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At the end of the day, more winds=more oomph though. I feel like going from 2 to 3 isn't that big of a jump, and we know the original two wind spell is inadequate. 2 to 4 is double the power, which feels more in the ballpark for the right escalation.
Right but more winds makes it harder to learn; this reduces our reward and our impact on the world.

That being said. I do think we should add both Hysh and Ghyran. I'm just saying that adding Hysh is a valid choice.
 
[x] Hysh
[x] Chamon
[x] Ghyran

Hysh to restablish order of the soul and fight off Dhar.
Chamon(a child's wonder) to balance Ghyran(Which regrows the damage).

Non traditional Folk REMEDY GOOO!!!!
 
Any idiot can kill. Dragons, hearts pierced by the cursed athaumaturgy of the Haclad. Dreadlords, gorget pierced by the spear of some daft farmer pressed to service in the Empire. Daemons, necks bitten out by some savage ogre even as they cried of the impossibility.

The blood of great things stains the hands of the mediocre. The ash of cities marks the armor of the great.

But in all of history, how many take the time to save a random thrall girl, a little trifling thing in this the heart of the lands of the enemy and, as some paranoid whisper in the back of your mind speaks, possibly fallen to Chaos? One, ten, a hundred, a thousand?

Well it matters not. Not today.

Today you shall assume the best.

Today you must assume the best.
I really like Vardanis's thought process for his choice.

Tethia clearing her throat tells you you're getting sidetracked, even as your examination of the Thrall's form continues, revealing a deep set of bruises--unlikely to be lethal, but almost certainly painful, very painful. "He stank of the Tempter-That-Is-Not." Not the generic facet of Slaanesh, in rut and insatiable. A different face, the hunt for Perfection perhaps. Distantly you feel from Indrast and Indiron as they win, and you send a mystical warning to them not to eat anything from the body at all.

"You suppose the White Tower will accept that excuse?"

"I think I'm not above making myself accountable either way." If you had thought it was wrong, you would not have done it. And that will account for much. At worst there will be no real material effect. At worst, Malanir himself will say "you were too quick" and that will be remembered; but there will be others who remember as well, Ythil and Tyrial among them, who will attest that whatever else may be the case, there was a servant of Slaanesh, and he was thick with Dhar. At worst, you will not recieve one of the coveted invitations to explore Saphethion.
Slaanesh Cultist and that justifies it and if not Vardanis accepts the consequences of his actions.

Bubbling out ugly, fetid, brown puss. Immediately you look upon her with your Windsight, revealing the moderately relieving and moderately horrifying in equal measure fact that her soul, though not entirely unmarred by Dhar, is not truly engrained with the stuff yet, and that therefore is a chance yet to save her, if you are able. The Thrall's big brown eyes widen as she looks at you, presumably feeling the magic prodding at her, or perhaps she simply has good ears and enough good common sense to realize a mage gasping is never great.

"I can heal this."

You grab the limb to examine it further.

You aren't even lying. You aren't telling the whole truth either, mind you.

Rebuke of the Warp will not be sufficient. Which makes it fortunate that you are much the better a Mage now than you were when you made it, doesn't it? And, for that matter, that there's a small litany of notes in journals littered around your room with proposed modifications to make it better. Now to see how well they might work.
Yeah she really did need that healing.
 
[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh

[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil and protect the mind
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh
-[X] Shyish
 
[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh

[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil and protect the mind
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh
-[X] Shyish
 
[X] Plan: Purification and Healing
-[X] Hysh

This plan is to make the simplest spell that could spread widely and get more favor.

[X] Plan: Current Fullpower
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh
-[X] Shyish
-[X] Chamon

And this plan is for the strongest spell possible to make absolute certain it works when used.

Just throwing these plans out there, but honestly this plan seems like the best compromise.

[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh
 
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Just to note that Ghyran isn't actually very good at healing at sun-battle magic levels.

Its focus is on the cycles of nature, not of restoring what was lost.

Ghyran can heal by regrowth, like new shoots in spring. Hysh heals by returning something to their ideal state.

Those are quite different conceptually. Hysh healing is about going 'backwards', retuning something to its idealised beginning/origin. Ghyran healing is about going 'forwards' into a new iteration of itself.

Shyish is also contradictory with Ghyran based healing. Shyish is the magic of time as entropy, of things coming to an end. Ghyran is the magic of time as a cycle with no beginnings and no end, just one day and one year happening over and over again.
 
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[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil
-[X] Ghyran
-[X] Hysh

I don't think we can handle more than 4 winds in a spell, and Ghur and the sky one whose name I forgor are locked in.
 
[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil

I think it's good to keep it simple here, and these 2 aspects ar ethe most obvious solutions. I'm sure you can make arguments for the other winds and how they would help, but are they better than these 2 in this specific circumstance? I don't think so.

On another note, Does the selection of the order of the winds matter here @Voikirium ?
 
[X] Plan: Heal the body, purge the evil

I think it's good to keep it simple here, and these 2 aspects ar ethe most obvious solutions. I'm sure you can make arguments for the other winds and how they would help, but are they better than these 2 in this specific circumstance? I don't think so.

On another note, Does the selection of the order of the winds matter here @Voikirium ?
Not in this case, lemme chew it over for broader work.
 
Just to note that Ghyran isn't actually very good at healing at sun-battle magic levels.

Its focus is on the cycles of nature, not of restoring what was lost.

Ghyran can heal by regrowth, like new shoots in spring. Hysh heals by returning something to their ideal state.

Those are quite different conceptually. Hysh healing is about going 'backwards', retuning something to its idealised beginning/origin. Ghyran healing is about going 'forwards' into a new iteration of itself.

Shyish is also contradictory with Ghyran based healing. Shyish is the magic of time as entropy, of things coming to an end. Ghyran is the magic of time as a cycle with no beginnings and no end, just one day and one year happening over and over again.
Not exactly.

1. Ghyran is both in lore, on the tabletop and in total war; the best healing wind. It is focused on cycle of nature, but its only one of its expression, restoration of forest after the fire, natural healing after injury, and water that carries away the pollution is also the domain of Ghyran.
2. Hysh healing also does not go backwards; it attacks what is wrong and cleanses it.

An example would be that Hysh would be better at healing a sickness by getting rid of germs but would be slightly weaker than Ghyran at healing someone who lost an arm, with the longer the arm was missing being the harder it is to regrowing, because mind and soul got used to not having said limb.

As for Shyish, it is a very poor understanding of the wind. Shyish is the wind of mind, memory and the spirit.
It is time, but not as entropy; it is time as a river with the understanding that mortals shouldn't try to reverse its flow. This isn't contradictory to Ghyran, as we are trying to heal somebody, not raise the dead. Here, I invoke Shyish Domain over memory and sleep to make sure that we will get to know who we saved and, if possible, bring her back to her family.
 
Vote's gonna be called tomorrow unless some kind of Omega Shitstorm of votes kicks off, then update this weekend (probably Saturday but I may decide to Touch Grasstm​ and update on Sunday instead).
 
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Hey, so I did update the front page, but if somebody could audit me just to make sure I didn't miss anything too terribly important that would be much appreciated. Probably some snazz points (Yes I'm stealing it Soul, and you can't stop me!) at least.
 
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