprised you the most.
Demise. Not good.
For example, he could project a spear that originally had anti-magic properties, but lacked them when projected.
Diarmuid.
Once those arrived, he finally accepted Taiga's offer again, and actually stood up to the combined might of Taiga, Kaleidostick Ruby, and Torashinai for two minutes at a time, reaching three with Shirou's lessons on Reinforcement to make sure his Storage Devices could actually stand up to Taiga's punishment.

Assuming that Yuuno wasn't taken completely by surprise, hasn't used most of his Prana stores recently, kept his Mystic Codes in good shape, and the enemy Servants didn't use their Noble Phantasms, you suspect that Yuuno might be able to hold off for a Servant for a minute, maybe two tops.

We got 2 Masters, a Servant-lite combatant in Taiga, a POTENTIAL Servant-lite(offense only) combatant in Shirou if he can make the Projection breakthrough. And Yuuno can tank on Servant scale for a full minute.
If we can gain Rin's cooperation, there's another Master + Servant-lite.

There's a shot for Heaven's Feel to solve Ilya's problems.
 
[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See

Ok, we have two Masters, but Caster is PROBABLY NOT locked out given that the last Grail War had 15 freaking Servants and multiple repeats.

[X] Kiritsugu: Grab a Catalyst
-[X] Catalyst: Seal of Solomon (1 Resource)

Let Yuuno try for Caster Solomon, since he's the best we could find in the time, and there's no assurance that we'd be playing by the normal rules..
Kiritsugu can use Shirou for a catalyst.



EMIYA


Gilgamesh. Dumb move.

Arthuria

Demise. Not good.

Diarmuid.


We got 2 Masters, a Servant-lite combatant in Taiga, a POTENTIAL Servant-lite(offense only) combatant in Shirou if he can make the Projection breakthrough. And Yuuno can tank on Servant scale for a full minute.
If we can gain Rin's cooperation, there's another Master + Servant-lite.

There's a shot for Heaven's Feel to solve Ilya's problems.
For a bit more variety, are there any somewhat decent catalysts we already have on hand or good compatibility summons available? Keep in mind that its technically possible to do a summon by compatibility with the compatibility being judged for someone other than the Master. Just use someone else as the catalyst to summon based on that person's compatibility.
 
For a bit more variety, are there any somewhat decent catalysts we already have on hand or good compatibility summons available? Keep in mind that its technically possible to do a summon by compatibility with the compatibility being judged for someone other than the Master. Just use someone else as the catalyst to summon based on that person's compatibility.
Compatibility wise...if we were to try for that I'd probably let Yuuno summon by affinity. Kiritsugu is not someone with nice affinities, but Yuuno's personality makes a good one.
 
Compatibility wise...if we were to try for that I'd probably let Yuuno summon by affinity. Kiritsugu is not someone with nice affinities, but Yuuno's personality makes a good one.
I agree, but that's not what I meant.

I meant that you could use a person who isn't a Master as the catalyst to let the Master summon based on the other person's compatibility.

That would be something like making Kiritsugu summon based on Shirou's compatibility by using Shirou as the catalyst.
 
I really like the idea of getting Solomon, but I don't want to risk getting screwed over if it turns out that we really can't get a Caster.
 
Tamamo qualifies for assassin, and as she used a curse in legend, should keep most if not all of her skill in magecraft.
 
[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
[X] Kiritsugu: Grab a Catalyst
-[X] Catalyst: Shard of the Sessho-seki Rock (Free)

trying to get Tamamo as assassin but i am fine if we get Solomon.
 
[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
[X] Kiritsugu: Grab a Catalyst
-[X] Catalyst: Shard of the Sessho-seki Rock (Free)

Get Caster on board.
 
Don't forget that there's a massive danger that Kiritsugu doesn't know about in Fuyuki right now that will almost certainly cause mass chaos if nobody sees it coming.

One of our current options let's us find out that Demise, the Legend of Zelda equivalent of Satan, is currently asleep in Fuyuki.

This guy is a demon god (explicitly stated to be a diety) who can create intelligent lifeforms and can fight to a draw against the second highest tier of diety in that franchise.

It took the power of the complete Triforce to kill him, and every other Legend of Zelda villain exists because of a curse he put on Link and Zelda as his last "fuck you!".

The Saber whom Kiritsugu summoned in the previous war is actually an alternate form that can be taken by the sword that Demise created for himself.

Let me repeat that. DEMISE'S SWORD IS POWERFUL ENOUGH TO FIGHT SERVANTS SOLO.
 
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So of the choices we have, which is the best counter for the equivalent of two separate devils?
Plus we might face another kaiju like Godzilla so we'll need someone to counter THAT as well. In short shot be wack and with so many Emiya's we'll have severe E Rank Luck.
 
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So of the choices we have, which is the best counter for the equivalent of two separate devils?
Plus we might face another kaiju like Godzilla so we'll need someone to counter THAT as well. In short shot be wack and with so many Emiya's we'll have severe E Rank Luck.
The Kaiju that we fought the first time was actually the mindless, partially awakened form of Demise. Hurting that form enough makes him go back into being sealed away (the big, black pillar that was left behind), but each time he partially wakes up, it becomes far more difficult to put him back to sleep.

Leave the kaiju form alone too long, or let someone else break his seal, and he wakes up completely.

In the boss fight against him when he's fully awake, he can create his own pocket dimension as a battleground (might just be treated as a reality marble), summon lightning strikes at will, and catch lightning with his sword and then fire it as a sword beam that can electrocute you. This is on top of having similar physical attributes to Nasuverse Hercules.

He doesn't do anything more exotic than that because he's so intrigued/impressed that a mere human is able to stand in his way without flinching that he wants a fair fight. Before he got sealed, every human just quivered in fear and ran to their goddess for help.

Skyward Sword has a way more intriguing plot than most Zelda games.
 
The Kaiju that we fought the first time was actually the mindless, partially awakened form of Demise. Hurting that form enough makes him go back into being sealed away (the big, black pillar that was left behind), but each time he partially wakes up, it becomes far more difficult to put him back to sleep.

Leave the kaiju form alone too long, or let someone else break his seal, and he wakes up completely.

In the boss fight against him when he's fully awake, he can create his own pocket dimension as a battleground (might just be treated as a reality marble), summon lightning strikes at will, and catch lightning with his sword and then fire it as a sword beam that can electrocute you. This is on top of having similar physical attributes to Nasuverse Hercules.

He doesn't do anything more exotic than that because he's so intrigued/impressed that a mere human is able to stand in his way without flinching that he wants a fair fight. Before he got sealed, every human just quivered in fear and ran to their goddess for help.

Skyward Sword has a way more intriguing plot than most Zelda games.
I was kinda talking about how GODZILLA was summoned last time, not demise who was summoned after giriham died. Don't tell me you all forgot about him?
Oh and the fact fourth wall breaking cesspool knows every Nguyen we'll do, but then again h e won't be able to counter us so that's mute point I hope​
 
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I was kinda talking about how GODZILLA was summoned last time, not demise who was summoned after giriham died. Don't tell me you all forgot about him?​
I haven't reread that part in a while, but wasn't it only that the newspapers THOUGHT it was Godzilla and we didn't see any reason to believe otherwise?

The kaiju form of Demise was definitely there, so Godzilla only could have been present if there was 2 kaiju.
 
You lost your composure when you realized that Godzilla had been summoned under the Berserker class. Everyone retreated.
A Homunculus had been running around the city for the past week, and was the one that summoned Godzilla.
The next day, Raiga had his Servant use 'Tactical Genius' to not only kill the Tohsaka master, but also the moderator. It was also used to start harassing Gilgamesh, before he lost patience and blasted Fuyuki to rubble with Ea to make sure that the 'Tactical Genius' wouldn't be able to escape.

Godzilla, Raiga's Archer, and the forty aspects of the traditional Assassin (which had escaped notice until then) were slain in the destruction.
Yep GODZILLA was definitely there. Though he was killed by Gilgamesh so.weight get lucky on that end........unless something like Destroyah or Gidora shows up.
 
You lost your composure when you realized that Godzilla had been summoned under the Berserker class. Everyone retreated.
A Homunculus had been running around the city for the past week, and was the one that summoned Godzilla.
The next day, Raiga had his Servant use 'Tactical Genius' to not only kill the Tohsaka master, but also the moderator. It was also used to start harassing Gilgamesh, before he lost patience and blasted Fuyuki to rubble with Ea to make sure that the 'Tactical Genius' wouldn't be able to escape.

Godzilla, Raiga's Archer, and the forty aspects of the traditional Assassin (which had escaped notice until then) were slain in the destruction.
Yep GODZILLA was definitely there. Though he was killed by Gilgamesh so.weight get lucky on that end........unless something like Destroyah or Gidora shows up.
Ok, well a regular kaiju honestly isn't too overly threatening by the standards of Servants. Bluebeard's Cthulhu kaiju was only even an issue due to its bullshit regeneration rate requiring it to be killed in a single hit.

If one of our summons is EMIYA, we can pretty easily deal with most kaiju.

I'm definitely torn though between chance at Solomon and info on Demise. Both are really good options.
 
And since I haven't voted
[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
--[X] Information: Einzbern
--[X] Information: Kotomine
Might as well get info on our hated enemies
 
And since I haven't voted
[X] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
--[X] Information: Einzbern
--[X] Information: Kotomine
Might as well get info on our hated enemies
Getting information on the city itself and on the demon god that Kiritsugu doesn't know is in stasis there still allows us to get information on one of the other parties.

We already know that the Einzberns are allied with Precia Testarossa and hate our guts.
 
Vote tally:
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[X] Topher Joiner: Accept
No. of votes: 2
Frakir's brother, wingstrike96

[x] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
No. of votes: 10
reborn214, adreamofcold, justinkal, will408914, veekie, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial, TheNamelessHero, Usernames, Wing00Raiser
[X] Kiritsugu: Grab a Catalyst
No. of votes: 7
Frakir's brother, wingstrike96, veekie, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial, TheNamelessHero, Usernames

-[X] Catalyst: Shard of the Sessho-seki Rock (Free)
No. of votes: 3
Frakir's brother, TheNamelessHero, Usernames

-[X] Catalyst: Seal of Solomon (1 Resource)
No. of votes: 4
wingstrike96, veekie, SometimesMaybe, Bozwevial
[x] Kiritsugu: Abandon the Catalysts
No. of votes: 4
reborn214, adreamofcold, justinkal, will408914

-[x] New Plan: The Living Sword's Last Gift (Choose 1)
No. of votes: 4
reborn214, adreamofcold, justinkal, will408914

--[x] Information: Kotomine
No. of votes: 4
reborn214, justinkal, will408914, Wing00Raiser

--[x] Information: Deadpool
No. of votes: 1
adreamofcold

--[X] Information: Einzbern
No. of votes: 1
Wing00Raiser

I'm going to leave this open for a bit longer, but at current time, you are going to be thinking about an alliance with the Dead Apostle Ancestor (without refusing it outright), and going to grab the Seal of Solomon (at the cost of 1 Resource).
 
[x] Topher Joiner: Wait and See
[x] Kiritsugu: Abandon the Catalysts
-[x] New Plan: The Living Sword's Last Gift (Choose 1)
--[x] Information: Kotomine
 
On another note, since Rin has to be a master because she's a Toshaka, would she summon EMIYA because of her necklace? Or maybe Archer!Kuro because of Kaleido Ruby?
 
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