Yes. You are The Killer Aliens.

[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.

It's not paranoia if we really are out there to get them
 
[] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
[] Hack into infrastructure.
-[] Power plants.
-[] Disease research centers.
-[] Search for military assets.

I like this plan to begin with.

Going forward, I think we should start by making a disinfo virus that only affects somewhere with a... reputation. I'm thinking we plant a disinfo virus inside of North Korea. They've got, what, forty Internet connections to the outside world? The intranet that is in North Korea is pretty tightly controlled. We can start out with trying to work our magic on the citizens of North Korea as a testing ground. Best of all, almost no one will believe them if we're caught.
 
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Going forward, I think we should start by making a disinfo virus that only affects somewhere with a... reputation. I'm thinking we plant a disinfo virus inside of North Korea. They've got, what, forty Internet connections to the outside world? The intranet that is in North Korea is pretty tightly controlled. We can start out with trying to work our magic on the citizens of North Korea as a testing ground. Best of all, almost no one will believe them if we're caught.
being caught means they have something to have something to show, which they might show to China/Russia in which cause thing will go wrong.
 
being caught means they have something to have something to show, which they might show to China/Russia in which cause thing will go wrong.

It's possible that we'll be caught in any nation. If we're caught in North Korea, though, then the matter may be mishandled. North Korea's reputation will proceed it, and other intelligence agencies will be wary of trusting a nation that makes as much propaganda as North Korea.

Going to NK won't stop us from being caught, but we can use the trust issues present to mitigate damage. Of course, if NK gets concrete video of us, then we're screwed; but that'd be true for any place in the world with modern digital technology, and we're specialized for digital tech. What if there's just a digital trail? The US, Russia, China, and anywhere in the EU might have the resources to follow that*, but NK only has China (and even then, it's begrudging). Going to NK wouldn't stop us from messing up, but I struggle to think of any isolated nation in the world that we could rely on to botch our discovery as bad as NK.

I'm not making the point that going to NK will stop us from being caught, but it does have the possibility of protecting us from our mistakes. We can make NK a forward base after the time is right.

*But probably not. Still, nightmare scenarios.

Edit: Also, NK has a controlled Intranet, not an Internet. That means that if we're really fast, we could feasiblly scrub any evidence of our existence before it gets too far.
 
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It's possible that we'll be caught in any nation. If we're caught in North Korea, though, then the matter may be mishandled. North Korea's reputation will proceed it, and other intelligence agencies will be wary of trusting a nation that makes as much propaganda as North Korea.

Going to NK won't stop us from being caught, but we can use the trust issues present to mitigate damage. Of course, if NK gets concrete video of us, then we're screwed; but that'd be true for any place in the world with modern digital technology, and we're specialized for digital tech. What if there's just a digital trail? The US, Russia, China, and anywhere in the EU might have the resources to follow that*, but NK only has China (and even then, it's begrudging). Going to NK wouldn't stop us from messing up, but I struggle to think of any isolated nation in the world that we could rely on to botch our discovery as bad as NK.

I'm not making the point that going to NK will stop us from being caught, but it does have the possibility of protecting us from our mistakes. We can make NK a forward base after the time is right.

*But probably not. Still, nightmare scenarios.

Edit: Also, NK has a controlled Intranet, not an Internet. That means that if we're really fast, we could feasiblly scrub any evidence of our existence before it gets too far.
I would rather hit isolated places first, like say deep in Africa or science stations in the ant arctic. before trying anything on a major/midrank/crappy yet connect nations.
 
How is this for a plan upgrade idea

Plan info gathering mk.2
Infiltration Targets:
[] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[] Hack into infrastructure.
-[] Power plants.
-[] Disease research centers.
-[] Search for military assets.
 
I would rather hit isolated places first, like say deep in Africa or science stations in the ant arctic. before trying anything on a major/midrank/crappy yet connect nations.

I can understand that urge, but we have information and psychology specializations. After this turn, we'll understand what we're dealing with. Then we can go in to this highly isolated nation and start seeing exactly how much control we have through screens. It'll be relatively quiet for a great number of turns. We'll just be sitting here using NK as a petri dish for our experiments on memetically vectored psychosis.

After that, we can start subtly expanding until we have control of the entire worlds Internet. We'll control the media for years, and we'll find ways to internally divide them while also concealing our existence. Eventually, they'll be in such disarray that all we'll need is some boots on the ground to control the newly defunct human nations. It'll be a one-day war after years of quiet preparation.

We really shouldn't establish a strong, physical forward base if we don't have to. We'll have our men run in, do ops, and get back out. The computer+psychology will do the rest of the work for us.

If we go to a remote location in Africa, then we have a permanent, tangible station on Earth. With a base, we can be seen. On the Interwebs, we're ghosts. The only problem will be infiltration and extraction to/from high value targets.
 
I am not arguing to make a base though. I am/was arguing waiting before sending in drones.
I would rather hit isolated places first, like say deep in Africa or science stations in the ant arctic. before trying anything on a major/midrank/crappy yet connect nations.
I took you saying isolated places first as meaning that you want to attack isolated places. Even still: after we've done some basic research, there is no strategic value in attacking areas like that. Their military tactics are so different, that we won't even be able to effectively learn from the experience. Attacking an isolated place seems to have little to no benefits, and the act carries risk.

Secondly, I don't think that the drones will be a concern. We have adequate cloaking technology for our purposes.

Finally--just so I know what I'm arguing against--do you or any others have a long-term plan to put forward that is in contrast to my own.
 
Plan info gathering mk.2
Infiltration Targets:
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.
 
Infiltration Targets:
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.
 
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X]Target all areas evenly.
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.

I have confidence in our bio-drones' ability to conceal themselves.
 
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.
 
I don't (I mean I'm most afraid of someone walking into one).
I believe that it's likely that they're programmed to not run into people. You have a legitimate concern, but I believe that they will be undetectable by conventional means. Maybe the CIA have specialized detection devices at street corners where we'll be noticed (and isn't that possibility horrifying), but that's about all I can think of.
 
Infiltration Targets:
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.
 
[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.
 
[] Australian Outback. Plentiful materials, hostile wild life.

Even aliens don't fuck around with Australia.


[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.

Gather info with Scout Drones, then start harvesting cows and such. Oh wait, wrong type of aliens.
 
Even aliens don't fuck around with Australia.


[X] Observe the Humans through stealthed Bio-Drones. Undetectable as far as you can tell.
-[X] Target more remote places and less densely populated places
[X] Hack into infrastructure.
-[X] Power plants.
-[X] Disease research centers.
-[X] Search for military assets.

Gather info with Scout Drones, then start harvesting cows and such. Oh wait, wrong type of aliens.
Oh God Damn It...

You just gave me a quest idea.

Aaaaaaaaggggghhhh.... help me.
 
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