Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
It will permenantly boost our health meter, going by zelda mechanics. If we have the default 3 hearts starting off with then it will give us a third again as much health.UberJJK said:
Xander [Quest], Thread Seven: Cops and G-Men and Parents, Oh My!
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Tetsurou
Communist Penguin
Would the Heart Container be a better Reagent then the incense?Judge Mental said:
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Why? Why weigh ourselves down with yet another skill when we can instead increase our health meter permanently?darthdavid said:
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Why do you want us to be frail and squishy?LordsFire said:
[X] Heart of Fire. You're sure that Altria will be so jealous like it.
The other aspect to this is that if we can naturally generate fire/are fire aligned, we may well be able to pirate Fire Bending from Zuko. Having a significantly boosted ki based set of offensive techniques available would be very useful. Ki use appears to be much lower profile than magic use, which is very important on the Hellmouth.
Even if this is the case, it shouldn't give us a whole new skill set to train, as it should build on top of one of our existing Prowesses, hopefully Spiritual Manipulation, which we have to raise anyway. We can simply steal the techniques from Zuko with Dicination next tournament.
Choosing this option does not necessarily make us fragile, either. A Fire Shield type spell would effectively make us a much harder target, as it would deter many physical attacks and destroy/damage many projectiles. Significant Fire Resistance/Immunity would massively protect us from a whole class of attacks, which, combined with using magic to shape our environment, would make us much harder to kill, as only similarly fire resistant enemies could approach us.
The killer application of this is, of course, vampires, who this would render a much lesser threat.
I wonder if a ritual consumption under tailored conditions supported by the right reagents would allow us to optimise what we received.
The other aspect to this is that if we can naturally generate fire/are fire aligned, we may well be able to pirate Fire Bending from Zuko. Having a significantly boosted ki based set of offensive techniques available would be very useful. Ki use appears to be much lower profile than magic use, which is very important on the Hellmouth.
Even if this is the case, it shouldn't give us a whole new skill set to train, as it should build on top of one of our existing Prowesses, hopefully Spiritual Manipulation, which we have to raise anyway. We can simply steal the techniques from Zuko with Dicination next tournament.
Choosing this option does not necessarily make us fragile, either. A Fire Shield type spell would effectively make us a much harder target, as it would deter many physical attacks and destroy/damage many projectiles. Significant Fire Resistance/Immunity would massively protect us from a whole class of attacks, which, combined with using magic to shape our environment, would make us much harder to kill, as only similarly fire resistant enemies could approach us.
The killer application of this is, of course, vampires, who this would render a much lesser threat.
I wonder if a ritual consumption under tailored conditions supported by the right reagents would allow us to optimise what we received.
I think magic training needs to be tabled until we get a teacher. The risk of drawing on Gannondorf's memories when we have nothing else to focus on is too great.
We have plenty of other prowesses that we have trainers for that we can invest the action slots in until either Merlin turns up or we find another teacher, such as Briar's mother, or something we summon.
We have plenty of other prowesses that we have trainers for that we can invest the action slots in until either Merlin turns up or we find another teacher, such as Briar's mother, or something we summon.
Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
A third again harder to kill.scope said:
ryuan
From Zero to Hero!
Alex won the world champ due to luck on the draws out.
He got Goku? He get's beaten like a little pig. Fresh Altria? Beaten like a ragdoll. Kurokami? He'd humiliated so throughly it won't be funny. And so on and so forth.
Besides, Alex is squishy. He won by beating the shit out of other people harder, not by taking it like a man.
He got Goku? He get's beaten like a little pig. Fresh Altria? Beaten like a ragdoll. Kurokami? He'd humiliated so throughly it won't be funny. And so on and so forth.
Besides, Alex is squishy. He won by beating the shit out of other people harder, not by taking it like a man.
Frail and squishy? Even in his normal human form Ganon was anything but frail and squishy. Now that we have martial arts and all of that Ki stuff? Yeah, there's no threat of us being "frail and squishy," and that's not mentioning our magical buffs.Aranfan said:
[X] Heart of Fire. You're sure that Altria will be so jealous like it.
ChiefTurtle117
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[X] Heart of Fire. You're sure that Altria will be so jealous like it.
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[X] Heart of Fire! Hot-Blooded for the Win!
In fact, it's fairly reasonable to imagine that the other goddesses had a thing or two to do with it - beating an older, more knowledgeable, more powerful sorcerer takes more than than just brute power; it takes wisdom and courage as well. I'm half-tempted to say that we sacrifice to all three instead of just Din, but it's bad form to change your mind just like that when dealing with divinities.
I say we sacrifice Arrogante's core, because a sacrifice won with nothing but our own power has more meaning - and the one won with the goddess' help could - would, in my mind - be seen as her blessing to us, a gift if you will. One that had to be earned, because she's not into freebies.LordsFire said:
In fact, it's fairly reasonable to imagine that the other goddesses had a thing or two to do with it - beating an older, more knowledgeable, more powerful sorcerer takes more than than just brute power; it takes wisdom and courage as well. I'm half-tempted to say that we sacrifice to all three instead of just Din, but it's bad form to change your mind just like that when dealing with divinities.
Arrogante's elemental associations also make it appropriate to sacrifice his core to Din in particular.Lord Sia said:
Our Spiritual Proewess is not high enough though. It's severely losing the race with PLE.tenchifew said:
I'm not sure that we are squishy compared to our foes, actually. We're much less so than the average vampire (we're not as inflammable as if we're soaked in petrol), and between magically armouring ourselves and using magic and ki to enhance our physical capabilities, we can rapidly become a very hardened target. Stack Haste and Body Flicker on top of that for dodging, and I don't think this is anything like a weak spot.tenchifew said:
We also have a massive advantage in terms of health recovery, as we have two (and possibly more in future) full heals from Briar per day, plus her and our ability to heal, plus healing potions if we buy or make any.
We have generally won our battles because we have a deeper and broader box of tricks than the foes we've faced. That's our strength. Let's build on it.
frozenchicken
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[x] Heart of Fire. You're sure that Altria will be so jealous like it.
Reasoning: There was concern that any ability received from the heart would just be another skill we would need to learn to use. Going from the description though, this does not seem like a skill. This is a passive power-up. This will not take away from our other forms of training, but instead enhances them.
Next is the fact that we've managed to attain two Hearts by 8 years of age (granted, in an unusual circumstance, but still. I dare say there will be more monsters to fight on the hellmouth). There will more than likely be quite a few more opportunities to gain Hearts, but there is no guarantee that later ones will be fire-aspected. The fire power-up is of seminal importance for us, due to the fact that we live in Vampire Central. Even if we choose not to specialise, Pyromancy is a very useful skill.
Reasoning: There was concern that any ability received from the heart would just be another skill we would need to learn to use. Going from the description though, this does not seem like a skill. This is a passive power-up. This will not take away from our other forms of training, but instead enhances them.
Next is the fact that we've managed to attain two Hearts by 8 years of age (granted, in an unusual circumstance, but still. I dare say there will be more monsters to fight on the hellmouth). There will more than likely be quite a few more opportunities to gain Hearts, but there is no guarantee that later ones will be fire-aspected. The fire power-up is of seminal importance for us, due to the fact that we live in Vampire Central. Even if we choose not to specialise, Pyromancy is a very useful skill.
Judge could you tell us exactly what we would gain from these options?Judge Mental said:
Right now we're only voting based on assumptions, it's very likely that we'll be disapointed with the result.
I can't remember where the exact quote is but I'm pretty sure Judge said we can't double up on training actions. So we can only put one training action into Spiritual Prowess each year.tenchifew said:
Your forgetting we were fighting against someone at least three times our age, probably closer to 5-7 times. Not only do we have the Young penalty acting against us he also has superior magical skill in general.tenchifew said:
Frankly if a single attack by him wasn't enough to kill Alex I would be concerned.