Tyranids "R" Us [40k Tyranid Hivemind SI]

027M03 Smart Humans, and Blanks
027 M03
"Your little humans are quite smart, you know?"

"Hmm? I agree, but what made you say that this time?"

"This Chris Vantrace of yours managed to develop functional machine spirits millennia ahead of 'schedule' simply due to the availability of warp-saturated materials and the crude ability to play hot-cold with what is warp-safe or not, thanks to the partners."

"Interesting. Yes, I can see how that would work, now that I'm looking up the research myself. I'm still amazed you can stand to pose as mundane researchers to collaborate on the science rather than just taking the data from the partners."

"Please. We both know that any backdoors that are even theoretically capable of manipulation or mass surveillance would be too juicy a target for Chaos to ever leave alone. The only reason they can safely piggyback off my communications infrastructure is because I dug an isolated channel within my network that uses my soul as a buffer and it doesn't touch the channel itself."

The Emperor sent a conciliatory feeling. "Oh, I'm aware. I'm just pleasantly surprised that our partnership has remained as equitable as it has. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop, as it were."

I felt the urge to nod a few billion heads at the thought. "That's certainly true. Oh, by the way, can you source some of those warp-saturated materials for me to study? I'd love to have access to some of them now that their creation is possible."

I got a surprised feeling back over the link that we now maintained in the background most of the time. "You actually lack the capability to manufacture them?"

I sent a mental nod. "Yes. So far as I've been able to determine, any individual soul is incapable of making warp-saturated materials like that. Oh, we can dye material with our immaterial presence, but that only leads to one outcome. The reason these composites are interesting is because it takes the overlapping portions of millions of souls and distills the commonalities into a single idea. It creates a much simpler warp-matrix, but it's also that much stronger and purer as a result."

"Huh. So truly a novel material to work with, in that case. I may have to acquire some to run some tests on myself. That sounds like an interesting avenue of research."

"I would be interested to see your results, as ever."

Our conversation lapsed for a time, as it often did, before the Emperor spoke up again. "Have you made any more progress identifying these so-called 'pariahs' or 'blanks' and why they haven't been showing up to date?"

"Oh, I have theories, but I would need to find a Necron Tomb World to confirm or deny any of them, lacking a human example to study safely."

"Why the Necrons? Ah. You suspect that their warp-resistance stems from the same source?"

"Precisely. The fact that it is possible to manufacture on the scale of an entire race and yet naturally occur very rarely among the souled races gives us some clues, if they are indeed the same phenomenon. My current working hypothesis is that rather than being truly 'blank' to the immaterium, they actually lean in the opposite direction from psychic phenomenon entirely. Hence why they can combat the local warp incursions into realspace, rather than just avoiding the effects themselves. Much like positrons or antiprotons are to matter, these 'blanks' are beyond psychically dull or absent, they are actively opposing the natural eddies in the immaterium around them. The reason it can show up naturally but thus far hasn't could be as simple as lacking the triggers for the condition in the first place. If it functions like a psychic equivalent to an autoimmune disease due to a prenatal hypersensitivity to Warp energy, then we may simply be at too low a background incursion level to trigger such a transformation naturally."

We both pondered the idea for a while. "The idea hangs together logically, but I can see why it would be difficult for you to test any of the conditions yourself. If it is indeed a purely oppositional reaction to psychic effects, then your own methods of networking would preclude making use of the effect yourself. When you do discover a Tomb World, be sure to ship me some samples. I would be interested to see how they respond to my own presence."

"Change of subject, since we can do no more to study the effect without samples, I was wondering about your thoughts on allowing some warp-submersion testing to allow for future warp drive research. You seem content to use my gravitational lensing techniques for now, but a reliable warp drive would be a faster method of travel, if such a thing isn't self-contradictory."

"On the plus side, it would allow for more extensive warp-hardening research, but that seems a scant recompense for the dangers it would bring when mishandled, because you know it would be mishandled. With humanity being unaging, longer experienced time isn't really an issue for travel, and if we could get the double linked spatial warps to provide a stronger benefit when directed between low mass stars, most of the downsides would be negated. On that front, I have a few realspace/warp interface geometries to test. I had an idea the other day about skimming the immaterium, much like a hydroplane or a hovercraft, to extend your submarine analogy of warp travel. If we assume that spatial compression techniques stay in contact with the surface of the immaterium-"
 
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Now this is an interesting one, and I like the subtle bit about how the Emperor and the SInids are also forming the same kind of pair bond situation here.
I'm thinking they haven't even realized that part yet themselves.
 
Finding NEW well written, interesting stories is always bittersweet.

I LOVE diving into new concepts and well written works.

But I HATE getting to the end of them.

Le sigh… now to impatiently wait for more.
Thanks for the work PGA
 
So Humans have FTL more than ten millennia early? I'm honestly not sure if that's a good thing, it gives a higher likelihood to be noticed before they can advance their technology enough.

I mean, they have the Tyranids. But I'm guessing neither the SI nor Emps wants humanity to be reliant on them for protection.
 
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So Humans have FTL more than ten millennia early? I'm honestly not sure if that's a good thing, it gives a higher likelihood to be noticed before they can advance their technology enough.

I mean, they have the Tyranids. But I'm guessing neither the SI nor Emps wants humanity to be reliant on them for protection.

It's early but also slow. At 1.2 light years per day they aren't going to target worlds halfway across the galaxy even if everyone is biologically immortal. What I am intrigued by is if Chaos free AI plus an ever growing number of experts might push technology even further.
 
Now I'm considering the situation of Aeldari Pleasure & Pain Death Cult #5327 having Picachu surprise faces because the sky turned dark, because full of descending warforms. It surely had nothing with their torture of the local population of non-entities.

The big problem would be doing so without negatively affecting humanity, and without at some point getting into a war with the Aeldari. Thing is... Tyranids doimg proper farming? AND starlifting for materials? Not sure how long it takes - and we may already be far past that point - but at some point the Aeldari can simply be zerg-rushed, no matter how many ancient superweapons they wield.

Maybe "asking for permission to hunt the knife-eared PREY" on that particular planet once the Aeldari have shown what kind of "people" they are? I mean, would you say no as the planetary governor? But probably best kept as "option g", at most.

Considering how close the Aeldari are to the fall - I don't think the companions will like the chaos taint on the majority of Aeldari.
 
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Now I'm considering the situation of Aeldari Pleasure & Pain Death Cult #5327 having Picachu surprise faces because the sky turned dark, because full of descending warforms. It surely had nothing with their torture of the local population of non-entities.

The big problem would be doing so without negatively affecting humanity, and without at some point getting into a war with the Aeldari. Thing is... Tyranids doimg proper farming? AND starlifting for materials? Not sure how long it takes - and we may already be far past that point - but at some point the Aeldari can simply be zerg-rushed, no matter how many ancient superweapons they wield.

Eh, not really. We don't really know a lot about pre-fall Eldar but even without any 'surprise I just blew up all your starlifting systems' weapons the Eldar would be a horrendous enemy to face.

Their logistics make the Tyranids look nonexistent and a vast portion of their population lives in a place I'm pretty sure the Tyranids can't even get to. Maybe in ten thousand years of constant research and upgrades alongside their human buddies they'll be ready. But not anytime soon.
 
241M03 Academic Inquiry
241 M03
Papers shuffled as Eli marked down his last few points. He just barely managed to keep the tremor out of his writing. This could cost him his entire career and label him a crackpot until his memory died.

Lux crooned from his filing cabinet, trying to settle his nerves. With a glance up at the fire-bird, he was reassured. He had a phoenix. A living, breathing phoenix, bonded to him, and while it missed out on some of the supernatural characteristics of the fabled species, there was too much, too far beyond what they were capable of making.

He nodded, before capping his pen and offering his arm for Lux to jump onto. Her impossibly light weight seemingly disconnected from her firm grip on the patch he had added to all his clothes. She walked up his arm and nestled into his shoulder, before briefly setting the wrist of her wing on the top of his head, steadying him more than herself with the action.

With one last nervous paper straightening shuffle, he set off towards his ultimate bosses' office. The Director of Biological Studies at New Haven university was not someone to bother on a whim. He was ultimately in charge of the largest faculty of the premier biological research university on the planet, and after double and triple checking his office hours, Eli was prepared to speak to the man that would ultimately decide his future career prospects, or lack thereof.

The door was already cracked so he gave a brief wrap on the door frame as he pushed the door open. "Director Thane? I have something I need to speak with you about-"

The young looking man looked up from his reading to see the serious expression on Eli's face and the single sheet of paper held in a death grip, before putting his printout down and gesturing forward. "Well, let's see it Mr. Carcaal. What can I do for one of our finest rising research specialists?"

Eli handed over his paper, and the words tumbled out of his mouth in a stream as he tried to somehow explain his convictions without sounding crazy. "It's just too advanced. The partners are too elegant to be designed with anything close to our current cutting edge technology, and they're too streamlined to be naturally evolved. Two thirds of the developments our department makes are simply due to studying biology that we've had access to for almost a thousand years now, and yet they appeared out of nowhere. It's like a myth, except we actually have access to the proof of the ridiculous claims. I don't- I can't…"

The Director made a calming gesture. "Ah. So it's one of those conversations. It speaks well of your character that you were willing to bring this to my attention. I do know the answers you seek, but I don't have the time to get into the details personally, so I'd like for you to visit administrative building four, the one with the large wind-vane on the roof?"

At Eli's nod, he continued. "So I'd like you to go to the very top floor, and tell the person seated at the desk that you need a category two introduction. You've got that? I'll make sure your biometrics are cleared for the floor, so no need to worry about that. I look forward to working more closely with you in the future, Mr. Carcaal. I'll be watching your career with interest."

And with that, the Director handed him back his sheet of specific proofs, and politely gestured to the door.

He must have looked like a zombie as he stumbled through campus, trying to find the right building with half his brain running in tight panicked loops, but eventually he made it to the desk at the top floor of the right building.

"Um. Hello?" He asked the woman at the desk.

"Yes? How can I help you?"

"Um. I need a class two? No. Sorry, category two. I need a category two introduction?"

Her eyes crinkled up in a smile as she stood and led him to the door behind the desk. "Well I suppose today is going to be a day of revelations for you then."

She then cracked the door and yelled into the mild din coming from further in the room "Hey Francis? We've got another one. You get this one."

At his confused expression, she gently pushed him through the doorway, earning a mild squawk from Lux, even as a large man came up and shook his hand. "High, I'm Francis. Welcome to the club of 'The Guys in the Know' as we call it around here. Long story short, you're probably here because you were convinced that partners couldn't have possibly been created by human hands. Or, perhaps you're one of the rare space-heads on campus that gets tangled up in where the developments for FTL came from. There are other possibilities, but those are the main two. And the answer? You were right. It was aliens. But it's aliens that have been with us every step of the way, just like the partners themselves."

Eli's mind finally rebooted, and he said the first thing that came to mind. "Wait, but then everyone here stumbled on the secret?"

Francis chuckled. "You could say that. We even had one of the political science guys figure it out. Something to do with Arch-councilor Huges that I couldn't make heads or tails of. It's not a conspiracy or anything, so don't worry about spilling the beans if you happen to need to explain your change in jobs to people. Honestly, at this point, I think it's a cultural taboo to bring it up because it's rather embarrassing to admit that you never noticed the signs, and believe me, there are a lot once you know what to look for."

Eli seized on the most relevant part of the speech. "My… change in jobs?"

Francis just clapped him on the shoulder not occupied with Lux. "Welcome to your promotion, in recognition of the fact that you were willing to question things. The pay's the same, but the perks are great. We have a direct line to the aliens, or alien, that bit flew over my head a bit, but we have a line of communication to ask whatever we want. They can choose not to answer, but if it's related to science, then they probably know the answer already. Honestly, half our job is slow-rolling our progress so that humanity actually has time to keep up with the pace of change. And the other half of our job is understanding what we were told in the first place. You'll learn that they're very big on humans standing on their own two feet."

Eli's mind whirled with the possibilities. Any scientific question he could think of…

Francis grinned at him. "I know that look. That's the same look we all get when it sinks in for the first time. I'll leave you alone for a while as you formulate your thoughts and think up some good questions. Wouldn't want to bias you. We've had some great discoveries come out of new guys who thought up questions that everyone else assumed we weren't allowed to ask. It's good to have you on the team."
 
To people mentioning the Alderi they are a lot more terrifying now than you might think. To begin with the Pleasure cults and whatnot won't be a thing for over 20 thousand more years. Makes sense though that from the start of decadence to the fall it was only 6K years at most. If the Alderi meet the SIranids they might actually listen and the fall might never occur at all. Plus in the warp the Eldar gods are still doing stuff even if they're cut off from their people.
 
In 40k, the Aeldari are a dying race, the tattered remnants of a a vast and powerful empire. Less than a tenth of a percent of the population were on the Craftworlds, possibly less than a tenth of a percent survived at all. Every survivor has Slaanesh after them, their technology is a fragment of what it once was, and they still manage to consistently shape the galaxy in major ways. (Mostly the ways they want)

The Aeldari dominion, pre-fall, is very, very powerful indeed.
 
I admit when I first scrolled past this story I ignored it thinking it was another eat everyone SI story this was much better than I expected very much watched.
 
I admit when I first scrolled past this story I ignored it thinking it was another eat everyone SI story this was much better than I expected very much watched.
it really surprised me too i expected something similar to many other self inserts into warhammer as anything other than human
but then this comes along and blows me away
love the idea of bonded animals being a defense against chaos and as a stabilizing factor for humanities worse vices
 
it really surprised me too i expected something similar to many other self inserts into warhammer as anything other than human
but then this comes along and blows me away
love the idea of bonded animals being a defense against chaos and as a stabilizing factor for humanities worse vices
Dogs and cats and even rats to a degree are and were essential to humanity surviving the filter between nomadism and semi-permanent villages and have proven essential at every other level of advancement even into modern society, why wouldn't they be essential to everything further?
 
Anybody here have a decent grounding (and actual references) for pre-fall Eldar?

Because I have no trouble making shit up, but if there's suitable old lore, I'd prefer to conform to it most of the time.
 
Anybody here have a decent grounding (and actual references) for pre-fall Eldar?

Because I have no trouble making shit up, but if there's suitable old lore, I'd prefer to conform to it most of the time.

one thing i know is that they are lazy fucks, using automated fleets and armies to do warfare for them, well besides the occasional corsair and such. If anything the pleasure cults are still a thing, but not fully committed to make slannesh (which was intentional if i remember correctly), towards the end of the federation, probably around the 15th millenia or something.

otherwise they still reave for slaves, intresting beings, and/or other horrific things. think like the wild-hunt from fey lore, also they are complete and utter dicks to the point im pretty sure both the Emperor and Tyranid SI would agree they need to be culled, or at least forced back.

because you know those fucks would definetly fuck around to find out of boredom, even to the point of violations that would make humanities oversoul hurl. (remember, the dark eldar are TAME/Prudes by the empires definition, and only because slannesh would nom them instantly if they went that far.)
 
They're also all immortal and have the sort of technology that wouldn't be out of place during the WiH. So they can actually back up their arrogance.
 
Anybody here have a decent grounding (and actual references) for pre-fall Eldar?

Because I have no trouble making shit up, but if there's suitable old lore, I'd prefer to conform to it most of the time.
I know possible fanfic lore I guess
But it's more just cool stuff I remember people doing with the elder
Like stealing stars and sealing them in the webway
Or a species wide resurrection system mostly used by the powerful via ritual so they don't die
Or blessings from their gods allowing champions to do bullshit via aspecting as them or blessing fleets with greater might
Giant wraithbone constructs with warp cannons ala elder versions of stuff like the psy titan from 40k
Exotic weaponry of every stripe too
Edit: the fireheart a cannon worldshaper relic used and I quote to turn dust clouds in space into planets by the eldar for terraformation or in war to detonate a planets core in a tenth of a cycle
Ishas lament a psychic plague used to exterminate worlds
Hold on ima link where I found these

r/40kLore - [Various Sources] Pre-Fall Eldar Technology

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Also since they can reincarnate (or have a system for that) they are complete assholes who remember every slight…think a mix of dark eldar and xianxia protags/young masters and sects going way overblown retribution for the tiniest perceived slight.
 
Or blessings from their gods allowing champions to do bullshit via aspecting as them or blessing fleets with greater might

Their gods have actually retreated at this point and don't interfere with the current galaxy and Eldar.

Though there may be some very old Eldar who were around before the separation who may have retained some blessings.
 
Their gods have actually retreated at this point and don't interfere with the current galaxy and Eldar.

Though there may be some very old Eldar who were around before the separation who may have retained some blessings.
Yeah I'm assuming some of the most powerful or legendary are still extant at this point and still have the powers as champions of the gods before they ditched
 
Oh boy! What an odd byt very interesting story. A friendly nid who is helping big E make the universe a better place. It's very interesting and kind of funny that people are slowly realizing the tyranids influence in human development. I really want to see what happens when it becomes wildly publicly known.
 
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