Winter is Coming: House Stark Quest
- Thread starter Charcolt
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Walpurgis Knight
Guardian of Folkvang
- Location
- Union of Cascadian Socialist Republics (UCSR)
No, Dany never married Drogo, Drogo never died, Mirri Maz Dur was never sacrificed on the pyre, fire and blood never made the dragons hatch. There should be no dragons.
Charcolt
Comic Fan
That's a lot of assumptions!
Anyway I can say that this isn't exactly equatable to the death of Daeron I Targaryen. Assassinating an invading king when you're defending and have the support of the people is a bit different from assassinating the leader of a very pissed off army when you're a foreign invader with no support. There's more going on in the Golden Company's camp than meets the eye at this point.
Whatever else, I think we all can agree: fuck the Dornish!
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- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Walpurgis Knight
Guardian of Folkvang
- Location
- Union of Cascadian Socialist Republics (UCSR)
Alright then... There are two possibilities then. Either there are no dragons or there are dragon babies. Neither of which is really a threat to your army. Although, if there are tiny little dragons around, I suppose Robb could be the victim of a fly-by burning. That's assuming F/Aegon or Dany will be willing to risk their nascent dragon's life for the chance at killing you.
Although, it doesn't make much sense to me if they have dragons. If they had them, why wouldn't they hold off on invading until they were fully grown? With three full grown dragons, they'd be invincible if they could control them and F/Aegon struck me as someone who'd appreciate that symbolism of conquering Westeros with three full grown dragons. (I suppose he'd be missing a second wife though... Ah well, can't win 'em all.)
- Location
- Underground
If they kill Robb there is a 100,000+ strong army that will fall on them like the wrath of all the gods.
And it's not like the meeting is in their territory. It's at a neutral location closer to our camp.
[X] Accept the truce. You will meet with this King Aegon
Let's hear them out. If they're looking to surrender I want their elephants.
[X] Accept the truce. You will meet with this King Aegon
- Location
- Asia
There be dragons, ya knaves !!
[X] Accept the truce. You will meet with this King Aegon
- Location
- Underground
This isn't' Daeron the Young, guys...he was within enemy territory. The Dornish could get away with defying the flag of truce under those circumstances.
That wouldn't fly here. If they break the truce the Golden Company/Aegon have nowhere to go and would be wiped out. Even if they succeeded in assassinating Robb it's suicide.
Whatever they intend to offer, they must think it will give them a chance at surviving. Aren't you the least bit curious about what it is?
That wouldn't fly here. If they break the truce the Golden Company/Aegon have nowhere to go and would be wiped out. Even if they succeeded in assassinating Robb it's suicide.
Whatever they intend to offer, they must think it will give them a chance at surviving. Aren't you the least bit curious about what it is?
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I suppose if needs must, we can be the Dornish lords murdering the dragonking during the parlay, should he have dragons.
Ultimatum
The Cruel
- Location
- King's Landing
[X] Decline the truce. You're here to kill dragons and eat pigeon pie. And you're all out of fucking pigeons.
We don't need to accept the truce because it really doesn't give us anything and Aegon is nothing but a threat to our rule.
That's a double no-no so pragmatism and common sense dictate we shouldn't do it.
We don't need to accept the truce because it really doesn't give us anything and Aegon is nothing but a threat to our rule.
That's a double no-no so pragmatism and common sense dictate we shouldn't do it.
Walpurgis Knight
Guardian of Folkvang
- Location
- Union of Cascadian Socialist Republics (UCSR)
Declining the truce could be a rash move. We don't know what F/Aegon has that makes him think a truce could be tenable. He could have captured someone important; someone we wouldn't want to lose. If we just attack we won't know until it's too late. I'd like to know the players' hands before we go all in.
- Location
- Saskatoon
[X] Accept the truce. You will meet with this King Aegon.
This is the older brother of Jon. (or so it seems) a relative by proxy (by his own claim) to refuse a temporary truce is to be labeled as a hot-blooded kinslayer - lustful for blood even when the possibility of saving the lives of your own men exists.
Think about it guys; I know the second vote sounds cool but it's not the right one!
This is the older brother of Jon. (or so it seems) a relative by proxy (by his own claim) to refuse a temporary truce is to be labeled as a hot-blooded kinslayer - lustful for blood even when the possibility of saving the lives of your own men exists.
Think about it guys; I know the second vote sounds cool but it's not the right one!
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- Location
- Europe
If he had captured someone, he would've said so with his messenger. This is a desperate attempt to grasp at straws by a man that knows he's going to die if he doesn't do something. Trying to assassinate Robb would be stupid but desperate men have done stupider things. I don't want to risk it.
Walpurgis Knight
Guardian of Folkvang
- Location
- Union of Cascadian Socialist Republics (UCSR)
Would he have? I admit that would be the smart thing to do but if you think he's stupid enough to assassinate Robb under a banner of truce, then he might be stupid enough to reveal a hostage he has at the parley for dramatic effect. A parley is simply pro forma in Westeros. A surprise attack before or after the parley or an assassination attempt in the night (a la Stannis) is far more likely than an overt attack under a banner of truce. Besides, it will occur closer to our lines, rendering an escape on his part very difficult.
Although Aegon's parentage is in question, he could very well be Robb's kin through Jon and not exhausting every option for peace before the battle could stain Robb in the eyes of the Realm as a kinslayer. If the two sides can't reach an agreement and Aegon is slain anyway, then that's generally considered okay but denying a truce outright won't be seen well even if the end result is the same. This possible relationship isn't well known but the prospect will occur to Robb and IC, I think he'd go speak to F/Aegon first.
Overall, I think the risk of treachery is small enough that we can risk listening to what this King Aegon has to say.
- Location
- Mists of Albion
No one else aside from the Starks know of Jon as Rhaegar son, not only that but Lysa Tully got away with trying to kill us via a war without being called a Kinslayer and she is much more closely linked to us.