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King Tharassian said:
Paladins tend to be good against the living dead, yes, but there's that and then there's Tirion "I took a vacation like Jarod" ex Machina.
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Jared from Subway?

As for the Blood Elves. Do people actually know that they're demonic-aligned at this point. Is that even true for the ones in Azeroth. Most of them had no business with Illidan or the Naga and were just recieving orders from their faraway Prince.
 
Orwelans III said:
Jared from Subway?

As for the Blood Elves. Do people actually know that they're demonic-aligned at this point. Is that even true for the ones in Azeroth. Most of them had no business with Illidan or the Naga and were just recieving orders from their faraway Prince.
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Jarod Shadowsong.

It's likely a state secret if anything. We know the split has already occurred, but I don't know when the rest of Azeroth found out about the fel consumption.
 
Orwelans III said:
Jared from Subway?

As for the Blood Elves. Do people actually know that they're demonic-aligned at this point. Is that even true for the ones in Azeroth. Most of them had no business with Illidan or the Naga and were just recieving orders from their faraway Prince.
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Also, the BE's on Azeroth aren't either, and what has happened to those in Outland is unknown at this time I think.
 
Also, I wanna call out the ridiculous notion that 90 percent of the High Elven race was killed by Arthas. In the context of this game this would've given them a 20 armies strong military before the Third War.

With only 1.5% of the race's pre-war numbers, Kael is dominating around Outland (though in the game he's still on Illidan's side since the loss to the Scourge transpired not so long ago). Dominating the Dranei who've been inhabiting it for centuries. The only major losses Kael's forces suffered in Outland were defectors to the Na'aru and those who stayed loyal to Illidan. And even with those he's able to resist Illidan's Demon/Naga/Orc/Demon Hunter/Broken army and hold some of the most important places in the realm.
 
Orwelans III said:
Also, I wanna call out the ridiculous notion that 90 percent of the High Elven race was killed by Arthas. In the context of this game this would've given them a 20 armies strong military before the Third War.

With only 1.5% of the race's pre-war numbers, Kael is dominating around Outland (though in the game he's still on Illidan's side since the loss to the Scourge transpired not so long ago). Dominating the Dranei who've been inhabiting it for centuries. The only major losses Kael's forces suffered in Outland were defectors to the Na'aru and those who stayed loyal to Illidan. And even with those he's able to resist Illidan's Demon/Naga/Orc/Demon Hunter/Broken army and hold some of the most important places in the realm.
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Erm, we don't actually know what '1 army' stands for in terms of numbers. Ceslas has said that population sizes in theworld are whack.
 
Orwelans III said:
Also, I wanna call out the ridiculous notion that 90 percent of the High Elven race was killed by Arthas. In the context of this game this would've given them a 20 armies strong military before the Third War.
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I'm pretty sure that the Blood Elves are far more militarized than the High Elves were. By what I recall, outside of the Rangers, they were quite decadent as a whole. Compared to that? The current Blood Elves are survivors, becoming soldiers out of necessity.
 
Orwelans III said:
Also, I wanna call out the ridiculous notion that 90 percent of the High Elven race was killed by Arthas. In the context of this game this would've given them a 20 armies strong military before the Third War.

With only 1.5% of the race's pre-war numbers, Kael is dominating around Outland (though in the game he's still on Illidan's side since the loss to the Scourge transpired not so long ago). Dominating the Dranei who've been inhabiting it for centuries. The only major losses Kael's forces suffered in Outland were defectors to the Na'aru and those who stayed loyal to Illidan. And even with those he's able to resist Illidan's Demon/Naga/Orc/Demon Hunter/Broken army and hold some of the most important places in the realm.
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Except I'm pretty sure that.... Isn't the ninety percent canon?

And armies are really small compared to overall population. Most of us are incredibly militarized compared to normal, and I imagine that Lordaeron prior to the Scourge didn't have more than ten armies at most.
 
Ceslas said:
Orwelans III, I was simply repeating the canonical figure. It doesn't really matter in terms of gameplay.
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King Tharassian said:
Except I'm pretty sure that.... Isn't the ninety percent canon?
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I know (unless it was mentioned in a non-canon source like the RPG) but this is the only mention of population percentages that I know of and it's so ridiculous.


Magnive said:
The current Blood Elves are survivors, becoming soldiers out of necessity.
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So are the Fel Orcs and Velen and Kurama's forces.
 
mmmm I always interpreted it as 90% of the Elves living in Quel'thalas itself at the specific time died off.... Given the fact that around 20-30% of their population tends to live in Dalaran and another 2-5% (depending on things) are on the move elsewhere? its probs only about 55-70% of their race that was wiped out....

Then the rest (which were some of the most adventurous and militaristic) returned and boosted the ones left over add in losses taken up to now (probs leaving them at 25-40% of pre-scourge population) and then the fact that only about half their population lives in Quel'thelas still (so about 12.5-20%) Then consider the fact they became FAR more militaristic than they were and the armies sound about right... especially since the ones still in Azeroth are the least adventurous and weakest of the race.
 
Magnive said:
Even though Lord Admiral Daelin Proudmoore is dead, his presence still lingers in many forms, with one of these being the soldiers holed up in Tiragarde Keep. Furthermore, part of the Theramorean navy is composed of… borrowed Kul Tiras warships. And finally, the corpse of the Lord Admiral is still there. Tandred intends to rectify these three issues in the intent of appearing the Kul Tiran public.

He will travel to Tiragarde Keep and order the soldiers there to pack up and return with him to Theramore, where they will board the no-longer-borrowed Kul Tiran ships and sail them home. To ensure that the soldiers gain no silly ideas about turning back and continuing their fight after setting sail - now with warships at hand - Tandred will charge them to return Daelin's corpse, stressing that he will personally hunt down every last one of them if they get his father's corpse lost or even destroyed by risking the ships.
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Orwelans III said:
Major Action 3: The Humans of Kul Tiras still stuck in Durotan after their conflict with the Horde are to be taken away from Orcish lands with approval from their Kingdom. Kul Tiran traders and explorers are invited to come help the Kaldorei efforts in Kalimdor.

Half the Kaldorei navy (with 0.5 of an army) is to move towards the remaining Kul Tiran outpost of Tiragarde.
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So are we gonna have to RP these two fleets meeting up? @Ceslas
 
Orwelans III said:
So are we gonna have to RP these two fleets meeting up? @Ceslas
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Probably not, as my travel time will be Tandred being teleported from Theramore to Tiragarda Keep, having the soldiers march back to Theramore, where they board the Kul Tiras ships Jaina "borrowed", whereas yours will probably be at least a few weeks getting from Darnassus to the area.
 
On the other hand you could also go and kill each other over easily solved missunderstandings.
I mean I have no problem with that being neutral and all that and just walking over the battlefields afterwards for a snack.
 
in light of Stormwinds treatment of its working class, its abandonment of Lordaeron to the Scourge after everything they did for them and their lack of commitment to any other Alliance endevours Ironforge is calling a council and vote on Stormwinds continued membership in the Alliance.
 
san said:
in light of Stormwinds treatment of its working class, its abandonment of Lordaeron to the Scourge after everything they did for them and their lack of commitment to any other Alliance endevours Ironforge is calling a council and vote on Stormwinds continued membership in the Alliance.
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...I'm just following what my advisors are telling me, given that I still know very little of the setting.
 
san said:
in light of Stormwinds treatment of its working class, its abandonment of Lordaeron to the Scourge after everything they did for them and their lack of commitment to any other Alliance endevours Ironforge is calingl a council and vote on Stormwinds continued membership in the Alliance.
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Not sure if all the information you're acting on here is public.
 
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