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The Valkyrior (MCU Thor/Worm)

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apeljohn said:
Taylor: Then congratulations, Director Fury, all your employees' families now have fleas. Now imagine what the Nazi parahumans or the yakuza dragon would do.

(Incidentally, I vaguely remember reading a one-shot where the Undersiders respond to the PRT exposé of Taylor's identity by, among other things, publicising the personal details of all the Protectorate capes involved in the operation. Can anyone remember which one that was?)
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Man, is everyone here obsessed with Taylor getting the last word or being the "winner" of an arguement? The unwritten rules mean jackshit in Marvel Earth. The only reason they even remotely held value was because Cauldron needed as many capes as possible.
 
Heather Sinclair said:
That's not what I'm talking about. I mean they rarely do anything with the characters on the Index. They did the one show with Scorch and then that was pretty much it... and Crusher. And Crusher wound up being the monster of the week. (was it Crusher or Absorbing man. I can never remember) Scorch was just trying to live his life before Centipede came along and made him the monster of the week. I'm doing something with a few of them that are just trying to get by, that have little to no criminal aspect to them.
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Crusher is the characters name (As in, civilian name. Crusher Creel) in the comics. In the show, it was changed to Carl and Crusher is a nickname. The villain name is Absorbing man
Antumbra said:
Exactly. Earth Bet has been carefully fucked up by Cauldron and the Entities to breed parahumans.

Without PLOT, organizations like the Empire or a singular creature like Lung could never last.
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I don't know. Lung is gonna be high tier as far as the MCU goes. Sure, they could take him out, but someone's gonna be tempted by the power he brings. I see Hydra trying to bribe him into service with booze and whores
 
I just realized (while reading another fic): Fury will have a death grip on her...

Master/Stranger Protocols.
 
Huh. Taylor is going to be a goldmine of standardized parahuman protocols. And how to subvert them.

She might not be joining SHIELD, but I expect she will be a well paid and respected consultant for them. She does, after all, hail from a culture that developed a system for dealing with the paranormal.

MInd you, not all of it works, but that's just a bonus. Learning from the mistakes of others so they don't repeat history, curb bad practice before it happens, et cetera.

Taylor may well be more useful for social engineering than she is for espionage or combat.
 
Taylor: And that sums up the PRT and their protocols from Earth Bet.
Fury: I want those protocols acted on yesterday!
Taylor: Excuse me, but at what point did I mention these protocols were worth using? Now, here's what you should really be doing...
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*later*
Fury: You were a teenage warlord? Am I hearing this right?
Taylor: *shrug* I also mind-raped three realities of super-powered beings to kill a god and his wife but yeah, if you're fixated on my misspent youth, whatever.
 
tertius said:
I'm seriously looking forward to Taylor explaining Master/Stranger protocols to Fury years before she's proven right.
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Actually, if we take the way they deal with interrogations and the occasional ghost it is obvious they got some really good M/S protocols already. Main problem is that Hydra infiltrated them at the really long term, as in their grandfathers started the process. M/S are short term solutions, and even the longer periods of surveillance are measured in months, not entire generations.

Zola was truly the real mastermind of Hydra, Red Skull was there just to attract the attention of their enemies.
 
Did we ever decide/figure out anything about Thunderbolt Ross' Super Soldier formula? The initial dose seemed like it turned Blonsky into a good imitation of Captain America, at least physically.

There didn't seem to be any visible side effects on the first dose either, at least short term. The "fun" didn't start until they dosed him again to save his life.

Was there any follow up on that in any of the source material? Anyone have any thoughts on it? It just seems like the kind of loose end that shouldn't be left laying around.
 
Heather Sinclair said:
Before it gets too crazy. Remember the official Avengers wasn't even formed until the threat to the world in 2012. We're still a ways off. So there's no "leader" of what will be The Avengers anytime soon.
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Plus, a leader for the Avengers is not really something you can assign. One emerges naturally, or not at all. That said, I could see Taylor following Steve Rogers. Of course, that's only after she allows herself to believe he's truly the genuine article. He's pretty much the hero she once thought the Triumvirate were. Now convincing Taylor of that fact...
 
MadGreenSon said:
Did we ever decide/figure out anything about Thunderbolt Ross' Super Soldier formula? The initial dose seemed like it turned Blonsky into a good imitation of Captain America, at least physically.

There didn't seem to be any visible side effects on the first dose either, at least short term. The "fun" didn't start until they dosed him again to save his life.

Was there any follow up on that in any of the source material? Anyone have any thoughts on it? It just seems like the kind of loose end that shouldn't be left laying around.
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Yo... here's a little more info.
 
If Taylor's following Cap, it's only to gaze upon that magnificent beefcake rump. And occasionally save said ass with BEEEESSSS!!!!
 
cookiemontser said:
I bet Fury's going to be investing big time in insecticides.
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It'd be really funny if he did. Not for himself though.

Get enough control over the pesticide/insecticide market and he can limit what other people have access to by controlling either supply or new varieties of bug killing technology. Or both. Given technological advances brought about by the emergence of super powered minds, bug control could go through massive changes... if he let it. And to make Taylor's job of infiltrating something easier he could restrict supply to places she would be visiting a couple of months prior to her insertion.

After all, once Taylor's been employed for long enough, he'll have some measure of trust and understanding for her (I'm not saying he wont have plans, 'just in case') so he'll know that she's happy to do things to help people, and while her methods can be brutal she's not actually intending on going supervillain. Unless he forces her to, which he wont because he's not from Earth Bet.


apeljohn said:
(Incidentally, I vaguely remember reading a one-shot where the Undersiders respond to the PRT exposé of Taylor's identity by, among other things, publicising the personal details of all the Protectorate capes involved in the operation. Can anyone remember which one that was?)
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There's at least two of them.
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Two

tertius said:
I'm seriously looking forward to Taylor explaining Master/Stranger protocols to Fury years before she's proven right.
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Fury: "Right, and how does that apply to you?"
Taylor: "Considering how much information I can get from a wide area from creatures that represent more of the biomass on the planet than humans do? Difficultly."
Fury: "Right, we're going to want you onboard just to avoid that stress then."
Taylor: "Ah, don't worry. Just think, it'd be even worse if I could control people."
 
Franklymydear said:
It'd be really funny if he did. Not for himself though.

Get enough control over the pesticide/insecticide market and he can limit what other people have access to by controlling either supply or new varieties of bug killing technology. Or both. Given technological advances brought about by the emergence of super powered minds, bug control could go through massive changes... if he let it. And to make Taylor's job of infiltrating something easier he could restrict supply to places she would be visiting a couple of months prior to her insertion.

After all, once Taylor's been employed for long enough, he'll have some measure of trust and understanding for her (I'm not saying he wont have plans, 'just in case') so he'll know that she's happy to do things to help people, and while her methods can be brutal she's not actually intending on going supervillain. Unless he forces her to, which he wont because he's not from Earth Bet.



There's at least two of them.
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Two


Fury: "Right, and how does that apply to you?"
Taylor: "Considering how much information I can get from a wide area from creatures that represent more of the biomass on the planet than humans do? Difficultly."
Fury: "Right, we're going to want you onboard just to avoid that stress then."
Taylor: "Ah, don't worry. Just think, it'd be even worse if I could control people."
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Fury: *blinks* you can't can you?
Tayor: Well, not anymore.
Fury: I think I'm getting a headache.
Taylor: I didn't do it... maybe.
 
Fury most likely has files on Ant-man and knows he could do some remarkable jobs using just ants. Having an all around insect controller on speed-dial is probably something Fury would want.

Hell, in this universe the Yellowjacket project might be funded way earlier since the combination of insect scouts/flying/firepower alone is enough to make it worth the investment. That's without adding the Pym Particles shrinking into the mix.
 
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Looks at wiki... wait, they used the original super soldier formula? Then what the hell were thay having so much trouble with? Was it the Vita Ray thing Stak created? He was still alive for a long time following that So what could the problem have been?:confused:
 
PseudoSim said:
Looks at wiki... wait, they used the original super soldier formula? Then what the hell were thay having so much trouble with? Was it the Vita Ray thing Stak created? He was still alive for a long time following that So what could the problem have been?:confused:
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Soldier Mentality. It's the only thing that makes sense. Soldiers just weren't close enough to Cap for the formula to work as expected.
 
I wonder if Fury is going to connect the dots that it takes a badass to take a power as 'mundane' as bug control to manage to earn your way into Valhalla.

I mean of course he would. He's Nick Fury.

Ridiculously Average Guy said:
Soldier Mentality. It's the only thing that makes sense. Soldiers just weren't close enough to Cap for the formula to work as expected.
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Even Cauldron tells you that the mentality matters
 
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