Advance Australia Fair [Old World of Darkness]
@tenofshields
Do note that we also know from our Parents backstory that Ravenna happend.
And well, something else to note here is that the regular explanation for the TU acting in terms of danger is kind of wrong, which might be because of it being a different one, or because he has been feed some fertiliser in regards to RD inviting EDEs over. Otoh surprisingly the other names where periode apopriate there so that is certainly valid information.
Not that the Verbana, the Hermetics, the Choristers, and the Nephandi would need a excuse to call down EDEs down to do stuff.
And interestingly the word Consensus which is offically part of the Purple Paradigma welcoming package was not used, most likely because he might not believe in it.
Do note that we also know from our Parents backstory that Ravenna happend.
And well, something else to note here is that the regular explanation for the TU acting in terms of danger is kind of wrong, which might be because of it being a different one, or because he has been feed some fertiliser in regards to RD inviting EDEs over. Otoh surprisingly the other names where periode apopriate there so that is certainly valid information.
Not that the Verbana, the Hermetics, the Choristers, and the Nephandi would need a excuse to call down EDEs down to do stuff.
And interestingly the word Consensus which is offically part of the Purple Paradigma welcoming package was not used, most likely because he might not believe in it.
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Revlid
blob of bugs
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- England
Bear in mind that per canon, the Virtual Adepts left the Union not just because the NWO outed, chemically castrated and then murdered Alan Turing (philosophy/culture/media-majors being notoriously homophobic, one supposes), but also because the Union was going to release the Internet to the public, shock horror. I'm not kidding, they wanted to keep their special digital playground all to themselves.For reference: in the White Wolf line the VA defect post-WWII after Turing (who was apparently an Adept) got publicly outed and then assassinated by the NWO. And then the internet takes off...without them. Somehow. And is in reality a major military thing (DARPAnet and shit). Zerban's moved it up a fair bit which honestly makes a fair bit more sense.
If the VA defected after the end of the Cold War it'd be after the internet was already established and all the balls were rolling. Iirc the 'net really came into its own in like...'95? As a consumer thing I mean.
But idk just commenting on it since it's sorta interesting. For one it means that the Union lost the VA really recently and are probably still salty as fuck about it. For another it makes the grievance less "they wouldn't let us shove everyone into Sword Art Online" and more "they spat on the idea of peace, went full pan-political megacunt and started carrying out xenocide as a matter of policy".
Which has some more merit.
So yes, changes to the CHIM-seekers are very welcome.
TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
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Honestly he might not be talking about it because he doesn't know about it, or because he doesn't think it's important most likely. Like the lecture was a broad strokes overview of the secret history of the world. All the important highlights: Mistridge, founding of the Order, founding of the Trads, last best hope of the Trads, the Union losing the Electrodyne Engineers and the Virtual Adeps. If the idea of Consensual Reality was a major thing guiding the Traditions he'd probably have talked about it. If it was even a persistent undercurrent he would've talked about it too I think.
Instead at the beginning he just sorta uses the religion analogy to describe everyone doing their own thing. And then the Union coming in with the equivalent of the jealous God.
That doesn't necessarily mean that it's not a thing. Just that nobody's listening to the Hermetics who say it's a thing.
Also they had a weird memory virus that made them all forget they were members of the Union!
Which is just...the laziest retcon.
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"Nice place. Next to Germany, right? Sound of Music? Yodelling?"
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Can you give a more full explanation for this? I heard about it in passing in one of the books, but it didn't make much sense and you seem like you understand it.
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- Denmark
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oh boy this will be fun
[X] Revlid
TenfoldShields
Lounging on a Hoard of Words
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Oh you just had to ask didn't you you motherfucker, and me without my books.
Bbbeessssst I remember it (it was from the Virtual Adept book that came out like late 90's, early 2000's I think) it was basically...exactly what it sounds like. The VA tried to defect and the Union just laced the "Turing Virus" into their Mountain Dew and Doritos and USB-port supported fleshlights and which ate their memories and, like, nobody on the Trads commented on this apparently.
Like afaik the origins of the VA were originally shrouded in myth and shadow and shit and then it was like "we're actually UNION DEFECTORS" "from when?" "Like...mid 1940's".
Also something to consider that I just sorta realized:
Generally my impression is that the "real world" (y'know our lame ones without sexy killer cyborgs or murderwolves) maps over the secret one to a degree. The American branch of the Union is surging to the forefront and nervously eying the Chinese Symposiums who've gone hard cyberpunk. Saudi branch of the Union is channeling all the Prime Energy through their access to oil deposits. And so on.
...Which means that in this scenario the Australian Symposia are the Union's red-headed stepchild. They're a significant part of the developed world but they don't exactly get the kind of respect that America commands or that European branches (some of the oldest around) would inherit. Fuck Australia was originally a penal colony that saw a lot of use in Victorian times and prior to that, when the Order of Reason was big in England. But then the Union moved their prisons offworld to places like MECHA. So, y'know.
. They didn't even have that.The overwhelming majority of the population lives in a handful of coastal enclaves, Cipher admits that the Outback is chock-full of crazy monster shit so we can assume that those enclaves are probably under regular siege. Their internet's sorta shit (rip VA's).
No wonder they're blowing a messy load over having Lakshmi in the Enforcers. She's the caliber of asset they couldn't swing in most other circumstances. Like a superhuman demigod monsterslayer is upper echelon "it took a team of brilliant Progenitors and a budget to make a Syndic blush" type shit.
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- Canadia
[X] Meghanada Dane
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[X] Megahanda Dane
For a second I thought you were for Meg to literally give his name as "Revlid"
Revlid
blob of bugs
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- England
Conversely:
"The blood of gods runs through my veins!"
"That's nice. Would you like it to stay there?"
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- St. Petersburg
So... if Space Cthulhu decided to pay Earth a visit, he'd be better off doing it in Australia, because no one gives a damn about the place?
I wonder how big of a problem we are to them compared to what they normally have to deal with. How deep does the compartmentalization go, anyway? How many people would need to be made aware that we are out there?
By the way, the stuff he talked about, mages weakening the fabric of reality with their spells... does it extend to us? Is our mere existence an anathema to some branches of the Union? I mean, there is a degree of difference between 'that thing is potentially dangerous' and 'it contaminates the world around it just by breathing'.
[X] Meghanada Dane.
Yeah, so we are an alien. We are strange-looking, loopy and have weird dietary habits.
...sounds like Meg alright.
There is Indrajit in there somewhere too I guess, but we've been a Dane for 18 years and a crazy awesome God-slayer for about 5 minutes. Give it time.
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Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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[X] Either the protagonist or the antagonist, haven't figured it out yet.
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Why not both? I mean - we're literally a human-eating (can't say cannibal because cannibals eat their own species) demon from beyond local space-time. There's probably a fucking prophecy about how we'll bring bring the world into a new age of darkness (World of Darker Darkness). We're fighting against our popular demigod sister, who's working for a secret conspiracy founded to protect humanity from the supernatural, while we, by contrast, are an angry loner, working with people who include Psycho Mantis and a bald mad scientist. I could totally see this being written from Lakshmi perspective as a young adult novel - Lakshmi's even has the monkey-boy as the token supernatural male love interest.
Of course, then it turns out that the secret conspiracy may have been experimenting on the brother, so the demigod sister turns her back on both sides and starts going for a third option.
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Ridiculously Average Guy
I'm you, but stronger
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Point! Corrected.