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- Denmark
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YEEAH! WHOOOOO!
Nah, Amelia had Force-
Wait, she didn't?
Wow, we really did forget to take Pattern Spheres.
That's amazing.
Visions of Bronze, Visions of Brass: Setting and Mechanics
- Thread starter linkhyrule5
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YEEAH! WHOOOOO!
Nah, Amelia had Force-
Wait, she didn't?
Wow, we really did forget to take Pattern Spheres.
That's amazing.
AKuz
Been Better
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- A Rising Tide of Horrors
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- She/Her
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I'm actually moderately likely to try revising Lucie a bit now that I have more knowledge of the system at least, being at the top of the "Right of First Refusal" list is better than I initially thought.
Especially if it turns out that more Pattern Spheres are needed by then.
Especially if it turns out that more Pattern Spheres are needed by then.
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Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Acantus, of course, had Life 2.
I believe he's the only character so far with dots in the Life sphere.
I'm actually hoping that the 2nd game, if and when it comes, is a disparates/traditions game. Or even a game where the character are all newly awakened in a city full of dangers but no mages..
I believe he's the only character so far with dots in the Life sphere.
I'm actually hoping that the 2nd game, if and when it comes, is a disparates/traditions game. Or even a game where the character are all newly awakened in a city full of dangers but no mages..
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I can roll with a Traditions game, but damn I want a 'crat game.
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- London, England
I was telling people to buy themselves some exomuscle but only one person listened
Hey, I don't have most of the books. I only knew exomuscle was a thing when @linkhyrule5 posted the rules, and there was about an hour between that and final selection. Which, uh, was around 6am when I was asleep.
I built James as a generalist because I am new to the game and because that way he could contribute regardless of the other team members. As it stands I'll probably need to throw some experience at buying other Spheres as we go - my paradigm would make Matter and to a lesser extent Forces solid picks (structural analysis go), but a lot depends on what these mysterious other two players end up running.
Azrael
Sakura Saber
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- Throne of Heroes
...Really?
Octavia, being built around the concept of 'Heal Good' had Life 3.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
@linkhyrule5 can we still edit our characters?
If so, my advice is as follows;
@NonSequtur get exomuscle. It's good. Really good. Better for the price than your current Enhancements.
@Maugan Ra get exomuscle, as above. Also, I recommend that you change your spheres. I already have Mind and PU covered, so you having it too is extraneous. I'd recommend changing your favored to Entropy, and changing Mind and PU to Forces and Time. Data could probably be changed, as you seem to be up close and personal rather than a remote caster.
If so, my advice is as follows;
@NonSequtur get exomuscle. It's good. Really good. Better for the price than your current Enhancements.
@Maugan Ra get exomuscle, as above. Also, I recommend that you change your spheres. I already have Mind and PU covered, so you having it too is extraneous. I'd recommend changing your favored to Entropy, and changing Mind and PU to Forces and Time. Data could probably be changed, as you seem to be up close and personal rather than a remote caster.
NonSequtur
a body
Doesn't give me 1 HL/turn Regen though. If I had Enhancement 6 I could grab exomuscle, nanotech integration and a physical structure enhancement and have two points left over for some other random thing, but that'd chew up a hilarious amount of points and also hit me with hilarious amounts of paradox.
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Since that would involve entirely rewriting my character and I'm broadly happy with where I am now, I don't really see why I should.
I'm keeping Mind at the very least, since it has serious applications in social enhancement and it represents the character I want to play. I might potentially switch Primal Utility to something else, if permitted, but that's about the only sphere I'm not entirely sure about.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
But it does give you countermagic. And if you just got self-healing on its own (without the full nanotech integration) it would probably be *fails at math and system* @linkhyrule5 help me out here, it's a Life 2 procedure. Which would *probably* fit within your current budget, with room to spare. How much is Nanotech integration anyways?
For one thing Linkhyrule5 is using the Data as Mind hack, so it's kind of pointless to have both. For another thing you're really wimpy as a fite-mage, as you don't really have any of the fite-spheres (Forces Life Entropy and Time). (I mean, you have Entropy 2, but that's not really enough). And we have an overabundance of Mind users.
Edit: also not seeing how it would require you to rewrite your character concept.
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By 'overabundance' you mean two, right? Because James and Susan are the only characters with Mind.
Beyond that... James isn't a 'fite mage'. He's an NWO Operative. The fact that his magic is subtle, discreet and relatively poor at inflicting direct damage is sort of the point. If I wanted to be going toe-to-toe with reality deviants and kicking arse with combat-focused magic I would have submitted an Iterator.
I also haven't seen any evidence that Mind and Data are the same. That doesn't even make sense, since Data is a correspondence analogue.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Hillary's going to get it too, as she has it favored.
NWO aren't bad at inflicting direct damage. They can grab Forces, Entropy, Time and Life with the best of them. In fact they make really good combat mages, as they tend to have a large number of low spheres, which can be pretty terrifying.
We're using this version of Data, which can effect minds; minds are just data after all. If you want correspondence you should just get Correspondence.
NonSequtur
a body
At a guess it's 4-6 dots for the healing, 1-3 dots for the immunity and 1 dot each for the stamina points. Also, health levels are worth 1 dot, going by how PSEs give 1 physical and 1 health level for 2 dots.
Exomuscle would therefore have 10 points just in its HL and physical boosts, before getting into the armour or countermagic. At a guess, each extra point of paradox reduces the cost by 2, so there's another 6 points distributed between the countermagic and armour.
On the other hand, if that's how it's built, exoskeleton is pretty undercosted because it adds 3 physical dots, 6 armour and 2 countermagic over exomuscle for only 4 points more cost.
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Which is why it's awesome.
So you can afford Exomuscle and the Self-healing part of nanotech integration? Have I convinced you to go for it?
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Hillary has a distinct character point centered around the fact that she doesn't have any dots in Mind despite it being her favoured sphere. She doesn't count.
I didn't realize we were using that version of Data. Even so, I'm keeping Mind, because there's a lot that Mind can do which Data cannot manage. I probably will swap out Primal Utility, though, since that Data tree allows me to track groups and organizations anyway.
I'll switch my dot of PU into a dot of... let's say Matter, because being able to analyze structures and their weaknesses is always useful. Is that acceptable @linkhyrule5?
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Yay for one pattern sphere dot.
On another note, who's going to be the leader of our Construct? I'm thinking that it should be either me, for my trans-human intellect, or Hillary, for her status.
Exomuscle is also ItX tech-generally something Progenitors won't be reliant on or like making heavy use of. It's also heavy obvious cyborg augmentation-I suggested it for @AKuz because Blackwell was originally very heavily augmented.
Progenitor heavies can still be pretty impressive though. Just need the right xenografts.
NonSequtur
a body
Nah, you've gotten me thinking about the conversion rates between permadox, exp and attributes and reminded me how much I loathe complicated chargen systems.
Edit: I think ideally you'd be able to just buy these things with freebie points, and there's just a way to trade paradox for a certain number of freebie points, with a) paradigmatic restrictions on what you can buy b) you can't buy genius/spheres/enlightenment and c) some sort of vulnerability that people can exploit to disable them.
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notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
Well given the character it'd probably be re-fluffed into xenografts.
Ah well, I'll drop it then.
I would be very, very leery about refluffing 'signature' bits of augmentation like full conversion cyborgs or exomuscle as a Technocracy player. It blurs the boundaries between Traditions in a bad way and ignores paradigm incompatibility as being a huge deal. Of course I'm not running the game but do take it as you will.
The Progenitor method of becoming an ass-beater generally involves either rapid regen and more subtlety than running around as a heavy-spec cyborg with a gatling gun or like, a huge investment in xenografts, which can lead to absolutely ludicrous capabilities at equivalent and highly inconvenient cost.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
@linkhyrule5 your two rl friends are going to be in group 1, right? Any idea what concept/spheres they're going for?
ChineseDrone
Totally depraved
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I actually gave Hill one dot of Mind later on since having the Cog buff would almost certainly be something she'd need in Ivory Tower, but yeah as an Operative you should definitely keep dots there. I think going for 1-2 dots of Forces would probably be more useful for a Grey Suit than Matter, though, since you can use it to enhance your guns and what not