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Warcraft: The Rise of the Mag'har

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nightblade said:
You do realize that we have been talking to regular Draenei and Broken? They are not all broken. Some of them can use the light. You can tell by rereading Kaz's interlude thing with them.
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They live in Telaar. And acording to the lore thatmeans that they are the Kurenai, or at least since we are before "The burning crusade" they are the ones who will become the Kurenai.

Still, how do they have the numbers? They should not expect an increase in population for at least 3 more turns.
 
overmind said:
They live in Telaar. And acording to the lore thatmeans that they are the Kurenai, or at least since we are before "The burning crusade" they are the ones who will become the Kurenai.

Still, how do they have the numbers? They should not expect an increase in population for at least 3 more turns.
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There are regular Draenai there. It was mentioned when we first met them that some of them had been changed by the exposure to fel energy.
 
nightblade said:
There are regular Draenai there. It was mentioned when we first met them that some of them had been changed by the exposure to fel energy.
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Look, whatever, I'm saying that they still shouldn't have the numbers o create another settlement. We have been able to doit because our population is over 100, 000. They should not have enough people to make another settlement.
 
It's a tiny one. Not a big one.

You know that villages can be like, 500-1000 peeps right?

You guys have built one big settlement and resettled two other large ones.

They are making a smallish medium sized one.
 
torroar said:
It's a tiny one. Not a big one.

You know that villages can be like, 500-1000 peeps right?

You guys have built one big settlement and resettled two other large ones.

They are making a smallish medium sized one.
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Then it's highly unlikely to be a military staging ground; they lack the numbers to make it work. This seems to be an actual leap of faith here.
 
torroar said:
It's a tiny one. Not a big one.

You know that villages can be like, 500-1000 peeps right?

You guys have built one big settlement and resettled two other large ones.

They are making a smallish medium sized one.
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If it's that small. is there a chance for us to also make a sttlement next to theirs?

Perhaps if we can increase our level of relationship this turn?
 
The plateau itself isn't big enough for more than a trading post/small village to start with in WoW; I'm not sure how torroar has it set up.
 
overmind said:
We have to try at least. That territory is freaking important to control Nagrand. We must have at least a presence there.
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I know this is important to you, but these sort of things take time. I mean we went from hostile to neutral within a few turns so give a bit more time and we can probably become bro's and share the rent so to speak.
 
Theunderbolt said:
I know this is important to you, but these sort of things take time. I mean we went from hostile to neutral within a few turns so give a bit more time and we can probably become bro's and share the rent so to speak.
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But we need to do it before they get more people and there is no more space. If we don't control that territory, at least partially, then there is no way that we can control Nagrand. We would have to either move through Draenei territory, or move around it. We can't depend completely on the goodwill of a people who until just recenlt hated us with a passion for nearly exterminating their race and unleashing Ragnarok on the entire planet.

We need that presence there.
 
overmind said:
We have to try at least. That territory is freaking important to control Nagrand. We must have at least a presence there.
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Frankly that plateau is a suicidal place to build if it matches WoW as I've already pointed out more than once. It's an excellent place to build a trading post but it definitely isn't crucial to controlling the territory.

It's a plateau with four WOODEN BRIDGES to it and it's not even all that big as far as that goes... see my earlier post about supply lines etc. We have neither magic portals nor heavy fliers to bring in supplies should those flimsy wooden bridges get taken out.

Those bridges make it faster to travel from the top of Nagrand to the bottom; I'll give it that.
 
overmind said:
But we need to do it before they get more people and there is no more space. If we don't control that territory, at least partially, then there is no way that we can control Nagrand. We would have to either move through Draenei territory, or move around it. We can't depend completely on the goodwill of a people who until just recenlt hated us with a passion for nearly exterminating their race and unleashing Ragnarok on the entire planet.

We need that presence there.
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Once we start attacking the Boulder Fist in Nagrand we should we more of a chance establishing a sister settlement right next to them that can later merge since Draenai would be happy there are no Ogres running around that could cause trouble.

Right now the Draenai have lower numbers than even us once we have friendly relations with them we should be enter into an alliance that allows us free travel through all of Nagrand and the Draenai can provide there, while smaller, powerful militray units to support us.
 
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Yeah, having someone you want as an ally set up a small village in an important, central, location isn't really a bad thing.
Step 1) Become friends.
Step 2) Use that town as a shortcut to trade with your new friend.
Step 3) Set up a permanent trading center/depot near the town for ease of access for your own traders.
Step 4) Set up permanent shops/trading areas inside the town for ease of access to both parties traders.
Step 5) Revel in the closer ties between your people, because everyone loves smooth and profitable trade.
Step 6) Ask if you can hang out on a more permanent basis.
 
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Heretek said:
Yeah, having someone you want as an ally set up a small village in an important location isn't really a bad thing.
Step 1) Become friends.
Step 2) Use that town as a shortcut to trade with your new friend.
Step 3a) Set up a permanent trading center near the town for ease of access for your own traders.
Step 4) Set up permanent shops/trading areas inside the town for ease of access to both parties traders.
Step 5) Revel in the closer ties between your people, because everyone loves smooth and profitable trade.
Step 6) Ask if you can hang out on a more permanent basis.
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...That might actually work.
 
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