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So, I'm guessing Taylor's thing with Sophia is a variation on Simurgh's Tinker stunt, where she can use other nearby powers. Taylor might be limited to Breaker powers, or she might be able to borrow all the powers.

I was going to say joining the Wards could solve her money problems, but if she's looking at emancipation she might be able to join the Protectorate instead. Well, provided Armsy and Piggy don't crit fail the social stuff that is.

And then Sera can join the Wards! And she can be on the team with Shadow Stalker! That sounds like a wonderful idea!
I think personally that it sounded as if she was developing her own Endbringer power instead. Possibly a Trump-power. Maybe Bohu?
Though SV IIRC lacks rules on necros, I'm pretty sure it's still considered impolite...
Best not to touch that shit. Around here, necro-discussions tend to be like plutonium: everybody who comes into contact with it gets problems.
 
Though SV IIRC lacks rules on necros, I'm pretty sure it's still considered impolite...
...I know better. I really do. Usually. When not running on two hours of sleep. Ugh, fine, time to bite the bullet and break out the caffeine.

Still, serious question: an emancipated minor is legally an adult. Do they end up in the Wards or the Protectorate? And of course Sera in the Wards with SS would be glorious.
 
Expect the Wards. Mostly because optics are key to the Protectorate, and letting a kid become part of it before they're of age (regardless of legal status) would look really bad for them given some of the things they have to deal with.
 
Even if she's legally an adult, separation between Cape and Civilian IDs means that they pretty much have to put her in the Wards, making which side you end up in entirely dependent on your actual age. Otherwise you just need to look for "emancipated minors that kinda look like <cape>" to connect the two identities.
 
The Wards are not defined by the majority/minority of the members, but by their age. That said, I imagine the Protectorate IS defined by the majority/minority status of the members.

It could go any of three ways:

  • Ward
  • Protectorate
  • Both

The second is the most likely if their power is genuinely useful enough and they show enough maturity and responsibility to be trusted to do the serious police- and hero-work that is required. They are, essentially, emancipated minors signing up to be cops. As parahumans, they're desirable for that role despite any physical immaturity, but they'll be expected to be at LEAST as mature, on the job, as their coworkers. This would be especially true if, for instance, they needed to make a living at this. Being emancipated, they would need to support themselves, after all.

The first is almost guaranteed if they're too young to "pass" in costume as an adult. The PR of having an obviously underaged (even if they gave out such identifying information as "Magnificent Lad is an emancipated minor") hero who was taking on real Protectorate jobs would feed way too fast into "child soldier" narratives that the Wards program fights tooth and nail to let the PRT/Protectorate avoid. And you know the Youth Guard, being not technically a government agency and thus peopled by volunteers, would ignore the "emancipated" part and focus on the "minor," and try to insist they have jurisdiction.

The third is likely if there's a way to pass as both. It's probable different IDs would be used, though in a less grimdark setting (or just a less grimdark CITY than Brockton), they might get away with being open about the dual-membership. If they give away that identifying info, again.

The reason for the third option would be a combination of "useful and needs the money" with "superiors care about the kid's socialization and want to make sure he hangs out with people his own age as well as adults."

The third option would likely take the form of doing all his duties as a Protectorate hero, but also frequently going on patrol with a Ward in Ward-safe parts of town. Also being encouraged to spend time - free and official - attending Wards social events. Even if it's just the Wards getting together to do a team-building exercise, he'd probably be pushed into any Protectorate-representative position for it, just to encourage him to spend time with other superpowered kids.

But when the chips are down, he's paid to be a mature adult Protectorate hero, so he gets called on for the same stuff other Protectorate heroes are. And he's expected to live up to Protectorate standards of paperwork, ethics, etc., getting away with none of the shenanigans that Wards can play the "he's a kid; just scold him" card to survive.
 
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Caught in the Moonlight

"Alright Wards," Aegis announced. "We've got a new member. Everyone, this is Diana."

"Hi!" Sera said, waving and fighting back the urge to sneeze. The mask itched.

"So, what's your cape name?" Vista asked. They were getting another girl on the team! One who wasn't Shadow Stalker!

"No, that is my cape name," Sera said. "Diana, Roman goddess of hunting and the moon?"

"Ok, that's cool," Vista said.

"Oh, I forgot to mention," Aegis said. "Diana is Tiamat's younger sister apparently. Something to be aware of if Tiamat comes to visit us."

"Really?" Clockblocker asked. "You don't really look like Tiamat." Try as he might, the only thing he could think of that matched up between the newest member of the Protectorate and his new teammate was height.

"Adopted," Sera said with a shrug. "Anyways, I'm a Tinker/Brute/Shaker, which is complicated, but fun!"

"Fucking grabbags," Shadow Stalker muttered from the corner.

Sera frowned. "Anyways, my real name is Serafina, but you can all call me Sera." She glanced over at Shadow Stalker. "Sera Hebert."

Shadow Stalker would forever deny that she panicked at that statement. Clearly, her falling out of her chair was entirely planned. As was her abrupt transition to her breaker form. As was her rush to escape through the ceiling. No, she was clearly not panicking. Not panicking at all.

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If Taylor's part of the Protectorate, would that mean she outranks Sophia? I can see a lot of fun ways that could go.
 
If Taylor's part of the Protectorate, would that mean she outranks Sophia? I can see a lot of fun ways that could go.
Not really, the only one of the Protectorate who can command the Wards when no-patrol would be the leader of the local Protectorate, Armsmaster, or as is the case with Brockton Bay, the director of the local PRT, Piggot. Taylor's work as a member of the Protectorate allows her to instruct certain Wards and ensure their safety during patrols, not to command them (this is the work of the supervisor, after all).
 
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Not really, the only one of the Protectorate who can command the Wards when no-patrol would be the leader of the local Protectorate, Armsmaster, or as is the case with Brockton Bay, the director of the local PRT, Piggot. Taylor's work as a member of the Protectorate allows her to instruct certain Wards and ensure their safety during patrols, not to command them (this is the work of the supervisor, after all).
In practice the difference is likely mostly semantic though, I would think.
 
The wards are cadets Taylors the real deal .
Shadow Stalker is now in Taylors shadow:grin: and will be forever as seniority is a bitch :grin:.

"Don't worry little ward a real hero is here I won't let the nasty nazis hurt you" :turian: is taylor being nice
With the rest of the wards trying hard not to laugh.
 
The wards are cadets Taylors the real deal .
Shadow Stalker is now in Taylors shadow:grin: and will be forever as seniority is a bitch :grin:.

"Don't worry little ward a real hero is here I won't let the nasty nazis hurt you" :turian: is taylor being nice
With the rest of the wards trying hard not to laugh.
To be fair, Shadow Stalker's power is... not terribly impressive. Which is made worse by the part where she has precisely the wrong personality to make maximum use of it. Meanwhile, Endbringer. Taylor and/or Sera could easily end up having to save SS from Hookwolf or someone.
 
To be fair, Shadow Stalker's power is... not terribly impressive. Which is made worse by the part where she has precisely the wrong personality to make maximum use of it.
Her power actually is pretty good. It's Shadowkat's, but with an electricity vulnerability and a better ability to manipulate momentum (i.e. she can do things like jump further and glide when insubstantial). She's not quite as good as Flechett's power for hurting the unhurtable, but she's close enough in terms of dealing with non-Entity threats that it makes little difference. Tranq darts are just the exact opposite of how to take advantage of it (and for a good reason: taking advantage of it is messy as heck).

For any armor-reliant foe, she's a nightmare. Even her electrical vulnerability doesn't kick in if she isn't touching it, herself, so even an electrified hull on, say, Squealer's latest monstrosity would not stop her from dropping some confoam grenades into the interior.

Javelins would be a much better ranged weapon for her, too, since they can double as spears, and giving her reach with which to penetrate deep into something before solidifying the weapon would be dangerous.

Heh. An alt-power Taylor with Sophia's power who kept her Armsmaster fangirlishness enough to go out wielding a makeshift halberd - on precisely the basis that reach with it inside things is good - and otherwise having the canon opening night in April would make for an interesting potential. The overt flattery of seeing himself being mimicked by a self-proclaimed wannabe hero might well lead to a slightly different approach, which might click more with Taylor.

Fast forward to Ward!Taylor being Armsmaster's sidekick (because the halberd sells well with PR) and using specialized halberds designed by Armsmaster for use with the Shadowform ability.
 
Taylor: "We've received intelligence that Coil is scum. Quickly, Shadow Stalker, investigate that sceptic tank for the possible presence of Coil!"

If Sophia is more intellectual than the usual version (I swear Wildbow seems to have no well-educated black characters?) she'd snark back with "Well, there's lots of E. Coli down there. Should I go full accent-slash-typo and report that 'He, Coil' is down there, as in 'e as an accented 'he'?"

Her power actually is pretty good.

Indeed. Phased melee combat is hyper-lethal if done correctly (hi there, enemy's brain, how's the SUDDENLY PLASTIC BATON feeling?)
 
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Sophia also may have some ability to instinctively shift into shadow (or part of herself into shadow) when taking massive damage, as seen with that often cited but hard to interpret quote where she seems to regenerate being impaled by ballistic. (not the only possible reading, admittedly).
 
If Sophia is more intellectual than the usual version (I swear Wildbow seems to have no well-educated black characters?) she'd snark back with "Well, there's lots of E. Coli down there. Should I go full accent-slash-typo and report that 'He, Coil' is down there, as in 'e as an accented 'he'?"



Indeed. Phased melee combat is hyper-lethal if done correctly (hi there, enemy's brain, how's the SUDDENLY PLASTIC BATON feeling?)
Coil would be pretty well educated if he's able to swing government bureaucrat and wealthy businessman, and Thomas Calvert is black.
 
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