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This seems likely to backfire.

The NASP just declared their action against Imhotep a rogue attack. They're probably getting screamed at by NASP sector command for inflaming things further, and I'd very much doubt that either side is happy with the other. Hitting them hard where they live again will force their capital ships to be brought back home, net us a fuckton more Wealth and PC which we need in prep for the next strategic turn when the real NASP reinforcements show up, and push even more cracks between the richest system on our section of the border and the NASP. If we can shatter that link, we can look into properly conquering the system once we have enough weight of metal.
 
[X] Raid Chuang Mu, Again. You can force these battleships off Imhotep if you threaten their home system in greater force.

I want to force them off and then retreat a bit, but this time we commit to SLAUGHTERING THEM.

I WARNED you all about the stupidity of the action of diplomacy but nope, 'slavery is bad, we shouldn't do it!' Well if we had, we would have been back LONG before those battleships arrived!

Also there is no way in HELL we can beat those BC's unless the commander of those Heavy cruisers has at least 17 tactics and they are all Dragon class cruisers.
 
[X] Raid Chuang Mu, Again. You can force these battleships off Imhotep if you threaten their home system in greater force.

Good to see that I was right and we not o ly had the opportunity to blow open the whole system, but that our PC thinks that doing so will get the battleships to leave Imhotep. Let's go make a mint, shall we?
 
I'm inclined to hit their home system again, to draw off their battleships. Maybe we can bait a trap, even. Imhotep is probably a lost cause for the forseeable future.

Alas for our mercenary contacts.
 
@Snowfire @Forgothrax If you buy a battlecruiser with political capital then you can requisition the Sword of Democracy, which is just finishing refit to Imperial standard over Ilam after the navy bought it, if you want to buy one with cash then it would take longer, there are less than twenty battlecruisers in the empire.

Can we pull favors to acquire a Share with Political Capital right now?
So that, when we return from either harassment run or another raid, we get presented with a membership in peerage?
 
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This seems likely the backfire.

I agree another raid is asking to fall into a trap and escalate this into a full scale war. Better to go after the 'rouge' fleet of 3 Capital Ships and support ships. If we raid, there is a very good chance we can be pincer ed in a trap between ships and the orbital defense. Better to just go steal the Capital Ships, since we have a much better chance of success at that and it won't drag in a response, hopefully.

@Snowfire If you buy a battlecruiser with political capital then you can requisition the Sword of Democracy, which is just finishing refit to Imperial standard over Ilam after the navy bought it, if you want to buy one with cash then it would take longer, there are less than twenty battlecruisers in the empire.

We should buy one with our wealth since it would be ours. It might take longer, but that way it can't be snatched away like our last one. The same goes for the Sector Budget, it just isn't worth while to boost it when we could leave in a year or two.

The NASP just declared their action against Imhotep a rogue attack. They're probably getting screamed at by NASP sector command for inflaming things further, and I'd very much doubt that either side is happy with the other. Hitting them hard where they live again will force their capital ships to be brought back home, net us a fuckton more Wealth and PC which we need in prep for the next strategic turn when the real NASP reinforcements show up, and push even more cracks between the richest system on our section of the border and the NASP. If we can shatter that link, we can look into properly conquering the system once we have enough weight of metal.

Conquering a planet is just asking to get bogged down. Immotep is already a mess from this kind of thinking. Better to try and slow the situation down a bit before we have capital ships pouring all over the boarder. Push back the rouge elements and call it a day.
 
I WARNED you all about the stupidity of the action of diplomacy but nope, 'slavery is bad, we shouldn't do it!' Well if we had, we would have been back LONG before those battleships arrived!

Also there is no way in HELL we can beat those BC's unless the commander of those Heavy cruisers has at least 17 tactics and they are all Dragon class cruisers.


Even if we had done the slave raid, we don't have the forces to take on that many battleships with a single heavy cruiser and the rest of our support ships in various states of needing refit/repair/rest. They would've driven on Imhotep, regardless.
 
[X] Their problem. The Imperial Fleet is exhausted. Now is the time for the Duchies to show their patriotism!
 
@Snowfire If you buy a battlecruiser with political capital then you can requisition the Sword of Democracy, which is just finishing refit to Imperial standard over Ilam after the navy bought it, if you want to buy one with cash then it would take longer, there are less than twenty battlecruisers in the empire.

:o

Um...does that mean that we could theoretically get her now? I know you said next strategic turn, but if she's right there. Could we get her refit crash accelerated?

@Gunman please tell me we can afford this! Four HCs and a BC should be able to shatter Chaung Mu!

[X] Raid Chuang Mu, Again. You can force these battleships off Imhotep if you threaten their home system in greater force.
 
How much wealth would it cost to hurry up the repairs/refits for our cruisers? I'm thinking our best bet is to raid with our new heavy cruiser friends and try to draw one or two battleships into a trap while we wait for Fleet Command to send us some capital ships.
 
I agree another raid is asking to fall into a trap and escalate this into a full scale war. Better to go after the 'rouge' fleet of 3 Capital Ships and support ships. If we raid, there is a very good chance we can be pincer ed in a trap between ships and the orbital defense. Better to just go steal the Capital Ships, since we have a much better chance of success at that and it won't drag in a response, hopefully.

Bahahahahaha no. Our PC can probably 1v1 a battleship with his cruiser. 3 battleships? No. Not happening. Especially because they have support ships.

Um...does that mean that we could theoretically get her now? I know you said next strategic turn, but if she's right there. Could we get her refit crash accelerated?

No. 110PC for a ship we can't keep is too high a price.
 
No. 110PC for a ship we can't keep is too high a price.

110PC for a ship that could let us break Chuang Mu wide open and win back as much PC as we'll spend on her.

Sometimes you gotta pay money to make money. This is one of those times. We can get a BC of our own with Wealth once we have enough investment to cover her upkeep. We need a crash return option now, not in a year.
 
I'm against a committed raid against Chuang Mu; the system defenses are explicitly there to tarpit us until reinforcements show up. We don't know how well-handled their defenses will be (although we can guess) and if they decide to come back to play, we might end up trapped between two fires.
 
110PC for a ship that could let us break Chuang Mu wide open and probably win back as much PC as we'll spend on her.

Sometimes you gotta pay money to make money. This is one of those times.

Or we could just do it with our HC and the 3 HCs that arrived. I've already done the numbers and we are more than capable of taking that monitor out ourselves.

I'm against a committed raid against Chuang Mu; the system defenses are explicitly there to tarpit us until reinforcements show up. We don't know how well-handled their defenses will be (although we can guess) and if they decide to come back to play, we might end up trapped between two fires.

FTL comms aren't a thing and it takes almost a week for light reinforcement to show up if they call for them, so...
 
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well then so long as the commander has 17 tactics we should be able to beat them head on.

Strategically, hitting them at home is far more valuable. It'll force them to withdraw heavy metal from Imhotep and make us a damn fortune. And four HCs with support (we will take support) will eviscerate their defences.
 
@Packrat - I'd also be interested in just what the Ducal houses think of this, because as mentioned the people on Illam still think it's deception that this isn't NASP approved, and if they think that then the Nobles houses do. So it should be very much in their interest to respond and stop it right now, before the NASP reinforce them with even more ships and things become more complicated, and the planets they own become battlegrounds.

Frankly if they smuggle, hinder Imperial finances, and thus hinder the Imperial Navy; and don't respond and help like vassals are meant too when called then the real question is just what the purpose of them is.
 
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Also, most of our light units really need time to refit before they're ready to support fleet operations again.
 
I'm against a committed raid against Chuang Mu; the system defenses are explicitly there to tarpit us until reinforcements show up. We don't know how well-handled their defenses will be (although we can guess) and if they decide to come back to play, we might end up trapped between two fires.
except if we attack it will take them WEEKS get get back there, weeks during which we can slaughter their defenses which they will never get back forcing the BC's to stay there letting us reclaim IMHOtep.
 
Bahahahahaha no. Our PC can probably 1v1 a battleship with his cruiser. 3 battleships? No. Not happening. Especially because they have support ships.

With our strategy we could lure one ship into an ambush or draw them into a poor position. The planet is, excuse my language, completely fucked. They have assets on the ground, so they have to cover the planet. We could easily draw a couple of ships away at a time while threatening the planet so they have to keep some in reserve.

I'm against a committed raid against Chuang Mu; the system defenses are explicitly there to tarpit us until reinforcements show up. We don't know how well-handled their defenses will be (although we can guess) and if they decide to come back to play, we might end up trapped between two fires.

Also this. Better to fight the enemy on ground we know and not escalate the war to completely hot before we are ready for it. Taking out the 'rouge' elements and then having peace for a bit is far better than to keep pounding away.
 
This also depends on our "reinforcements" agreeing to work with us; they're not technically under our command.
 
With our strategy we could lure one ship into an ambush or draw them into a poor position. The planet is, excuse my language, completely fucked. They have assets on the ground, so they have to cover the planet. We could easily draw a couple of ships away at a time while threatening the planet so they have to keep some in reserve.

Our Strategy helps, but they likely have the same size fleet or bigger than we have, with 3 BBs as the cherry on top. And while our Tactics is great, against a fleet like that everyone else will get shot to shit even if Endeavor is dancing like a butterfly.
 
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