Introduction
Soulboundplayer
Brutal Kunnin' Smasha Cunning Brutes
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Welcome one and all, to the general thread for discussion about Warhammer: The Old World, as well as its predecessor and sequel Warhammer Fantasy Battles! My intent with this thread is to create a place for discussions about the wargames, the models, and the lore of the setting, separately and interweaved. I want to welcome anyone, whether you're a grizzled veteran with a copy of 1st edition Warhammer Fantasy in your shelf, someone who built a cool army during 8th edition you wanna get the chance to play again, an AoS or 40K player who wants to take a tour in the Old World, someone who got into the Warhammer universe by way of Total War or any of the other successful video game adaptations, or someone who just happened across Warhammer randomly and wanted to see what all the hubbub was about!
For those curious who stumble in here, or those new to the hobby, Warhammer Fantasy Battles was a miniatures fantasy wargame released by Games Workshop in 1983 and ended in 2015. It was succeeded by Warhammer Age of Sigmar, which takes place in another fantasy setting entirely but features some returning characters. There is also Warhammer 40,000 which released in 1987, again taking place in another setting entirely, this time as sci-fi. Warhammer: The Old World is a return to the world of Fantasy Battles in a more limited scope, set some 300 years or so in the past of Fantasy Battles. It hits store shelves on January 20th 2024, with preorders opening January 6th 2024.
As Warhammer: The Old World is a direct prequel to Warhammer Fantasy Battles, featuring events and some characters that have already been explored as historical happenings and facts influencing the world in the lore of Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and the fact that it is at least in some parts a revival of Fantasy Battles putting some of the armies from there back into production it only makes sense to me that this thread is open for both lines. Undoubtedly some new lore and new perspectives on events will be developed by GW, which will hopefully bring new appreciation for how events during WHFB were influenced by what happened in the settings past. There have been a couple threads on WHFB before here on Sufficient Velocity, but those haven't been active for years and given that The Old World seems likely to stay a living game for the near future I don't imagine they would fault me for bringing WHFB along here.
To start getting up to speed on Warhammer: The Old World, especially if you're a returning WHFB player, I would suggest checking out this Warcom article, where some of the developers talk about developing the game and also mention the unfortunate WHFB armies that will only get a pdf army list and explicitly will not be getting game rules, model ranges, receive any ongoing support, be legal for tournaments, and also not take part in the ongoing background narrative. At the end of the article is a list of previous articles for the game that talks about various facets you might find interesting, check them out!
Lastly, I want to take a moment encourage everyone who participates in the thread to be respectful and keep a good tone during discussions. I know by experience that discussions around Warhammer can become rather intense on occasion, as it is a hobby that many people invest a significant amount of time and effort in and thus are quite passionate about. Of course, differences of opinions and likes between members are inevitable when it comes to communities as large as Warhammer's, and I think that is very good as it allows us to engage with and take in perspectives on the games and related media that we may not have thought of ourselves. I only ask that we strive to do so in a fair and open manner, and that we perhaps take one more moment to breathe while in the midst of an exchange that is heating up to think about if our typed-out response is really helpful/productive/conducive to the discussion or if it will only inflame it. I also believe that each of the Warhammer settings has their own interesting points and that it is fine to enjoy each and any of them, so it would sadden me to see any discussions devolving into "AoS bad", "WHFB sucks", "40K is shit" etc. Not enjoying one of the settings and knowing what it is that makes it not click for you is perfectly fine, but it should mostly be possible to talk about such problems without talking down on those who enjoy the setting.
Hope this thread will serve you all well!
For those curious who stumble in here, or those new to the hobby, Warhammer Fantasy Battles was a miniatures fantasy wargame released by Games Workshop in 1983 and ended in 2015. It was succeeded by Warhammer Age of Sigmar, which takes place in another fantasy setting entirely but features some returning characters. There is also Warhammer 40,000 which released in 1987, again taking place in another setting entirely, this time as sci-fi. Warhammer: The Old World is a return to the world of Fantasy Battles in a more limited scope, set some 300 years or so in the past of Fantasy Battles. It hits store shelves on January 20th 2024, with preorders opening January 6th 2024.
As Warhammer: The Old World is a direct prequel to Warhammer Fantasy Battles, featuring events and some characters that have already been explored as historical happenings and facts influencing the world in the lore of Warhammer Fantasy Battles, and the fact that it is at least in some parts a revival of Fantasy Battles putting some of the armies from there back into production it only makes sense to me that this thread is open for both lines. Undoubtedly some new lore and new perspectives on events will be developed by GW, which will hopefully bring new appreciation for how events during WHFB were influenced by what happened in the settings past. There have been a couple threads on WHFB before here on Sufficient Velocity, but those haven't been active for years and given that The Old World seems likely to stay a living game for the near future I don't imagine they would fault me for bringing WHFB along here.
To start getting up to speed on Warhammer: The Old World, especially if you're a returning WHFB player, I would suggest checking out this Warcom article, where some of the developers talk about developing the game and also mention the unfortunate WHFB armies that will only get a pdf army list and explicitly will not be getting game rules, model ranges, receive any ongoing support, be legal for tournaments, and also not take part in the ongoing background narrative. At the end of the article is a list of previous articles for the game that talks about various facets you might find interesting, check them out!
Lastly, I want to take a moment encourage everyone who participates in the thread to be respectful and keep a good tone during discussions. I know by experience that discussions around Warhammer can become rather intense on occasion, as it is a hobby that many people invest a significant amount of time and effort in and thus are quite passionate about. Of course, differences of opinions and likes between members are inevitable when it comes to communities as large as Warhammer's, and I think that is very good as it allows us to engage with and take in perspectives on the games and related media that we may not have thought of ourselves. I only ask that we strive to do so in a fair and open manner, and that we perhaps take one more moment to breathe while in the midst of an exchange that is heating up to think about if our typed-out response is really helpful/productive/conducive to the discussion or if it will only inflame it. I also believe that each of the Warhammer settings has their own interesting points and that it is fine to enjoy each and any of them, so it would sadden me to see any discussions devolving into "AoS bad", "WHFB sucks", "40K is shit" etc. Not enjoying one of the settings and knowing what it is that makes it not click for you is perfectly fine, but it should mostly be possible to talk about such problems without talking down on those who enjoy the setting.
Hope this thread will serve you all well!
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