If you make your own Juggernaut and include anti-grav letting it dance about the battle field The Juggernaut corps will be jelly.
Traveler [C&C3:KW Multicross SI]
Librarian
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Nope. Not in the unit specifications, but we all know how creative pilots and multi-ton warmachines go together. Think of it as a mech-jockey's version of crazy tanker/pilot maneuvers.
...dammit, now I'm thinking of drumming up an omake featuring excerpts from the Juggernaut Corps' (fictional) textbook to explain mecha doctrine. Damn you, muse!
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Robo-Bird
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Those mechs probably are going to be pissing off the engineers/technicians that get tasked with maintenance, as that maneuver probably did long term damage to a whole mess of systems.
Which fits the Steel Talons ideology, and they are pretty synonymous with GDI mech forces. They already have a support power to overclock the guns on their units causing internal damage, this fits very well as a counterpart to that.
Which fits the Steel Talons ideology, and they are pretty synonymous with GDI mech forces. They already have a support power to overclock the guns on their units causing internal damage, this fits very well as a counterpart to that.
Librarian
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Distractions!
Hmm, pedometer for velocity measurements? But that screws up with custom paces. Cam-timers on the leg joints don't work either...
Question: Would downward-aimed radar guns mounted on the waist in the four cardinal directions be a good system for "flight instruments"? Good ol' revolution-counting accelerometers won't cut it.
It IS a "redlining" maneuver, after all. Sometines you just gotta punch the WEP.
'sides, they can just scrap the damn thing and build a new one in a minute tops, if worst comes to worst. C&C build times are apparently canon to my neverending horror.
Humans are bullsh!t.
Hmm, pedometer for velocity measurements? But that screws up with custom paces. Cam-timers on the leg joints don't work either...
Question: Would downward-aimed radar guns mounted on the waist in the four cardinal directions be a good system for "flight instruments"? Good ol' revolution-counting accelerometers won't cut it.
It IS a "redlining" maneuver, after all. Sometines you just gotta punch the WEP.
'sides, they can just scrap the damn thing and build a new one in a minute tops, if worst comes to worst. C&C build times are apparently canon to my neverending horror.
Humans are bullsh!t.
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Robo-Bird
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I think the figure is 10 minutes for a modern mammoth tank. Then again according to numerous sources GDI has always field constructed their vehicles.
Heck, in the original C&C Nod is even doing a more realistic method of having them flown into the battlefield, and even then they are limited to light tanks as the high end of what the transport planes can shove out the back. Meanwhile GDI constructs war factories that can build the original mammoth tanks in the field, and those had auto-repair systems integrated into them that could maintain the vehicles at half health.
So yeah, C&C humanity is very much a horror of self replicating armies. Only thing holding them back is a lack of trusted AI, which considering CABAL is unlikely to change anytime soon.
Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
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- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
I still remeber the orginal C&C's Armored Personel Crusher
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- The Great Beyond
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- He/She/They
Oh gods yes, that and the damned AI Light Tanks that'd run down your infantry relentlessly.
Chloe Sullivan
Subdefective
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- 1630 Revello Drive, Sunnydale CA
The way i remeber it, the unload animation was just so slow... (and you couldn't fire from within the APC like you can in Generals) The APC was useful for getting infantry across Tib fields, but ideally you'd unload them *before* getting into a fight. In an actual fight the APC was used more to run over enemy crunchies than to protect your own.
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Yeah, it was... barely... useful for crossing fields (mostly at all because the damage was pretty fast and some campaign maps went 'yo dog have an apc, some infantry, and a field you can't walk around'), while being a good balance of fast, cheap, and tough out of crush-capable units.
Librarian
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That, and manpower crunches. Still need 20+ years to manufacture pilots/drivers for your Instant Tonks, after all.
Infantry's probably being seen as the biggest waste of good troopers in GDI, I think.
Now that I think about it, GDI vehicles probably have pilot-safety measures incorporated into them, like the rear escape hatch in the Israeli Merkava and such. Trained specialists get a massive boost in value when the vehicles they drive are shat out of the factories every few minutes or so.
...which makes the canon element of the Orca Gunship not having an ejection seat all the more silly. Probably caused by stuffy bureaucrats arguing if it's a plane or a helicopter.
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- That light in the sky with a decaying orbit.
So the Orca is the Bradly of aircraft? That actually makes some sense.
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- Anatolia
Where did you get that idea?
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IIRC, chopper pilots weren't given ejection seats in their vehicles. Little matter, as they ususally operated at too low altitudes for it to matter. (Also, chopper rotors right above their heads)
Now, apply that to an Orca flying around at cloud level. While keeping in mind that the Orcas, with their tinny rotorblade spans, have piss-all for autorotation.
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The Juggernaut pilot POV segment makes repeated mentions of Traveler's gender.
serapheus
Eep~
Driving
Librarian
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Many thanks. Quality tends to drift after the fifth copy-pasta/total rewrite, no?
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YELLOW ZONES ACROSS THE GLOBE
YEAR 2047, POST TEMPLE PRIME
YEAR 2047, POST TEMPLE PRIME
Oh dear god that's a lot of ground to cover. Foreman 371 never stood a chance in finding Kane before the Scrin Blitzkrieg tapered off.
Rooting out one man in pretty much 50% OF THE WORLD MAP, DURING WARTIME CONDITIONS IN A TWO-FRONT WAR BETWEEN FEUDING GLOBAL SUPERPOWERS OF AN ENTIRE SPECIES.
I'm really beginning to think Foreman 371 pissed off someone up high, or this is a culling by Ichor Hub due to the ongoing Scrin Civil War back home. This extent of strategy fail leaps just past wishful thinking and into suicide mission domains.
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Robo-Bird
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In the final Scrin briefing his supervisor outright says the entire harvesting operation is "expendable", the mothership AI cuts transmission and technically 371 goes rouge to let the last Threshold get completed instead of dying for the cause.
Said AI starts the invasion advising to abort, from the moment the ion cannons fire and while growing more and more passive aggressive to the supervisor.
... So, basically, 371 only continued because he figured that it was worth it to carry on, and when it was made blatantly obvious to him that loyalty was not going to be rewarded, he ditched? If the SI has memories of that briefing, and can crop the sound files right, he might be able to make it appear that he has gotten intel suggesting that the entire harvesting op is considered expendable by the higher ups. Hand that over to 371, and he might wind up getting ticked off and confronting his superiors over it. At the very least, it drives something of a wedge between 371 (who seems like he isn't all that much of an asshole) and the superiors back at the Ichor Hub (who are definitely assholes).
E.I.G.
Robo-Bird
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It is rather unclear what exactly the Foreman was thinking because they are the player character.
Here is the actual extent of the Scrin cutscenes:
We see two characters, the Mothership AI and the Foreman's supervisor. The actual part where they are told they are expendable is well after it is obvious that this is a failed operation. In fact listening to this it actually sounds like the AI has a good idea that the Threashold construction is going to be very difficult if not impossible as soon as the ion cannons fire.
Of the mission the majority are "go out there and distract them so we don't get rolled over" with the final two being to find information at the blast site to figure out if it was a trap for the mining fleet (it was) and then the defense of the last Threashold to get out.
They learn of Kane's presence right before they run out of time, so I'm not sure how much editing could be done to make that idea seem like it is valid before they can no longer afford to stay.
Jaune Pendragon
King Of Servants
- Location
- Avalon
I'm pretty sure you meant tenthousdand meters. Not Kilometers. Because according to NASA Space starts about 60 from the sealevel. Pretty sure 10000 Kilometers is wel out of earths orbit. Not to mention ther the radius of the earth itself is about 6000Km. How the fuck cruising Attitude is 10000Kilometer I have NO idea.