Esquestria: The House of the Sun - A pony cultist experience

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-This is an MLP quest. And more importantly, none of us are gratuitously cruel. So good things will happen on this quest, and I hope that enough good things have already happened to prove that.
-This is also a horror quest, so bad things will happen. Bad things might happen to good characters if you are not able to protect them, and you most certainly will not be able to intervene if you lack the tools to do so.
-And finally, this is a quest in which you jostle with powers greater than yourself, with all that it entails.

Please, do keep those things in mind as you go forward. But ultimately, this is also a quest in which it is hoped we all have fun! So if any of the above points is not exactly your cup of tea, or somehow make the experience as a whole "not worth it", then this quest might not be for you. Which is fine! Individual tastes are a thing, so don't think any more about it if you don't want to read anymore. And regardless, I hope you have a lovely day!

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If those are fine for you or Regrettable is even more triggering, then GREAT! More power to you. But you aren't a bad or selfish person for picking the option that keeps the characters you've emotionally connected with safe. [REDACTED for spoiler warning]

This is a high intensity quest that doesn't hold back when it comes to horror and negative consequences. Take care of yourself.
(Quote slightly edited to avoid spoilers)
 
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In short, the idea is to take advantage of our GOOD FRIEND who WE'RE TEACHING ABOUT THE OCCULT and IS A LIBRARIAN to... well, FIND BETTER/MORE BOOKS

what a shocking idea, right?

but seriously, I'm a bit embarassed It took me 2 days to think of it :V
I mean, to be fair, for a long time we were only "acquaintances", and then we gave her Homework, from which she almost devolved into madness.

We weren't really able to ask for help until now.

Also, I think you overrode your vote with those X's.

Edit: Moth'd
 
---[X] In Ponyville. (servant action)
----[x] ask Twilight for help in finding good books. That's her job after all, isn't it? (preference: Heart lvl2+, expedition sites, Edge lvl2+, in THAT order, if it matters). If it improves the action offer a tip/donation to the library to improve the results.
Oh, wow - I hate this subvote with the fire of a thousand suns.

I can live with asking Twilight to help us find good books. It is a bit weird, because we are asking her to help our servants (we don't have time to look for books ourselves after all), or perhaps asking our servants to help Twilight, depending on how you see it. It is also a bit risky. Twilight might say something to them that she shouldn't - she is not in her right mind, after all. Looking for books on the occult without our supervision might also end up hurting Twilight's state-of-mind for the same reason. I don't think any of the risks above are especially likely to be realized - but it is worth keeping them in mind, and being clear that this approach is not merely getting a better book search for free at no cost.



That "preference", though. I'm against any "preference" on a book search because you can't take a random action and write-in a preference for a particular result; that defeats the very purpose of the action being random! I'm against a "preference" of this sort being applied to a Servant action, since the servants aren't in the know about Lore. And I'm against this preference in particular, because I don't think finding a HEART book of all things is an emergency or something we need to rush for, since Heart/Forge books are just about the easiest to search for (no need to travel!) and we have very few occasions to roll against that lore. Just... everything. Why?
 
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sorry for double post, but I also wanted to mention something else:

Even if we find a lvl 4 artifacts with a crit or something.. we're likely not going to be able to afford it.
So? It is not like artifacts disappear if they are not bought immediately. If it is an useful artifact then we save money and buy it and if it isn't we don't.


I don't think it is a good idea to have Twilight search for books at this point either. At least wait until she is in a better mental state.

Edit: In regards to looking for a level 3 SH artifact, remember that if we are doing it through merchants it is actually more expensive than if searching for it ourselves, so it would cost more than 200 bits.
 
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Twilight might say something to them that she shouldn't - she is not in her right mind, after all.

actions usually happen in the most optimal order. So I think the search would happen after the (hopefully stabilizing) lesson.
Looking for books on the occult without our supervision might also end up hurting Twilight's state-of-mind for the same reason. I don't think any of the risks above are especially likely to be realized - but it is worth keeping them in mind, and being clear that this approach is not merely getting a better book search for free at no cost.

They're not REALLY occult books though. THey're books with occult scraps that we actually have problems finding. In my mind we're basically asking Twilight to find us worthy books about a few topics we THINK would be somewhat related to the lores (example: music books for heart, legends for expedition sites).

None of the books we saw yet were ACTUALLY dangerous books, after all.
That "preference", though. I'm against any "preference" on a book search because you can't take a random action and write-in a preference for a particular result; that defeats the very purpose of the action being random! I'm against a "preference" of this sort being applied to a Servant action, since the servants aren't in the know about Lore. And I'm against this preference in particular, because I don't think finding a HEART book of all things is an emergency or something we need to rush for, since Heart/Forge books are just about the easiest to search for (no need to travel!) and we have very few occasions to roll against that lore. Just... everything. Why?

I can remove it if it offends you that much. My idea was that it could be a reasonable thing Twilight could do, to direct the search towards more specific books, as... well, she's the librarian.

It might be a bit too much of using narrative to modify the mechanics maybe, kinda like using a public library to get lore books without paying.


EDIT: (I mean "remove the preference. not the whole write-in. Just to be clear)
 
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actions usually happen in the most optimal order. So I think the search would happen after the (hopefully stabilizing) lesson.
Fair point. That said, it is not at all clear if one lesson would be enough.

They're not REALLY occult books though. THey're books with occult scraps that we actually have problems finding. In my mind we're basically asking Twilight to find us worthy books about a few topics we THINK would be somewhat related to the lores (example: music books for heart, legends for expedition sites).

None of the books we saw yet were ACTUALLY dangerous books, after all.
I think they might still be dangerous to Twilight even if they aren't "real" occult text.

For example. It would completely not surprise me if, after picking out the books in question, Twilight spent a week straight reading them over and over trying to figure out what they had in common and what was going on with them and trying to piece everything together. Honestly, even just telling Twilight there are books out there which one can learn secret Lore Lessons from might set her off.

Hopefully that doesn't happen, because we are spending time to work with her, and if we are lucky we can focus her attention down in a way that is healthy. But "hopefully" leaves a lot of room for things to go bad.

I can remove it if it offends you that much. My idea was that it could be a reasonable thing Twilight could do, to direct the search towards more specific books, as... well, she's the librarian.

It might be a bit too much of using narrative to modify the mechanics maybe, kinda like using a public library to get lore books without paying.


EDIT: (I mean "remove the preference. not the whole write-in. Just to be clear)
That sounds great!

That wouldn't address my worries about the write-in as a whole, but as I said earlier I'm not necessarily opposed to it; merely wary.
 
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I think they might still be dangerous to Twilight even if they aren't "real" occult text.

For example. It would completely not surprise me if, after picking out the books in question, Twilight spent a week straight reading them over and over trying to figure out what they had in common and what was going on with them and trying to piece everything together. Honestly, even just telling Twilight there are books out there which one can learn secret Lore Lessons from might set her off.

Hopefully that doesn't happen, because we are spending time to work with her, and if we are lucky we can focus her attention down in a way that is healthy. But "hopefully" leaves a lot of room for things to go bad.
Given how she reacted to seeing us and the thought of doing any more book reading with us, I expect she would very purposefully not touch any potential Lore books until we were present to guide her. Twilight can, occasionally, learn her lesson. Having a mentor available go to makes it much less likely for her to go off on her own.
 
Ok, I crossed out the "preference" part of the write in. It was probably a bit too much to ask, basically bending the mechanics thanks to the narrative.

We still need to hear from Bird if Twilight can help in this and how anyway.
 
Ok, I crossed out the "preference" part of the write in. It was probably a bit too much to ask, basically bending the mechanics thanks to the narrative.

We still need to hear from Bird if Twilight can help in this and how anyway.
While it's indeed up to BirdBodhisattva to decide, personally, I think that with preferences crossed Twilight's help would be counterproductive.

We know that the books we read do not actually contain occult knowledge, and that's the other qualities of the book one would usually judge are not really relevant for the purpose of the leaning the scrap. Personally, I interpret it in a way that "learning about Lore cannot be dissociated with changing your view of the world" goes both ways, and by changing one's mindstate and view of the world they will learn truths of the lore, but that isn't really relevant.

What is relevant, is that no "mundane" quality of the book determine its suitably as a lore source. Yes, more graphic and detailed it gets higher the level of the book it correspond to - as far as we've seen. Maybe we can filter out low level books this way. Yet, what constitutes a good book for a scholar and for an occultist is two distinct sets of qualities, and Twilight isn't really familiar with the latter, only with former. Maybe - maybe - she can help with Lantern and whatever is her second affinity is, maybe with secret histories book too, given recent exposure, but I doubt that she knows markers for any other category (which we would have informed her about if we did tell her our preferences, even if I doubt that she would have gotten anything resembling a low percent of "false-positives").

Basically, I think that it can leave only high level books, and then exclude some of those too, which we might not want.
 
Basically, I think that it can leave only high level books, and then exclude some of those too, which we might not want.
maybe. At this point I'm waiting a comment from Bird about how this write-in would work.

Our servants are STILL capable of finding lorebooks, without any occult knowledge. I'd expect Twilight to be better than them, or at least to be able to help somehow. I simply have troubles to imagine a librarian not being able to help, especially a librarian who seems to have memorized quite a few books.

Maybe, mechanically, it will simply be something like a +10 to the search, and we can ignore all the narrative "hows", and simply go with "she knows where every book is, she brings the servants/us whatever seems to fit what we're asking".
 
Ok, I crossed out the "preference" part of the write in. It was probably a bit too much to ask, basically bending the mechanics thanks to the narrative.

We still need to hear from Bird if Twilight can help in this and how anyway.

I'm just a bit confused on how "get Twilight's help" and "(Servant action)" will interact. And by confused I mean I really don't like it. Treating friendships badly and trying to squeeze as much mechanical benefit out of them as possible is wrong.
The whole thing smacks of being too clever for our own good. Trying to stuff too much into fewer actions.
Perhaps not do it this turn and do it instead next after we have had some lessons with her? There isn't going to be nearly as much going on then right?
What if next turn we do the book search personally with Twilight?
 
Both of the underlined sections in @Pittauro's plan feel as if they're either breaking the mechanics or will just bring a lower result than would otherwise be found.

Artifacts are narratively rare, so filtering out non-SH artifacts won't make our search go faster (since there isn't anything to remove). It'll just remove other things we might want to buy (and possibly make it even harder to get a SH artifact, by ignoring clues that would otherwise be followed on grounds of 'that sounds like Knock, not SH...')
And since we can't guide our SH3 bonus, focusing that on a particular type of artifact brings no benefits relative to just searching for 'artifacts' and hoping we get a SH one.

Add to that the potential narrative/social issue of foisting our servants onto Twilight to hunt for books, when just a few days ago we were the target of her hysteria, and the fact that the two plans are otherwise identical.
If and when Bird chimes in (and/or expands the Quest Mechanics based on this question) it'll be a different matter, but until then I see no reason to vote for moderate, concrete losses and an unsubstantiated chance of a minor roll benefit.


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I simply have troubles to imagine a librarian not being able to help, especially a librarian who seems to have memorized quite a few books.

Maybe, mechanically, it will simply be something like a +10 to the search, and we can ignore all the narrative "hows", and simply go with "she knows where every book is, she brings the servants/us whatever seems to fit what we're asking".
This is the topic that felt like rule-breaking. If we can communicate the nature of Lore enough to Twilight to have her actively filter out normal from Lore books, then we might as well just read from her library instead of buying from a shop, which removes the monetary cap on book acquisition.

I've been imagining the servants' helping us as something like bringing us a list of all not-badly-written books, and we filter out the Lore-holding ones into another list, which we look at later on to decide what to buy.
 
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Both of the underlined sections in @Pittauro's plan feel as if they're either breaking the mechanics or will just bring a lower result than would otherwise be found.

Artifacts are narratively rare, so filtering out non-SH artifacts won't make our search go faster (since there isn't anything to remove). It'll just remove other things we might want to buy (and possibly make it even harder to get a SH artifact, by ignoring clues that would otherwise be followed on grounds of 'that sounds like Knock, not SH...')
And since we can't guide our SH3 bonus, focusing that on a particular type of artifact brings no benefits relative to just searching for 'artifacts' and hoping we get a SH one.

Now wait, I agree with you about the Twilight action, but my understanding is that the artifact action is fully valid.
Unless I misunderstand it's having Rarity act as an emissary for:

-[] You now have a better grasp of the merchants in Ponyville, having had several letters of introduction sent around in your name. But what would you like to do next?
--[] Meet a few of them in person, and ingrain them to your cause. (WRITE IN if you will try to win them as personally loyal to you, or if you will point them in the direction of the cult)
--[] They are bit handlers, and that means they are a source of income. "Borrow" a few bits from your family and do a few quick investments. Everything will be back to its place by the end of the month, and you will be a little richer for that. (Attempt to gain a few more bits on the side, using your family's fortune as a lever) Highly suspicious.
--[] They know somepony who knows somepony who knows somepony. Use that to your advantage. (Ask them to search for an artifact. Specift LORE and LEVEL, up to Level 3. It will be added to your available list, but will be more expensive than normal) Not suspicious.

Also unrelated idea: Would it be possible to accumulate enough bits to start making investments in our own name? It would be difficult but not impossible to accrue the money, but having an income stream entirely separate from family would be valuable.
 
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Also unrelated idea: Would it be possible to accumulate enough bits to start making investments in our own name? It would be difficult but not impossible to accrue the money, but having an income stream entirely separate from family would be valuable.
You mean something like investing in one of our friends to make her a famous dressmaker? :p

Personally I'd rather wait with involving Twilight in book searches until she's a Confidante, or Velvet is involved.
(I'm also not a fan of editing posted plans unless they're actually wrong - it might be ok for those who follow every post in the thread, but not so much for those who read the story, vote, then disappear until the next chapter is posted.)
 
Both of the underlined sections in @Pittauro's plan feel as if they're either breaking the mechanics or will just bring a lower result than would otherwise be found.

Artifacts are narratively rare, so filtering out non-SH artifacts won't make our search go faster (since there isn't anything to remove). It'll just remove other things we might want to buy (and possibly make it even harder to get a SH artifact, by ignoring clues that would otherwise be followed on grounds of 'that sounds like Knock, not SH...')
And since we can't guide our SH3 bonus, focusing that on a particular type of artifact brings no benefits relative to just searching for 'artifacts' and hoping we get a SH one.

Add to that the potential narrative/social issue of foisting our servants onto Twilight to hunt for books, when just a few days ago we were the target of her hysteria, and the fact that the two plans are otherwise identical.
If and when Bird chimes in (and/or expands the Quest Mechanics based on this question) it'll be a different matter, but until then I see no reason to vote for moderate, concrete losses and an unsubstantiated chance of a minor roll benefit.

Asking merchants for a specific artifact is a different kind of action than the normal search. We get to CHOOSE lore and level, but we pay more for it. We unlocked it by using a servant action some time ago to establish contact with the merchants of Ponyville.


What I'm doing with Twilight is technically nothing more that something the rules specifically allow: to add Good Friends in our actions as write-in to boost our level of success/have them help. Logically I imagine a librarian can help find good quality books, at the very least, and the one thing all lore books had in common is that they WERE good quality, I think.

The one thing I'm not sure about is if we can add such a write-in to what's technically a servant-action. if we can't, I'll simply cut it out and possibly reconsider it with a personal action in a following turn


This is the topic that felt like rule-breaking. If we can communicate the nature of Lore enough to Twilight to have her actively filter out normal from Lore books, then we might as well just read from her library instead of buying from a shop, which removes the monetary cap on book acquisition.

I've been imagining the servants' helping us as something like bringing us a list of all not-badly-written books, and we filter out the Lore-holding ones into another list, which we look at later on to decide what to buy.

we're not allowed to "read her library's books" for free because of mechanics. Narratively it's (barely) justified as us needing to keep the books for longer, to check them multiple time, and such things.

Even if you think of the servants searching books as "find not-badly written books, and we then filter them"... well, Twilight can probably help them do it even faster. She probably knows most of the books in her library after all.

Basically, I think it's obvious that Twilight CAN help the action. The doubt is "by how much", and if it can be done on a servant action.

You mean something like investing in one of our friends to make her a famous dressmaker? :p

Personally I'd rather wait with involving Twilight in book searches until she's a Confidante, or Velvet is involved.
(I'm also not a fan of editing posted plans unless they're actually wrong - it might be ok for those who follow every post in the thread, but not so much for those who read the story, vote, then disappear until the next chapter is posted.)

That investment was on behalf of our family sadly, not our own. We just frontloaded 300 bits for it, basically getting a higher share of the "merit" for the deal.

About the edit... well, i thought it a really small one (just adding Twilight helping us, especially after I removed the "priority" bit), and when I had done it I think I had only 3 votes. I don't think it's that big of a problem in this case, and I've mentioned it a lot. It's all we've been talking about for the last 2 pages at least, and there's probably one more day or so before the vote is closed too
 
Artifacts are narratively rare, so filtering out non-SH artifacts won't make our search go faster (since there isn't anything to remove). It'll just remove other things we might want to buy (and possibly make it even harder to get a SH artifact, by ignoring clues that would otherwise be followed on grounds of 'that sounds like Knock, not SH...')
We explicitly have the option to ask the merchants guild to find us a specific type of artifact, at the cost of paying more then we otherwise would.
 
Thanks for the info. If merchants are capable of getting specific artifact-classes, the plan's not nearly as problematic as I thought, though I'm still too uncomfortable with the social-aspect of the Twilight action to vote for it.
 
Thanks for the info. If merchants are capable of getting specific artifact-classes, the plan's not nearly as problematic as I thought, though I'm still too uncomfortable with the social-aspect of the Twilight action to vote for it.
I disagree, but I understand the worry.

Just remember that all we're asking of her is (presumably) to suggest a few good books to our servants, and that it would happen AFTER our lesson.

There is a small risk, I suppose... but the books she'd suggest are likely books she'd already know. And as those are mostly normally books in which Velvets can rarely find a few scraps of TRUE primeval knowledge in, the risks are relatively low.

Like, what kind of threats would THESE books be to Twilight?

in order, these should be ALL THE BOOKS appeared thus far, both bought and not bought (except maybe a couple lvl 1 books that I might have missed)


First of all, the books we currently own
BOOK, HEART Level 1. "A small book that covers a particular kind of elegant dancing".
BOOK, HEART Level 2. "A novel about a mare who fell in love with a drummer, the romantic parts all written in rhyming poetry".
BOOK, HEART Level 3. "A study about yak culture. The part about their history and folklore is of little use. The chapters about their songs, however…".
BOOK, FORGE Level 1. "A small handbook on camping, explaining the basics of how to build a tent and start a small fire".
BOOK, MOTH Level 1. "A poetry book. Amateur work, really, but one of them talks about masks…,".

I think none of this sounds dangerous to Twilight.


The next ones are the ones we found at her library so long ago, but sadly didn't have the bits to buy.
-A treatise on the relationship of Equestria and its neighboring lands – SECRET HISTORIES Level 3, costs 30 bits

-A dramatic reading of an ancient war – SECRET HISTORIES Level 2, costs 15 bits

-A historical atlas of Ponyville and its surrounding lands – Reveals TWO places for expeditions, costs 15 bits

...I'm SO regretting not being able to buy the expedition one!

I still don't really see any dangerous book in here, except.. well, Twilight didn't react that well to SH knowledge, but that's one lore out of 9, and we already promised to teach her. I don't think the danger's really high, especially as she'd search for books AFTER our lesson


The following ones are the ones we already studied
KNOCK
-Level 1 – "A handbook that tells the tale of a thief"
-Level 2 – "An absolutely boring encyclopedia about how the tunnels, on the mountain in which Canterlot is perched, were dug. Reading this will be a challenge…"
-Level 3 - "An encyclopedia about poisonous snakes, with several artful illustrations"

GRAIL
-Level 2 – "It's a book. About food. It has food on the cover, so that's what it is. If your daughter ever finds it, that's what you'll tell her. If your husband finds it, however…"

SECRET HISTORIES
-Level 3 – "A curious scroll, a copy from the original of course, detailing the appearance of King Sombra, centuries ago."

FORGE
-Level 2 - "A book about ingenious farming equipment, and how they function". (EFFECT DOUBLED)

Other than her probably dying of embarassment from the Grail Book, I again don't see how these books would be DANGEROUS to her.

and lastly, the books we're buying now.

[] EDGE lvl 3, "a posthumous, and rather contentious, biography of the legendary pegasus called Flash Magnus," 30 bits.
[] KNOCK lvl 2, "a fairly recent, and short, book about dream interpretation. You know it is recent because it was dedicated to Princess Luna's return," 15 bits
[] WINTER lvl 2, "a book on the benefits of Meditation, and why you should try it," 15 bits

eh, maybe the first two? one could probably clash with her rather peaceful mindset, and the other might let her think too much about Luna, but these aren't really LORE-related problems.

Generally speaking, I don't think Twilight would be able to notice the scraps of lore hidden in these without our help, as she's simply too used to think "normally". And any danger that might come from these books, she could find by studying on her own anyway.


...really, I'm SO annoyed at not having been able to buy the expedition book now!
 
Ok, I think I can reasonably say the vote is decided.

I'd find it REALLY amusing if, after saying this, suddenly a long list of votes came in and changed the result though :V

Twilight lesson will be interesting, and if we just got that expedition book...
 
It's the roll that had us find Twilight's library.

On that note, shouldn't we get a book search bonus in ponyville or something, due to Twilight?
Ah, it was two places of expedition. Thought I had misremembered something.

And on the second note, our dear Twilight is not much in condition to be... useful, so to speak.
At anything, mind you.

Miscellaneous note: does Attention of the Laws work even if your bonus comes from an Artifact?
Attention of the Laws doubles your Application bonus. But only your personal Lore level gives you Application Bonus. Having an Edge 5 artifact will not make it so that you are considered an Edge 5 for combat or for Lore perks. You will be considered a Level 5 for Rituals and other Knowledge things (resisting curses, passing through Mansus hurdles, etc), and will gain any other "artifact bonus" it gives, but nothing on the personal Application Bonus part.

I don't really find this kind of plan-vote very engaging in quests, too much work to consider all the options properly.
While I agree that it requires work (and I am truly thankful for everyone who puts in the effort!) this kind of voting is the only way to really give as much agency as possible to readers.

The other option, I believe, would be for me to take up far more control over Velvet Covers, and only open voting and give options at certain "crossroads", like in a Visual Novel or a videogame of sorts. But that doesn't really feel appealing... And really, again, I'm writing this to train, so having you all include your delightful thoughts into it through your (sometimes unexpected) choices is a good way to keep me on my toes!

Also, the truly important votes are "crossroad"-based. What to ask for from Celestia, what to do with Selene, how to deal with Jade Whistle, those pivotal moments will (as much as I am able to make it so) always be straightforward "these are your choices, pick one" moments.

lvl 4 artifacts would likely be 400 bits
If you want to acquire them legally, that is.

...so, in conclusion, an expedition would be AT LEAST 50 bits. More if we bring more than one more pony.
Aye. That also sounds accurate.

Your investment in expeditions will still be usually more cost-effective than buying from stores and whatnots when it comes to rewards, considering the risks involved.

Given how she reacted to seeing us and the thought of doing any more book reading with us, I expect she would very purposefully not touch any potential Lore books until we were present to guide her.
I'd wager both things could happen, depending on the literal flip of a coin. Her "thisiswrongthisiswrongthisiswrong" making her abhor the notion of learning more about the Lores fighting against her need to understand things.

A lot of this is incredibly insightful and observant.

I've been imagining the servants' helping us as something like bringing us a list of all not-badly-written books
I will admit that I had servants doing book-searches as a regular action. As in "servant action goes in, rewards come out", and more as a mechanical thing. But come to think of it, there was not really that many explanations of why they would give you a list with (usually) three books that will be perfectly useful for Lore learning.

That said, what you wrote is now my head-cannon as well. Thank you kindly for that!

Also unrelated idea: Would it be possible to accumulate enough bits to start making investments in our own name?
It would require something on the four-digit-scale of bits. Think about it, even a 10% profit from a quick (less-than-a-month-long) investment is a GOOD result, and I am certainly not saying you'd manage even that much. So investing from your own pocket, while possible, would be far less effective, and would freeze your bits for that whole month (no book buying or emergency mid-turn shopping available).


----[] ask Twilight for help in finding good books. That's her job after all, isn't it? (preference: Heart lvl2+, expedition sites, Edge lvl2+, in THAT order, if it matters). If it improves the action offer a tip/donation to the library to improve the results.
Aigh! I placed this quote to the very end so I can address it properly.

Simply put, I will unfortunately have to veto this specific write-in. There are two reasons for this.

Firstly, asking friends (Friends or Good Friends) to help with your actions is already something rather... delicate, so to speak. Well, not delicate in a way that it can horribly backfire, but delicate in the way that it is still a social interaction of sorts, with all the intricacies that follows.
While on the other hand, your servant action is literally to tell your servants (remember, you are a noble and they are your servants. This enters the same slippery slope of "are Celestia's guards doing their job because they are paid, or because she is the Princess?") to do something.
So in all honesty, asking a non-Confidant to aid a servant action feels... cold? Rather wrong, to say the least. It will be you telling a pony who you have a relationship with (even if a Good Friend level relationship with) to... accompany your servants? To order your servants around and guide their efforts?
It feels awkward.

And most importantly, the spirit of your servant action is that they will do something with as little oversight as possible from you, hence the care of not sending them on "suspicious" actions, and why you usually even forget you gave them the order to begin with. They are an extra action because they only cost they give to your personal time is how long you take to read their report.
So you'd be asking your Friend (even if they are a Good Friend) to... well, do something that will have zero interaction with you.

Simply put, sending a non-Confidant to help on a servant action feels (narratively) like something Velvet would not do, seeing how careful she is with ponies.

Oh, sending a Confidant is fair game, since it will cost their action (you'd have to pick the "help you out" action) and it would amount to them effectively ordering your servants in your stead.

Aye. That's for the first reason.

Second reason: you have only just begun to convert indoctrinate seduce reeducate dear Twilight Sparkle. And she is still on the grips of a Fascination. I don't see Velvet giving her that sort of task, even if she is sure that she manages to drag Twi out of that particularly bright spot. It'd be too soon to give her a "task" after what she has just been through, for one thing, and she wouldn't want for Twilight to think that she needs to "repay" you by doing chores, for another.
 
While I agree that it requires work (and I am truly thankful for everyone who puts in the effort!) this kind of voting is the only way to really give as much agency as possible to readers.

The other option, I believe, would be for me to take up far more control over Velvet Covers, and only open voting and give options at certain "crossroads", like in a Visual Novel or a videogame of sorts. But that doesn't really feel appealing... And really, again, I'm writing this to train, so having you all include your delightful thoughts into it through your (sometimes unexpected) choices is a good way to keep me on my toes!

Also, the truly important votes are "crossroad"-based. What to ask for from Celestia, what to do with Selene, how to deal with Jade Whistle, those pivotal moments will (as much as I am able to make it so) always be straightforward "these are your choices, pick one" moments.
I'm not really complaining about the format, it's a perfectly reasonable one, I just personally prefer not to dig into plan-voting too deeply most of the time, unless for some reason I really feel strongly about certaion actions. I'm more likely to participate in discussion for "crossroads"-style votes.
 
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