Wormverse ideas, recs, and fic discussion thread 1

Taylor is not part of the Undersiders at the start of the story, or even a parahuman. I am trying to think of an excuse for girl!Brian to run into her.
This is 100% not something that would interest me, I dislike crack comedy and that's what Ranma is, but in the interest of contributing, you already have the perfect connection: if Shadow Stalker is a friend of girl!Brian, then she might want to have her meet her other best friend, Emma, which would lead to the two revealing each other civilian identity, which Brian can go along with since revealing girl!Brian identity doesn't reveal to Shadow Stalker Grue's secret identity, but does reveals to Grue's Shadow's Stalker civilian ID, allowing for even more complications to arise, and then civilian Sophia, Emma and girl!Brian can stumble on Taylor to harass her. Brian might not join in, but he won't help a nobody against Shadow Stalker, he's not the type.

This way, you have a reasonable reason why girl!Brian and Taylor know each other - she's "that friend of Sophia I met the one time" - and then Taylor can have an antagonistic relationship with girl!Brian while crushing on boy!Brian when they met; and when Regent suggests to Taylor to take revenge on her tormentors Brian has to speak against it or else he risks getting involved by proxy... lot of potential complications that way which, if I understand correctly from having seen exactly one Ranma episode, is exactly the style of comedy you'd be going for.
 
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I considered some kind of bear, but I want a humorous tone and turning into a bear seems too much like an actual superpower. Which is relevant because...)
Saotome Genma is plenty comedic, and the size range of giant pandas (members of family Ursidae, the bears, but not of genus Ursus) significantly overlaps the size range of the American black bear.

Meanwhile, the sloth bear (from India) and the sun bear (from southeast Asia) are respectively comparable in size to, and smaller than, humans.
 
Brian gets cursed to turn into a girl, while his annoyingly nameless dad gets cursed to change into...some kind of large animal that is vaguely capable of boxing.
(I considered some kind of bear, but I want a humorous tone and turning into a bear seems too much like an actual superpower. Which is relevant because...)

Large animal capable of boxing? Possibly humorous? Seems pretty obvious: a kangaroo. Bonus point: wondering how the heck a 'roo ended up in China in the first place.
 
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This is 100% not something that would interest me, I dislike crack comedy and that's what Ranma is, but in the interest of contributing, you already have the perfect connection: if Shadow Stalker is a friend of girl!Brian, then she might want to have her meet her other best friend, Emma, which would lead to the two revealing each other civilian identity, which Brian can go along with since revealing girl!Brian identity doesn't reveal to Shadow Stalker Grue's secret identity, but does reveals to Grue's Shadow's Stalker civilian ID, allowing for even more complications to arise, and then civilian Sophia, Emma and girl!Brian can stumble on Taylor to harass her. Brian might not join in, but he won't help a nobody against Shadow Stalker, he's not the type.

This way, you have a reasonable reason why girl!Brian and Taylor know each other - she's "that friend of Sophia I met the one time" - and then Taylor can have an antagonistic relationship with girl!Brian while crushing on boy!Brian when they met; and when Regent suggests to Taylor to take revenge on her tormentors Brian has to speak against it or else he risks getting involved by proxy... lot of potential complications that way which, if I understand correctly from having seen exactly one Ranma episode, is exactly the style of comedy you'd be going for.
The problem being that Taylor and Sophia are not, in fact, friends. If Sophia hangs out with girl!Brian anywhere except school, Taylor is unlikely to be there. If, against all logic, Sophia invites girl!Brian to hang out at school, she's unlikely to bully Taylor in front of girl!Brian unless she knows "she" is gonna be okay with it.

Let's ignore the details of Sophia and Taylor's relationship. For Brian to meet Taylor through Sophia, Sophia would need to invite Brian to some location where Taylor also was. But the only location Sophia and Taylor generally inhabit at the same time is school, and who invites their friends to school?

I guess I could invert that time Taylor and Sophia met in the bookstore. I could probably find some reason to make Brian and Taylor chat and meet up later?


Saotome Genma is plenty comedic, and the size range of giant pandas (members of family Ursidae, the bears, but not of genus Ursus) significantly overlaps the size range of the American black bear.
I would argue that Genma is mostly funny because he acts like Genma, not because he looks like a panda.


Large animal capable of boxing? Possibly humorous? Seems pretty obvious: a kangaroo. Bonus point: wondering how the heck a 'roo ended up in China in the first place.
That's one of the possibilities I considered on the aforelinked Tumblr post, which goes into a lot more detail about almost everything and also provides an example of how I might explain non-Chinese animals ending up there.
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"Oh no! He fell in the Spring of the Drowned Girl! There's a very tragic legend about a young woman who drowned herself in that very spring 1,500 years ago!"
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"Oh no! He fell in the Spring of the Drowned Kangaroo! There's a tragic legend about a kangaroo who escaped from the zoo and drowned in that very spring in 1987!"
Anyways, kangaroos are pretty small for megafauna. The largest red kangaroos are within a standard deviation of average male human height and would qualify as cruiserweight boxers. They're not even heavyweight boxer size; it's hard to imagine how turning into a kangaroo would improve one's boxing ability.

Contrast that with bears; even midsized bears would box in the superheavyweight category, assuming you could get them to wear regulation boxing shorts. But someone turning into a bear to fight crime isn't silly, it's an obscure Marvel character.

I guess what I'm looking for is, paradoxically, something strong enough for Mr. Laborn's choice to make sense, but also weak enough that his choice is silly. Or a choice that makes sense and is silly for two separate reasons, which is both more possible and less definable.
I guess I should just pick between bear and kangaroo.
 
How close do people have to be for a Group Trigger? Do the Triggers have to happen at the exact same time or is there wiggle room?
It's not 100% clear.

The wiki lists five clusters.
  • We know basically nothing about the Graeae or the Stable's trigger events.
  • The Subway Cluster (Flechette/Foil, March Hare, and Homer) probably triggered in a very short period of time. However, this is because their trigger events were caused by a train hitting people, which is only trigger-worthy if the train is moving rather quickly.
  • We know a lot about the individual experiences of each Mall Cluster member, but AFAIK we don't have a timetable.
  • Goddess's Cluster triggered over the course of a few days, but it's stated that this happened because the triggers happened around (and to an extent because) of an inter-world portal. (I don't remember why it did that or look it up. It's not relevant.)
My sense is that the trigger events don't need to be simultaneous, just contemporaneous.

The exact limits probably depend on the trigger event. If a trigger event is fast, it needs to happen closer to the same time as other trigger events to cluster. If it's slow, it probably has more wiggle room.
Imagine that each trigger event has a duration, lasting from when shit hits the fan to when the new parahuman starts to calm down. If these durations overlap, you can probably call that a cluster.
Well, as long as there's some other connection between the triggers. Two people having unrelated crises on opposite sides of a brick wall may not qualify.

That said, it's probably more dramatic to have the trigger events happen as close to simultaneous as is practical.
 
You know I always find it a bit interesting that in many peggy sue fics when Taylor comes back from the future her immediate target is the E88 but when we know it canon she barely saw the group as an actual threat. (of course now know the out of verse reason is the (white) audience nowadays know how dangerous they actually are)
 
My first thought was that her gaining gay friends after the empire might have something to do with it, but then I remembered Brian being black.

So Golem might have something to do with it. He was never a fan of the empire, but stayed quiet so that he could stay with what he saw as his family, who were casually racist who were willing to take advantage of two individuals who were probably implied to have been mastered in some way.

And then he got abandoned despite trying his best to trigger and had the opportunity to get a new family among the Wards who could tell him how shitty several things were.
 
You know I always find it a bit interesting that in many peggy sue fics when Taylor comes back from the future her immediate target is the E88 but when we know it canon she barely saw the group as an actual threat.
I don't think that's actually true. She certainly saw them as pretty threatening the one time she fought them!

But she only fought them once, then Kaiser died and the gang split in half, and she fought them offscreen a little before Hookwolf and the Pure left town and the remaining Nazis weren't numerous or strong enough to do much.

Obviously there are moral reasons for a (slightly) more mature Taylor to target the Nazi gang instead of the Asian gang, and talking with Theo probably worsened her opinion of the Nazi gang, and if she gets Peggy Sued right after Gold Morning she'd probably have more respect for Lung than she started with.
But I don't think she saw the E88 as "barely...an actual threat." They were the biggest parahuman gang in Brockton Bay, destroyed before the Undersiders had to deal with them because their charismatic (to white supremacists) leader was killed in an Endbringer fight.

Which might be another reason fanfic Taylor targets them so often. We've seen her fight Lung in canon; Kaiser, not so much.
 
It might just be because we've all seen the Lung fight so often, and the Empire 88 has the largest roster of villains, so it can give the most variety in who she fights.
 
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