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UNIVEEEEERSE!!! (-al Gundam idea and discussion thread)

Yeah this is not that kind of streamer. Just a sweaty FPS gamer unfamiliar with gundam.
 
ZeroXSEED said:
Yeah this is not that kind of streamer. Just a sweaty FPS gamer unfamiliar with gundam.
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If they maintain social media accounts, they could have asked some questions in a community post or something. Done a few polls here and there. A lot of streamers maintain social media accounts to help draw their audience so why wouldn't this person do that?
 
Hard to say. She has an instagram that she post fashion photos on but not actively promote her channel and vice versa. It's a weird situation where women knew her for fashion modeling and men knew her for streaming.
Also, no public twitter either.

If she just grab something random highly likely it might come from WfM (and I'm not familiar with that one)
 
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Ultimate Casual Pick is going to be either a popular mook (Zaku or Leo in the US, tbh) or an EXTREMELY popular main character suit (Strike, Wing, maybe OG if she does five seconds of research or watched Toonami specifically in 2000, assuming US).

Then again if it's a system assigned thing she doesn't necessarily have to have picked with any intention...I'm thinking one of the more tacticool OYW suits like a Zaku variant or a GM Sniper for that Battlefield 1942 feel.
 
Yeah, her second suit would be absolutely optimized for that FPS glazing, which is GM Spartan. I need one for the flashback when she's still super newbie.
 
Super newb and WfM means probably the Aerial, right? Or, if you want something a bit more specc'd for her specialties, the Pharact has a sniper rifle style setup so a straight build of that would be a pretty easy thing.
 
Pharact have both sniper and duel pistol/combine rifle option

perfect for newb yet experience gunner
 
He train of thoughs are probably "oh that looks like what they call gundam" and "It has a gun"

So I guess I will go with Pharact. Time to do research.

EDIT: Oh god it's a high space/air maneuvering type, this will be hilarious
 
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ZeroXSEED said:
Yeah, her second suit would be absolutely optimized for that FPS glazing, which is GM Spartan. I need one for the flashback when she's still super newbie.
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ZeroXSEED said:
He train of thoughs are probably "oh that looks like what they call gundam" and "It has a gun"

So I guess I will go with Pharact. Time to do research.

EDIT: Oh god it's a high space/air maneuvering type, this will be hilarious
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Yeah, iirc, the GM Spartan is a pretty obscure suit anyways, unless you count her playing Code Fairy at one point. The Pharact would make more sense.
 
GM spartan as an MS is obscure but the model launch was big. So I would use that timing showing how she's just in for the trend and nothing wrong with that.
 
ZeroXSEED said:
Hello I need an input for a Build/Gunpla story, specifically choices of baseline unit for a character based on her personality. Can anyone help?

So the person is someone confident, self-assured, aloof in public but cheerful on screen (as a streamer), a very casual gundam fan at most with little to no knowledge of most series. Primarily plays FPS.

I was thinking of using Jesta base, but then rethinking that it would be weird for someone like that to use UC unit base. Does anyone have recommendation?
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Maybe the Bryarlant Custom? Really cool appearance in unicorn and if the character is a newbie/hasn't watched Zeta they might think of it as a old Freddie.MS.rather than a Titans unit. More ranged options could be stuff like the Loto or ECOAS Jegan
 
... Oh god, I not just imagine the absolutely shitshow of a newbie picking MGSD thinking "Those are for kids, right?"
 
SD Gundam are some how even more crazy then regular Gundam

you go near SD at your own risk
 
ZeroXSEED said:
... Oh god, I not just imagine the absolutely shitshow of a newbie picking MGSD thinking "Those are for kids, right?"
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It could happen, but I don't think it's as likely as you'd think; for starters, there just isn't that much media coverage for Super Deformed Gundam. After all, their market space was aimed at capsule toys first and then models...except it's not like all other Gundam isn't popular with middle school audiences, which was where they started. They're Bandai's Johnny Come Lately. I checked, and we do still get SD Gundam television series sporadically, but they're absolutely competing for their audience with the Build Fighters line; the wiki says the peak popularity of SD was 1989 to 1993, which sounds believable (and there's almost a decade-long window where there wasn't, and BF was there instead).

On the other hand, there's nothing preventing a newcomer from picking, on the almost opposite end of the popularity spectrum, Gundam SEED and thinking "Those are for kids, right?" Especially given the actual show's atypically bright hair and clothing colors, widespread jiggle physics, almost uniform Hiraiface, and heavy shounen melodrama. Half the mecha designs are even copied from already-established U.C. designs. But mostly that speaks to SEED being stunningly popular, and staying popular, and the gunpla staying popular too; I have never seen anywhere selling Gundam models that didn't include at least some gunpla from SEED.

On the other hand, I'm looking at this from someone in my late thirties. Gundam SEED is over twenty years old. But it's hard to imagine that's not what new audiences, especially young audiences, wouldn't encounter quickly.
 
Synthesis said:
They're Bandai's Johnny Come Lately. I checked, and we do still get SD Gundam television series sporadically, but they're absolutely competing for their audience with the Build Fighters line; the wiki says the peak popularity of SD was 1989 to 1993, which sounds believable (and there's almost a decade-long window where there wasn't, and BF was there instead).
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I guess this explains the violent shift to Chinese fantasy focus. All the newer SD shows are just rehash of Three Kingdoms stories.
 
ZeroXSEED said:
I guess this explains the violent shift to Chinese fantasy focus. All the newer SD shows are just rehash of Three Kingdoms stories.
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I remember previous SD Gundam TV from 10 to 20 years ago also incorporated themes from Classical Antiquity and Greece, like costumes, monuments, etc.; which isn't to say that Classical Greece isn't widely understood by Japanese audience, it's just that I'm pretty sure Classical China is literally part of the Japanese historical canon (the same way that Greece is part of the historical canon in "the Occidental west"). I remember learning about it when I lived in Japan too. And in more practical terms, it's a reliable way to sell video games or manga or what have you. We're really not getting that much SD Gundam nowadays, so it's not surprising they'd pick from popular literary themes.
 
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Half the mecha designs are even copied from already-established U.C. designs.
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TBH, SEED as a whole is more or less UC but with more widespread genentics issues, Less Newtypes, and about 20 Assloads of Racism and speaking as someone whose been a fan of Transformers since I was 4, would definitely get the Big OP pissed as to quote him "Freedom in the Right of all Sentient Beings" which is why I'd be okay with more Fanfics where he gets involved with the CE clusterfuck and by involved, I mean beat the stupid outta the lot of them and treat most of the inhabitants like a bunch of spoiled children who have never been said no to
 
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I like crossovers that combine CE Gundam with other canons where the world government is both comically evil and incompetent. Big fan of the portable Super Robot Wars games where it crosses settings with Martian Successor Nadesico for that reason, and of course any of the SRWZ games where they end up in the same universe as Britannia, although I don't think any of those are translated to English.

Also it's easy to dunk on the shows (and movie now), but I will say that the setting isn't so irredeemable that the Astray manga and Stargazer OVA aren't pretty decent, so like, there's obviously plenty of room to play around with the premise when the basic plot conceit is a little more creative than a UC rehash. Which is more than you can say for AGE which does the same thing.
 
I still argue that SEED needed more time to settle before DESTINY, a Two year time difference was too soon and in a few of my own ideas I like to put a 10 to 20 year gap between SEED and DESTINY to better allow for growth.

Sure, a 10 to 20 year gap would be an older and moodier Shinn but that could mean he's not the Kira stand in and Kira themselves would have likely stepped down. The MC's would have been their children and their associates, though I would have Neo either rediscover himself as Mu and defect or Mu is recovered by Orb forces while Neo is a totally new character. Instead of Stella and Shinn, it would be Stella and one of Shinn's kids.
 
Nerdorama said:
I like crossovers that combine CE Gundam with other canons where the world government is both comically evil and incompetent. Big fan of the portable Super Robot Wars games where it crosses settings with Martian Successor Nadesico for that reason, and of course any of the SRWZ games where they end up in the same universe as Britannia, although I don't think any of those are translated to English.
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Agreed though Blue Cosmos is significantly more aggressive and fanatical than the EFF or EFF equivalents in other universes. So you can have situations where your average EFF commander would retreat or balk at attacking but Blue Cosmos would b e perfectly fine throwing away their entire force for just a chance at victory.

Another thing is that the Valentine Wars feel a lot more personally vicious than the OYW. There's a lot less feeling of 'honor amongst troops' and your average ZAFT or BC mook seems perfectly happy to die in order to kill the other.
 
So my versions of DESTINY would include a 20 year gap to allow for technology growth and character growth. The Treaty of Junius 7 would ban a number of things but also would ban the development of New Mobile Suits for a period of a decade and new WarShip development for fifteen years, this would mean all powers would be forced to use what they already have on hand. However ZAFT and the EA us that time not to take a break on weapons design as was hoped but to refine them further, the same goes for their fleet elements. In that time the Dagger line goes through the GM treatment and variants come out of the brushwork while ZAFT does the same with their preexisting designs resulting in the likes of the GINN II and CGUE II designs. When Cagalli and Lacus learned that both powers were as ready as ever to continue their war, they tried and failed to extend the design recess. Afterwards ORB finally began to upgrade their Astrays and design successor machines.
 
Red Shirt said:
- ban the development of New Mobile Suits for a period of a decade and new WarShip development for fifteen years,
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Unfortunately, ban on weapons-related stuff usually end up being circumvented with increasingly creative ways, in CE and beyond. Hell, ZAFT developed a whole arsenal despite them being banned from doing so in the first place.
 
Hmmm.... I wouldn't go with that long of a gap between the two series but maybe somewhere around a five-year gap would be a bit more interesting. Also in some of my own CE projects, I have what I call the Littner Space Naval Limitations were added to the Junius Seven Treaty. This does limit both the Alliance and ZAFT Fleets to a certain number of fully combat-capable hulls. This does see both sides doing some interesting things to try to get around this with ZAFT turning many of their surviving Laurasia Class ships into lightly armed transports using the idea that it could switch out its hangar pod for a dedicated cargo pod. However due to that ability to switch out the pod these Hercules Class Modular Armed Transports then were easily able to become auxiliary mobile suit carriers when the second war would start by swapping back in a dedicated hangar pod.
 
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