Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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So besides repairing damage done after battle, dealing with evil fungus, and beastmen poking their noses, around, I wonder how Magnus and family are dealing running Ostland with the Patriarch and Matriarch gone, being such constants in their lives and Ostland politics for decades at this point.

I think rebuilding should be going alright, since we stockpiled lots of supplies in general in case of a siege, which is likely going towards rebuilding/war with fungus and beastmen.

Also curious how they are handling prisoners, especially the large number of dark elves in general, since I imagine that must be a logistical headache in of itself, along with dealing with political balancing of allied elves and dwarfs in province.

I can't even imagine how freaking guilty Urgdug must be feeling, since goodness knows he always feels terrible when Freddy is in a bind and he isn't there to back up his brother, to say nothing of nat. I imagine he is dealing with said emotions with a great deal of eating and fighting, not even trying to think about them not returning and saying with certainity that they will.

Freddy and Nat got has likely thrown whole family and province into emotional turmoil, to say nothing of runefang being missing as GM mentioned.
 
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Massgamer said:
Urgdug must be feeling, since goodness knows he always feels terrible when Freddy is in a bind and he isn't there to back up his brother, to say nothing of nat. I imagine he is dealing with said emotions with a great deal of eating and fighting, not even trying to think about them not returning and saying with certainity that they will.
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Somebody has to stay back, flex, and growl at the more ambitious powers in Ostland to not to jump the gun while Magnus is handling the Ix.
 
MoonSerpent said:
Somebody has to stay back, flex, and growl at the more ambitious powers in Ostland to not to jump the gun while Magnus is handling the Ix.
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Obviously we love him and think he is big cute boulder, but I imagine most of the time most folk are under no illusion about just how damn intimidating and scary Urgdug is, even for an ogre.

Anyone who attempts to go against our family would naturally have to go through him, and by proxy all ogres in Ostland since Urgdug commands all their respect and would follow him straight into hell if he asked.

Few people are that stupid and suicidal.
 
I really do not understand why so many people want to rush Natasha extraction. It's a short term reward for long term disadvantage.
From strategic point of view it is wiser to wait on that gun since the follow up is what we are betting on.
Not to say to abandon her, but certanly we can put some trust in Natasha pulling throu. no need to cuddle her like that.
 
watcheye456 said:
I really do not understand why so many people want to rush Natasha extraction. It's a short term reward for long term disadvantage.
From strategic point of view it is wiser to wait on that gun since the follow up is what we are betting on.
Not to say to abandon her, but certanly we can put some trust in Natasha pulling throu. no need to cuddle her like that.
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I'm voting early extraction for the following reasons:

1) Consistent blows do a better job destabilizing Voidreapers legitimacy than singular strikes.
2) It frees up Natasha and company to rest up and prepare for the auction, which is looking like the climactic fight of the arc.
3)It gives time for Druchii plots and their rumor mill to spread discontent over Voidreaper's rule.
 
Valerian said:
1) Consistent blows do a better job destabilizing Voidreapers legitimacy than singular strikes.
2) It frees up Natasha and company to rest up and prepare for the auction, which is looking like the climactic fight of the arc.
3)It gives time for Druchii plots and their rumor mill to spread discontent over Voidreaper's rule.
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Well, I vote for middle for flollowing:
1) Regular blows have the effect of culminating, of instability growing before it can stabelize. In the long run consistent troble do even better job.
2) Natasha nad company would still be 'deployed' and with extra time they may find a way to increase the effect still. like they did with beheadment of Deep clans.
3) pretty much the same, really. Rumor mill will be extra cruel if provided regular fuel.
4)Also it shows our Comitment if anyone ever doubted that.
 
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watcheye456 said:
Well, I vote for middle for flollowing:
1) Regular blows have the effect of culminating, of instability growing before it can stabelize. In the long run consistent troble do even better job.
2) Natasha nad company would still be 'deployed' and with extra time they may find a way to increase the effect still. like they did with beheadment of Deep clans.
3) pretty much the same, really. Rumor mill will be extra cruel if provided regular fuel.
4)Also it shows our Comitment if anyone ever doubted that.
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Eh, middle is the attack happening almost simultaneously with Hultressa's attack, so its not a regular blow happening every few days. Its a bomb going off in one spot, emergency services gets to the scene, followed by another bomb going off across the city.

The rumor mill won't have as much time to propagate because of the timing this way.
 
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Valerian said:
The rumor mill won't have as much time to propagate because if the timing this way.
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Do keep in mind that there recently was an attack on the Central Tor which resultted in dead of all on site defenders.
While it would be prefereable if our friend went higher in success this is laready souring the minor victory they achived and fueling the mill with disconted for goverment security. Addmitidyly not something Druchi usually care all that much on most days but still shows them their leader has blind-spots.
So even if we do our play at once our vampire friend may keep the presure for us in the mean time and likely after the big boom. And bigger the boom, bigger the chaos to prown in. In the end it's all up to dice, but I'm adamant for meiddle ground having most advantages.
Also going big at once has the chance of other opportunistic factions taking a go, like for example the captive Chaos worshipers? not very likely but all the distraction can cumlminate in something unforseen.
 
Also take in acount that before they make their escape with hultressa and gwendolyn with how many allies natasha and roland made alomg the way they will also need to steal suplies, rations and maybe a boat or a ship if they have a big group including oskana and the pegasus.

And then make a journey througth all of nosca fight trought their jouney then arrive at kislev, finally send a letter to ostland, they will still fight a civil war against the boghka and the skaven, and go back home to raise more defenses and choking points for the beastmen.

At least magnus, his family and urgdug are rebuilding ostland, reforming the armies, controling the mercenaries and exploring and burning the fungus in the middle mountains.

And inquire if the forces of the south will need reinforcements against the greenskin WAAAGH!!
to send soldiers and more suplies.
 
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I got a question, do Ogres in Ostoland actually plan their nutriton, specially ohre sized bulk up diets? Because if they just normally eat but in ogre size we can make our ogre population even more scary with a simple change.
 
MrRobot said:
I got a question, do Ogres in Ostoland actually plan their nutriton, specially ohre sized bulk up diets? Because if they just normally eat but in ogre size we can make our ogre population even more scary with a simple change.
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How well understood is nutritional science for anyone at this point of time? More meat is better, sure, but would there be much beyond that? And with how ogres can literally eat rocks, how applicable is a well-planned human diet to someone that can get nutrients from a handful of gravel?
 
WestOrEast said:
How well understood is nutritional science for anyone at this point of time? More meat is better, sure, but would there be much beyond that? And with how ogres can literally eat rocks, how applicable is a well-planned human diet to someone that can get nutrients from a handful of gravel?
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By trial and error for the most par as how well nutrition is understood i need you to keep in mind while the empire is mostly stuck on some equivalent to early renaissance, people are not dumb.

Certain diets to bulk up both in fat or in muscle would be generally knows specially by halflings that quite literally make cooking their religion.
My question is if a study to create diets plans for ogres specific is a thing that actively made.

The fact ogres can eat rocks don't mean they get may nutrients from it only that they digest rocks.
 
WestOrEast said:
How well understood is nutritional science for anyone at this point of time? More meat is better, sure, but would there be much beyond that? And with how ogres can literally eat rocks, how applicable is a well-planned human diet to someone that can get nutrients from a handful of gravel?
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MrRobot said:
By trial and error for the most par as how well nutrition is understood i need you to keep in mind while the empire is mostly stuck on some equivalent to early renaissance, people are not dumb.

Certain diets to bulk up both in fat or in muscle would be generally knows specially by halflings that quite literally make cooking their religion.
My question is if a study to create diets plans for ogres specific is a thing that actively made.

The fact ogres can eat rocks don't mean they get may nutrients from it only that they digest rocks.
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OK very briefly: Because there is a Leonardo da Vinci expy in this setting called Leonardo da Miragliano it means that vegetarianism as we know it today also exists among the followers of Myrmidia because modern day vegetarianism has it's roots in how people look at Civilization and what it means to be civilized. How much that will show up in the quest itself depends on @torroar and how he wrote that into the setting.

More ascetic forms of vegetarianism are also probably practiced by members of Urlican and Sigmarite priesthoods because those are the Catholic and Protestant expy faiths in Warhammer Fantasy. Some Urlican priests would be vegetarian so that they would demonstrate their self-sufficiency of being able to live of the land in even the harshest of winters when animals are too gaunt to be worth hunting, while some Sigmarite priests on the other hand would find the eating of meat to be too much of a luxury to partake in.

As for diets? Esmeralda renders that question moot for Ostland because of the whole Goddess of Cooking thing and the rest of the Empire actually has problems with getting good diets and the Chaos Cults even exploit this to feed people tainted meat though long pork/human flesh is usually only used by Tzeentchian Cults to taint people trough a Change in their diet.
 
Azhtek-JM said:
Also take in acount that before they make their escape with hultressa and gwendolyn with how many allies natasha and roland made alomg the way they will also need to steal suplies, rations and maybe a boat or a ship if they have a big group including oskana and the pegasus.

And then make a journey througth all of nosca fight trought their jouney then arrive at kislev, finally send a letter to ostland, they will still fight a civil war against the boghka and the skaven, and go back home to raise more defenses and choking points for the beastmen.

At least magnus, his family and urgdug are rebuilding ostland, reforming the armies, controling the mercenaries and exploring and burning the fungus in the middle mountains.

And inquire if the forces of the south will need reinforcements against the greenskin WAAAGH!!
to send soldiers and more suplies.
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I think there is a good chance that once we are off the Ark we will be able to be picked up by the Dwarf navy. Our eonir allies can track our position and Barak Varr is eager to redeem themselves for their tardiness.
 
Niksol said:
I think there is a good chance that once we are off the Ark we will be able to be picked up by the Dwarf navy. Our eonir allies can track our position and Barak Varr is eager to redeem themselves for their tardiness.
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Unlikely.

Once Freddy gets to Norsca, he will be going through the land route from somewhere on Norsca's northern coast, travelling overland through a cold frozen deathland that serves as a border between Norsca and Kislev, then into Kislev. This will take months, as the current travelling group are optimistically, Jacque's girls, Jacque, Roland, Eldyra, Hultressa, Gwendolyn, Natasha, Freddy, The Handmaiden of the everqueen, the Asrai, and any survivors from the slave revolt we intend to use as a disraction, plus Maghda, and Johanna. That's 11 to maybe 50, or a few hundred people we will be tavelling with into Norsca then to Kislev with. Without prior preperation for the environment.

Even if Freddy could be tracked, he cannot be picked up by the Barak Varr remnants any time soon after leaving the Black Ark he is currently on, then eventually no sea access until Kislev.
 
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Marlin said:
Unlikely.

Once Freddy gets to Norsca, he will be going through the land route from somewhere on Norsca's northern coast, travelling overland through a cold frozen deathland that serves as a border between Norsca and Kislev, then into Kislev. This will take months, as the current travelling group are optimistically, Jacque's girls, Jacque, Roland, Eldyra, Hultressa, Gwendolyn, Natasha, Freddy, The Handmaiden of the everqueen, the Asrai, and any survivors from the slave revolt we intend to use as a disraction, plus Maghda, and Johanna. That's 11 to maybe 50, or a few hundred people we will be tavelling with into Norsca then to Kislev with. Without prior preperation for the environment.

Even if Freddy could be tracked, he cannot be picked up by the Barak Varr remnants any time soon after leaving the Black Ark he is currently on, then eventually no sea access until Kislev.
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This just shows that we should try to steal a ship, because not only is traveling through inland Norsca extremely dangerous, it comes with the increased risk of Chaos corruption. If we can't steal a ship, it would be far safer to travel along the coast line until we reach Kislev.
 
EyeOfSauron said:
This just shows that we should try to steal a ship, because not only is traveling through inland Norsca extremely dangerous, it comes with the increased risk of Chaos corruption. If we can't steal a ship, it would be far safer to travel along the coast line until we reach Kislev.
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Going off what was said earlier stealing a ship is a non starter. Something that would be nice but not something we can rely on. Hultressa went into great detail about how what little of the reaver ships remain, (remember the entire attendant fleet of the two arks attacked Nordland). So what little remains is in the hands of die-hard loyalists to the new regime, because she knows that they are the best chance for anyone looking to leg it or undermine here. So it's one of those plan for the worst situations, we can't rely on getting a ship simply because any opportunity for it would happen from the chaos of our initial plans going well. A ship is our best option but also the biggest pie in the sky option. If we are committed to hugging the coast it wouldn't be impossible for even our bare minimum escape group (as in 8-12) to take on a small crew of Norscan's and steal their ship.
 
hugo239111 said:
Going off what was said earlier stealing a ship is a non starter. Something that would be nice but not something we can rely on. Hultressa went into great detail about how what little of the reaver ships remain, (remember the entire attendant fleet of the two arks attacked Nordland). So what little remains is in the hands of die-hard loyalists to the new regime, because she knows that they are the best chance for anyone looking to leg it or undermine here. So it's one of those plan for the worst situations, we can't rely on getting a ship simply because any opportunity for it would happen from the chaos of our initial plans going well. A ship is our best option but also the biggest pie in the sky option. If we are committed to hugging the coast it wouldn't be impossible for even our bare minimum escape group (as in 8-12) to take on a small crew of Norscan's and steal their ship.
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The Ark's docks are full of partially built hulls that were commissioned to rebuild the fleet. No clue if they will be seaworthy in time for the escape attempt though.
 
[X] Early Aquafarm Destruction Attempt

Main reasons for my vote are Hultressa recommending this, and her being in a much strong position than Natasha: equal risks in this case would actually mean that things are more dangerous for her.
 
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