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Wolfenstein 2: Nazi Killing Boogaloo

ForeverShogo said:
Eh . . . My pessimism is so strong that I can't help but think the Nazis will maintain their control over Europe even if they're kicked out of the rest of the world. And I'm not even sure that will actually happen. If anything, I'd lean towards maybe North and South America being liberated at the maximum.

I'm sure the next entry in the series is going to prove me wrong no matter how little sense I think it makes. Because holy fucking hell did the end credits, with their shitty cover of "We're Not Going To Take It", completely shit all over what I felt was implied about the state of America and its overall acceptance of the Nazi regime.

I certainly don't think America is going to be in any shape to serve as a springboard for future liberations for a long ass time to come.
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Through the game it´s implied that the Nazis are on the ropes. The africans have stalled them in Africa according to Bombate (and now possibly might start pushing them back thanks to the destruction of one of their supply routes) and the French Resistance is still fighting them.
 
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I know this is a bit late...

ForeverShogo said:
I don't know about Stalin, but the Red Army didn't disappear. It abandoned Moscow after the Nazis flattened it with a bombing campaign, but it continued fighting against the Nazis even after the Soviet government officially surrendered.

Though it didn't last long. They were only able to keep fighting for around 3 months before the Nazis finished them off somewhere along the Volga River. Wish it was more specific. That is not a small river.

The only thing we know about Stalin's fate is that everyone thinks he was killed by his own men.
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I wouldn't count the Red Army (or at least some kind of Russian Guerrilla Army) as completely out just yet. The Germans wound up rebuilding the Great Wall (modernized with modern weapons and fortifications, natch) to defend occupied China from... something to their North, after all.
 
obssesednuker said:
I wouldn't count the Red Army (or at least some kind of Russian Guerrilla Army) as completely out just yet. The Germans wound up rebuilding the Great Wall (modernized with modern weapons and fortifications, natch) to defend occupied China from... something to their North, after all.
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Everything was quiet on the chinese front.

 
Kaiya said:
I...guess? Didn't a bunch of the Venus based ones survive though? I just don't feel like we ever cut through that many of them to destroy the whole world's supplies. Also, Hitler was in part of Venus that got locked off, so clearly the ones with him lived.
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Hitler wasn't in Oberkommando, he was in a private aerostat or sommat for his indulgent movie stuff.
obssesednuker said:
I know this is a bit late...



I wouldn't count the Red Army (or at least some kind of Russian Guerrilla Army) as completely out just yet. The Germans wound up rebuilding the Great Wall (modernized with modern weapons and fortifications, natch) to defend occupied China from... something to their North, after all.
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Weird Science Technomongols when.
 
Y'know, I had thought that the one and only good thing the Nazis had ever done was establish the first animal protection laws, along with maybe if you want to credit them (because it's hilarious to do so) the fact that American people of African descent got to meet their colleagues-in-melanin from both Britain and British territories, who gave no fucks what these white Yank idiots thought 'their place' was and encouraged the fellows who were letting this happen to them, who were only grudgingly allowed to be in the military and discriminated against even while they laid their lives on the line, that they didn't have to take this. Which arguably laid the grounds for the American civil rights movement's success - just think of how pissed those racist bigots would be!

Anyway.

It turns out they - inadvertently, accidentally, and basically the opposite of their intentions - managed to set into motion the events that finally, finally, after literally thousands of years of people watching their babies die, established that coeliac people's problem is with gluten, that they're not just doomed to suffer and die, mostly as babies. This has special importance for me, as my beloved little brother (who demands I stop calling him 'little,' as he is a legal adult and has been for a few years now, but he is eleven years younger than me, with no siblings in between, so little brother he remains) is coeliacs. I would link the whole tumblr thread, but only one post in it is relevant, so I'm just going to link that post, and reproduce it here:

I can bore people about the colorful history of celiac disease forever! but the BEST takeaway Fact is this:
In the 1940s, the connection between celiac disease and gluten was discovered by the Dutch physician Willem Dicke, who oversaw a hospital ward of children with celiac disease. The mortality rate of these children was over 35%, until -
Oh! Sorry! Was that shocking or something? Yes. Over thirty five percent of children would die. The children were taken from their parents and put in the hospital because they could not grow. They were malnourished, their brains couldn't develop, they were weak and disabled and cognitively impaired - and over a third of them were expected to die. Heartbreakingly and in pain. That's celiac disease, you know, that's just what it does…
Is that surprising? You know what's funny - in the Victorian era bananas were marketed as the first superfood, because babies fed on banana seemed to be protected from death by celiac disease. Desperate Victorian parents in Europe would scour the cities for the priceless and rare banana, in the hopes of protecting - or saving - their children from this ghostly and horrific disease. This scourge, this wasting illness that took your bright-eyed chubby cheerful nursling and turned them dull-eyed and listless, screaming when touched, their hair falling out, failing to thrive and all your dreams failing with them. So that's partly why bananas had such a marketing boom! To this day, people are obsessed with giving bananas and banana-flavoured things to babies, a hangover from a time when people thought they could prevent a deadly and incurable disease! Fun fact. Fun fact.
Anyway, more than a third of little kids with celiac disease were expected to die and the disease was incurable - a life sentence. Back to Dr Dicke, a Dutchman in the 1940s in the Netherlands; you can see where this is going.
Dr Dicke stayed with his ward when the Nazis invaded and began the Hongerwinter, the Hunger Winter, the Dutch famine of 1944. This was very hard for the medical staff, who fed the sick children on the water that they had boiled tulip bulbs in, and so on. But Dr Dicke noticed that his celiac ward, while starving to death and being lightly poisoned by tulips, were also cheering up a bit. The other kids were dying as normal, but the celiac mortality rate went from 35% to zero. "Weird," said Dr Dicke, who was an admirable scientist despite the stress of looking after dying babies in a starving Nazi-occupied city.
Then the Nazis agreed to let the Canadians air-drop in some food. Naturally, bread was an obvious choice. The Canadians dropped bread on Amsterdam. People grabbed the bread, and some of it made its way to the Hospital for Sick Children, because people are kind. And Dr Dicke took some of the precious life-saving morsels and went straight to his sickest kids, his celiac kids. He was being kind.
aaaaaand they went right back to dying.
"Fuck me!" Said Dr Dicke, "I have solved the medical mystery of a disease that has plagued Western civilisation since the ancient Greeks."
And just like that, it really was just like that, celiac disease stopped being a death sentence for little weanling babies.
Fun fact!
I mean, I know it's obvious that modern culture has mindlessly forgotten the events of WW2, but fun fact: we don't shove bread-and-milk down the necks of three month old babies anymore AND WE KNOW BETTER NOW, and all those babies who would have died from it got to grow up, and got to pass that critical stage of growth where you die from malnourishment.
they got to grow up into a generation that laughs at the accessibility and availability of gluten free food.
Fun fact!
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From here.
 
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So I was looking at the achievements on Playstation, and I saw a stat.

35% of people made it to Venus.

A mere 13% killed Hitler.

I mean, he's right there. Surely, even if you know that it's a bad idea from a plot perspective, you have to at least give it a go, right? And yet, so many people chose not to, or it didn't even occur to them.

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It's like seeing a 20 on the ground. You pick it up. Sure, if you're nice, you might check to see if it belongs to someone, but you still pick it up.

Same thing with Hitler. You see a Hitler on the ground, you stomp his head. It's just the done thing.
 
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Sir Bill said:
So I was looking at the achievements on Playstation, and I saw a stat.

35% of people made it to Venus.

A mere 13% killed Hitler.

I mean, he's right there. Surely, even if you know that it's a bad idea from a plot perspective, you have to at least give it a go, right? And yet, so many people chose not to, or it didn't even occur to them.

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It's like seeing a 20 on the ground. You pick it up. Sure, if you're nice, you might check to see if it belongs to someone, but you still pick it up.

Same thing with Hitler. You see a Hitler on the ground, you stomp his head. It's just the done thing.
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What? Killing Hitler is even possible?
 
Cyrus 21 said:
Results in a Non-standard Game Over, but it is possible. And you get an achievement.
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Okay. I'm okay with that. I had read it as the whole point being that Hitler doesn't matter, he's not the point, killing him does nothing, and might even help the Nazis, so focus on Engels. I would have honestly been bummed if they'd changed this.
 
So the Wolf2 Honest Trailer came out

And the comments are... just as you might've expected.

>Nazis
>Peaceful
>heh
 
Melbourne Anti-Fascists are planning to use Wolfenstein 2 in a protest against Milo 'Paedophilia is way cool' Yiannopoulos who will shortly be touring Australia because our government has no problem with Nazis, but god forbid you're a refugee.
 
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