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What if every human that has ever died ( including Historical figures) to 10,000 BC to 2018 all of sudden get transported to Jan 1, 2019?

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First off, a lot of the reason life expectancy was so low was not people could reach their 60 or so, it was infant mortality. So screaming babies end up absolutely everywhere. So many that they'd coat areas and a lot of them would end up in in random caves. Most of those are just going to starve, die of exposure, or end up eaten by random wild life. so massive waste of life there.

The scenario drops them where they consider their territory (social constructs like countries are mostly not a thing for millennia worth of them, just town sized areas or massive random stretches of land they randomly lived in. Nomadic tribes are going to be spread out everywhere. They are just going to be scattered to the winds and likely even more unable to find random people that vaguely speak the same language.
Then there is the massive issue of... settled lands under the five great lakes, what is now a reservoir, the now desert lands of the once lush middle east (thank you spiteful Romans) and the now desert lands of western China (thank you communist party) and all the random shifting forests locations from over time. Massive amounts of misplaced environs for everyone. Its worse as you come from farther back in time.

Many, many, many of the oldest time period population will die of suddenly having their home land suffering from massive shifts in sea level. Considering how many people have historically flocked to large water sources and shore lines to live near and how underwater much of that coast land is now... most of the oldest population is going to end up drowning... or stuffed onto what use to be mountain tops or maybe beaches. All those land bridges from the ice age are also drowning fields. There are also large bodies of water for modern infrastructure that were valley's and towns without the last century or so.

Besides those are the 'and then there was traffic' accidents everywhere. Just now its a highway issues.

Moving on from the massive wrong place in the wrong time and abandoned infants and toddlers issues you have the major question of... what is everyone wearing. Until very recently (in terms of the qualified time periods) everyone was armed and very, very wary of strangers. So either lots and lots are going to die of exposure or lots and lots die from suddenly armed and armored hoards of people with wildly different ethics absolutely everywhere.

So North America(which will still has tribes of crazy murder hobos everywhere, even if they're are also lots of saner tribes) and Australia are the largest land masses with the fewest people historically so probably the most intact by the end of the first month. Europe is utterly screwed. Too many wildly different cultures and such existent at once. Africa is more like Africa is Africa culturally with less free stuff from other countries meaning back to endless slaughter and stupidity. They've run on the idea of 'have yes many kids and which ever ones survives, survives' for too long. Without the pity resources Africa has a massive die off and goes back to business as historically usual within a very, very ugly year. Honestly the combination of the Tsetse fly belt and how crap South Africa was before the white man came and flipped over the top hundred feet of soil mean a lot less random people popping into existence. Asia is going to eat random empires and armies combined with giant tribes of murder hobos. Some on horse back.

Seriously after the first few days of madness and random slaughter Europe is going to be unrecognizable. The British isles may survive as a liberal democracy if they blow the Chunnel, but Ireland is probably real tribal, real fast. England could maybe get by if they can get the Romans to agree to maintain order over the crazies everywhere... but that is iffy and that is before the refugees from the mainland try to cross over to them.
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In short, lots and lots of drowning happens and stupid amounts of dead toddlers and below in a few days... society is most over run by randoms without a connection to anything and an axe to grind. Modern societies only large scale hope is they all came back buck neked. Everyone alive before hand suddenly wishes they were on a long tour of duty on a nuclear submarine.

Also things massively change if it wasn't a one time respawn.
 
My 2 cents that's probably not too unique, massive amounts of overpopulation, reimmergence of several diseases/illnesses that have mostly gone away do to modern vaccine treatment has mostly made a non issue, ALOT of chaos and confusion, probably a few problematic ideologies being brought back, but many great thinkers, philosophers, scientists, musicians, and some who may have had their rime on earth shortened prematurely. Loved ones being returned, the wronged being able to accuse the ones that wronged them and all of the opportunities and problems 5hat arise with people
 
Sandy River DL said:
Oda Nobunaga teams up with Yashua ben Yoseph to rally the few survivors and rebuild the world, while hopefully finding a way to ensure this never happens again.

More seriously, this is, surprisingly, not as bad as it first appears to be. This is 'only' every deceased human for 12,000 years returning from the grave, or an estimated 4 billion. This results in there being 11.7 billion people on Earth, which is bad but not an unmitigated disaster if we all work togeth- we're screwed barring Yashua ben Yoseph pulling off something BIG, assuming He shows up.
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I think you mean Samuel Clements builds a riverboat.
 
The ideal would probably to have (people that world food production can support - current population) people turn up on Jan 1 each year.

If you randomly select people to be returned, weighted by age, it seems likely that infants and children would predominate.

Having lots of infants turn up in first world nations on Jan 1 every year, ideally in maternity wards, up to that nation's limits on ability to feed them, I suspect, would be entirely sustainable on an ongoing basis.

One of the side effects of having more people around is an increase in the amount of food you're able to grow; the amount of food grown per unit area increases if you have more people to care for a fixed plot of land, up to a relatively high limit, potentially more so with the use of hydroponics.

Providing things don't collapse, I'd imagine that you'd end up with arcologies, with local food production, in fairly short order, if only to allow population density to continue to increase.
 
Everybody dies of thirst, hunger or exposure. We do not have the spare resources, ability nor infrastructure to provide for that many additional people. Although we're going to try. This will result in our infrastructure collapsing and never recovering.

We do not have the ability to extract and distribute an order of magnitude more potable water than we currently do. Even with pumps and pipes available we'll drain reservoirs and drop the water table in short order, resulting in no water for anyone in the region. Including most of the plant life. Which results in desertification and the loss of agricultural lands.
 
Immenent societal collapse as large numbers of people with drastically different social values appear in the same place. Within hours, widespread riots happen almost everywhere leading to a response from police and military that is quickly turned into full scale war in the streets as weaponry gets into the hands of rebels, radicals, etc who have a bone to pick with the current nation that occupies "their" land.
 
Many modern nations go into lockdown for several days as police and armed forces are forced to go into a gun fueled rampage to clean up the sudden influx of screaming zombies. Nations with out strategic reserves of petrol and bulldozers suffer gigadeath events due to plague breaking out as they desperately try to build mass graves as quickly as possible.

India and China turn into virtual wastelands over the course of a few weeks with a few enclaves of already bunkered oligarchs emerging to claim the countries as their own.

Large swaths of Africa and the middle east notice almost no change as the majority of the returnees appear deep in the desert far from where modern cities have moved to avoid desertification.

Some nations in south America might not even notice the event, population density pre industrial revolution in the current pop centers was fairly low. Some groups might be very confused at appearing in the middle of where their farms should be only to find centuries of untouched forests.

So, TLDR, world descends into iron handed tyranny as those with the means to do so use the scenario to take power.
 
Necratoid said:
First off, a lot of the reason life expectancy was so low was not people could reach their 60 or so, it was infant mortality. So screaming babies end up absolutely everywhere. So many that they'd coat areas and a lot of them would end up in in random caves. Most of those are just going to starve, die of exposure, or end up eaten by random wild life. so massive waste of life there.

The scenario drops them where they consider their territory (social constructs like countries are mostly not a thing for millennia worth of them, just town sized areas or massive random stretches of land they randomly lived in. Nomadic tribes are going to be spread out everywhere. They are just going to be scattered to the winds and likely even more unable to find random people that vaguely speak the same language.
Then there is the massive issue of... settled lands under the five great lakes, what is now a reservoir, the now desert lands of the once lush middle east (thank you spiteful Romans) and the now desert lands of western China (thank you communist party) and all the random shifting forests locations from over time. Massive amounts of misplaced environs for everyone. Its worse as you come from farther back in time.

Many, many, many of the oldest time period population will die of suddenly having their home land suffering from massive shifts in sea level. Considering how many people have historically flocked to large water sources and shore lines to live near and how underwater much of that coast land is now... most of the oldest population is going to end up drowning... or stuffed onto what use to be mountain tops or maybe beaches. All those land bridges from the ice age are also drowning fields. There are also large bodies of water for modern infrastructure that were valley's and towns without the last century or so.

Besides those are the 'and then there was traffic' accidents everywhere. Just now its a highway issues.

Moving on from the massive wrong place in the wrong time and abandoned infants and toddlers issues you have the major question of... what is everyone wearing. Until very recently (in terms of the qualified time periods) everyone was armed and very, very wary of strangers. So either lots and lots are going to die of exposure or lots and lots die from suddenly armed and armored hoards of people with wildly different ethics absolutely everywhere.

So North America(which will still has tribes of crazy murder hobos everywhere, even if they're are also lots of saner tribes) and Australia are the largest land masses with the fewest people historically so probably the most intact by the end of the first month. Europe is utterly screwed. Too many wildly different cultures and such existent at once. Africa is more like Africa is Africa culturally with less free stuff from other countries meaning back to endless slaughter and stupidity. They've run on the idea of 'have yes many kids and which ever ones survives, survives' for too long. Without the pity resources Africa has a massive die off and goes back to business as historically usual within a very, very ugly year. Honestly the combination of the Tsetse fly belt and how crap South Africa was before the white man came and flipped over the top hundred feet of soil mean a lot less random people popping into existence. Asia is going to eat random empires and armies combined with giant tribes of murder hobos. Some on horse back.

Seriously after the first few days of madness and random slaughter Europe is going to be unrecognizable. The British isles may survive as a liberal democracy if they blow the Chunnel, but Ireland is probably real tribal, real fast. England could maybe get by if they can get the Romans to agree to maintain order over the crazies everywhere... but that is iffy and that is before the refugees from the mainland try to cross over to them.
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In short, lots and lots of drowning happens and stupid amounts of dead toddlers and below in a few days... society is most over run by randoms without a connection to anything and an axe to grind. Modern societies only large scale hope is they all came back buck neked. Everyone alive before hand suddenly wishes they were on a long tour of duty on a nuclear submarine.

Also things massively change if it wasn't a one time respawn.
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You forgot about Siberia. Throughout its history, Siberia has been very sparsely populated. The mass migration of Russians to Siberia began only under Stalin. And after the collapse of the Soviet Union, there is a mass exodus of residents, entire military forts, cities and villages are empty or half empty, ready-made housing and infrastructure. Many of the resurrected have the skills to survive when resources are scarce. The natives have long been sedentary, the appearance of the ancestors of the natives will not hurt anyone.

Very soon, the Siberian Communist Union will fight for world domination with the Canadian Democratic Republic.
 
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TriassicDino said:
First lets clear something up any person that has nation or place they were ether born in and or identify with would be transported to that nation or place. For example, while Hitler was born an Austrian due to being born at the his time Austria he considered himself a German which means he would be transported to random place in modern Germany, a other example is if an Aztec gets transported to the modern day then he transported to any random place in Central America were the Aztec civilization used to be, and if a person lived in a stateless society or even a tribe like society would simply be transported to whatever place he used to call home. When comes to age everyone no matter what era would be 20 years old or younger even if that person died from old age they would be simply back as 20 year old's or younger if they died young but have all of the experience before they died. Finally, everyone no matter what era would have no diseases like smallpox and all of the sudden would have developed a strong immune system which means most would not die from the common cold.
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mass die off in the 1st 12 minutes ramping up over the next two weeks, likely total societal collapse, potential climate shift due to the necrotic biomatter
 
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Have a few choice words with an ancestor of mine who shot a president, among other things. None of which involve mass death because holy shit y'all misanthropes.
 
Mass death will happen as there are no where near enough resources for everyone. people will turn to fighting one another for whatever scrap is left and then after a while when enough human have die and world population return to sustainable level the world will slowly recover.
 
"Holy shit y'all misanthropes" just gets repeated at this point, mate.
 
I doubt most of these historical figures will make any political differences besides maybe leading an impromptu army to take over whatever country they landed in. You are talking about billions of people speaking extinct or incredibly obscure languages and dialects that might not even have a written component. Even people who are technically speaking the same language will have major communication issues due to how languages evolve. Any Englishman who died more than 300 years ago will have serious issues communicating with a modern English speaker.
 
ok, so ignoring the rapant in thread racism, how do we salvage this scenario?
because i doubt mass death was what the OP had in mind or why they thought this could be an interesting question to ask.

so how do we change the question so we get an answer that isnt mass death?

what if every person who had ever lived/ died found themselves in a super detailed simulation of earth? maybe the sim has instances of different physical world states from different periods intime (sans the people). like some sort of mmo ancestor sim. and like, people could travel between instances, so thier house would exist and not be underwater or built over, but they could still interact with people from other times.

or maybe all the dead people do come back to our time but they are intransient and dont need food or water or physical room. thier just out and about being visual and audio clutter.

a future earth could house 100 billion living humans with the right infracture, but our current system/ technology is looking at like 20 billion tops, and thats with social changes to address massively inequitable distribution and the hyper consumption of the late 1900s that is the main culprit for the current climate crisis.

but yeah, i think the meat of this scenario is having people from different eras talk. to get reactions to how things changed through the millenia- to get insight into past culture that just wouldnt otherwise be possible without some different kind of magic/ clarktech.

personally, my own biases do make a social response more interesting than an administrative one. cause then its just "what if a mountain of people biomass just showed up with no social ties to the existing people" that sounds like a xkcd/ spherical cow type problem. the specification of which humans and from wherr nolonger matter.

i know this thread is a year old but it seems wasteful to make a new thread when wierdhistory is such a small part of this site.
 
An interesting variation of this I thought of, is what happens if this is done in a way to avoid the obvious pitfalls? Say, we have a ROB willing to put in some effort, selectively resurrecting people over a longer period of time, in a way that it's possible to avoid them immediately dying, including maybe giving said people some vaccination against modern diseases? While we're at it, we can give them license to also resurrect extinct animals, and maybe even buildings, landforms, and the like that have been described from the period in question. So, they might resurrect an entire indian tribe of plains indians and the buffalo they relied upon, all at once, in a suitably empty and approximately appropriately located bit of the interior US.

Now, obviously this requires a lot of judgement calls, so it's hard to make predictions for without just sitting down and writing a story about it... But I do think there are some things we can say. Russia and the US both seem like they have plenty of tracts of open space where such arrivals could be located, while Europe seems much too densely populated for them to easily fit in, and thus could expect to receive fewer?

Thus, the US and Russia will both have to learn how to deal with these new arrivals on a larger scale, which for the US at least means relitigating their entire history with the american indians. And possibly receiving a variety of confused colonial americans too. Previously expelled Acadians, for example, suddenly reappearing with their entire villages in the more lightly populated parts of US and canada would probably cause quite a stir. Gonna make property ownership a really contentious issue for a while.
 
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Hannibal9817 said:
Oh, definitely a lot of people starve. That makes me think about if there would be a push to colonize the moon or mars? Some sort of effort to spread humanity out because the land is gonna be a huge issue none of the downtimers will own any land and they'll probably be a lot of conflict from previous owners.
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Colonizing anything in space is on a timeframe of literal years, and more likely decades. I'd imagine a push to terraform the Sahara and other deserts of the world more likely.
lotsofawsome said:
My 2 cents that's probably not too unique, massive amounts of overpopulation, reimmergence of several diseases/illnesses that have mostly gone away do to modern vaccine treatment has mostly made a non issue, ALOT of chaos and confusion, probably a few problematic ideologies being brought back, but many great thinkers, philosophers, scientists, musicians, and some who may have had their rime on earth shortened prematurely. Loved ones being returned, the wronged being able to accuse the ones that wronged them and all of the opportunities and problems 5hat arise with people
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The problem with great non-artists returning is that knowledge changes. If Paracasious returns, he's not going to write new treatises on medicine because he doesn't have any modern education regarding disease. The same goes for Pythagoras not revolutionizing math or even something as recent as Einstein having the same impact in physics as he did the first time around.
 
There was a book with a premise sort of like this, Riverworld. Except everyone gets resurrected on another planet, there's automatic food dispensers, and if you die you just respawn on another part of the planet. Oh, and there's no metal deposits so everyone's just wandering around figuring out how to kill each other with rocks and bamboo.
 
This is all very interesting but it should probably be in either the creative discussion, or alternate history threads as opposed to user fiction
 
ScottishMongol said:
There was a book with a premise sort of like this, Riverworld. Except everyone gets resurrected on another planet, there's automatic food dispensers, and if you die you just respawn on another part of the planet. Oh, and there's no metal deposits so everyone's just wandering around figuring out how to kill each other with rocks and bamboo.
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Couldn't iron be extracted from blood and how bad were the iron deficiencies?
 
A lot of death, gotta remember culturally how different we are to ye olden days. Gonna be a whole lot of whole sale murder, pillaging and rape unfortunately.
If the dead reappear in the areas they died in then most of the world will likely collapse due to this with only newer modern society's having a real chance like the USA or Australia due to population disparity of the old days vs the new and current cultural changes though there still will be death thanks to decease and cultural misunderstanding.
Good example is Russia, now you have both Stalin and Lenin with all there followers running a muck, or Mongolia with the great khan who you know, managed to kill about 11% of the worlds population (about 40mil total), let alone people like Hitler
Then there all the "God given right I am a Royal" kind, religious figures that's gonna turn the middle east into WW3 etc
Then add starvation, religion, supply chains, disease, etc....

Yeh my prediction is we will actually manage a lower population then we have now....
 
Ugh the everyone dies scenario is boring. How about they get a decade of food/temporary shelter so we can get to the fun stuff.

How overcrowded would the world be?
 
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