Ah
Thank you for clarifying that. I forgot that the Baratie P- guy was Patty.
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The Rose's Ocean (RWBY/One Piece)
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ThatOnePsycho
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Ruby will have a dream by that point. A realtively modest dream compared to the others, but a dream nonetheless.
It will be good enough for Luffy either way. I mean he didn't make fun of Koby for having his dream to be in the Marines and supports him despite they're gonna be in opposite sides.
ThatOnePsycho
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I think I've said this a couple of times, but my only problem with This Bites! is that it's such a foundational fanfic to OP that people expect you to crib ideas from it. Which I find insulting for 2 reasons. One, it implies I have no creativety and have to crib ideas from a far better fic than my own and two, it means I can't really write without being in the shadow of a giant. If I don't do something This Bites! Did, people will ask why I didn't, if I do something This Bites does, I feel like I'm stealing from a fic far too good for that.
True, I see your point.
Also, will we get to see Ruby questioning why Luffy and fellow Straw Hats and also their enemies do the Calling Out Your Attack during a fight?
The answer she will get from Luffy will be: "All great fighters call out their finishing moves."
ThatOnePsycho
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She might wonder it internally, but she's also gonna accept that it just seems to be a thing in this world, and has already started to indulge a bit with "Nature's Madness"
Ruby is gonna go with the flow then. Plus she is good of making up attack names like she did with her fellow teammates when they fight together.
ThatOnePsycho
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Alright, I'm having uh issues figuring out exactly how Haki interacts with Logia, which will be important for the next chapter. I know it's supposed to force a Logia back into their human state, but there's evidence from the Marineford arc that the moment the offending object is removed, they can fix the damage.
Namely on two examples, Whitebeard puts Murakumogiri (explicitly said to be covered in Haki) through Aokiji's chest, and other than vomiting up some blood while it's there, Aokiji is back in action the minute Murakumogiri is removed and doesn't have a scar in the shape of a giant goddamn glaive blade in his torso, and then there's a scene whete a pair of Whitebeard members cut into Akainu (once again explicitly said to be covered in Haki) and he just turns to lave and heals the wound.
So yeah, I'm trying to figure that out.
Namely on two examples, Whitebeard puts Murakumogiri (explicitly said to be covered in Haki) through Aokiji's chest, and other than vomiting up some blood while it's there, Aokiji is back in action the minute Murakumogiri is removed and doesn't have a scar in the shape of a giant goddamn glaive blade in his torso, and then there's a scene whete a pair of Whitebeard members cut into Akainu (once again explicitly said to be covered in Haki) and he just turns to lave and heals the wound.
So yeah, I'm trying to figure that out.
We can just chalk it up to the Admirals being BUILT DIFFERENT as they're literal forces of nature and part of the Three Great Powers (Three Admirals, Seven Warlords and Four Emperors) that kept the balance in the world of One Piece for a reason.
Plus Akainu, Aokiji and Kizaru were in the Marines during their years of service (at least until Aokiji who left and end up joining with Blackbeard two years later) and they had mastered their Logia Devil Fruits to get to the level they are now.
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Haki is supposed to attack the "real body" of a logia.
We do see Aokiji missing a leg later so we know damage can be permanent.
That said looking at the panels I don't see blood. It looks like Aokiji is forcing his body into ice and moving it out of the way than anything.
Speaking of Aokiji, it's gonna be another shocker for Ruby when he demonstrated the difference between a rookie Logia and a master Logia that's on a different level from Crocodile and Enel.
The other two are no pushovers themselves though.
ThatOnePsycho
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They might have added blood in the anime then. I was just watching it and he definitely bleeds in it. Same with Akainu when he gets slashed (and his neck gets heavily hit in that blow). So it's wither artistic licence from the anime, or they can regenerate.
The main problem is whether I want to do something come next chapter, and it really, really depends on whether a Logia can heal or not (and even then, how the Mori Mori no Mi's ability to regrow interacts with Haki) namely
I considered Adam giving Ruby a half Glasgow grin during their confrontation in Loguetown, but if a Logia, and the Mori Mori no Mi in particular, can Regen, it's pointless
True, even the Haki used by Yamato wasn't effective on Aramaki when being bonked in the head really hard and the green-themed Admiral is still kicking.
Perhaps Ruby could be cut down into a lot of sliced up pieces of wood and plantlife... before a sprout appears on the ground and she immediately regenerated. Ruby is gonna feel unnerved when seeing the remains of her previous body.
Logias are really dangerous in their own right for a reason, at least in Paradise where they are unstoppable and nothing can really hurt them.
Garm352
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I think with Logia, what it comes down to is a couple of things - most important is how long the offending object is inside their body. You leave a blade infused with Haki stabbed into their heart long enough for their brain to stop getting oxygen, then unless their logia form bypasses that requirement - like Ruby's with being a plant and being able to just absorb straight from the air in theory - that's probably a killing blow. If you can knock them unconscious or keep them from focusing on restoring the damage using their element by speed blitzing them or excruciating pain, that'd probably work too.
Alternatively, seastone. Give Adam a seastone blade for his weapon. A seastone weapon leaving a scar makes sense.
Then there's cases like Akainu v Ace, where a similar element on a more intense scale overpowers another. Magma vs fire. Not applicable in Ruby's case, I can't think of an equivalent greater or lesser version for her. But, say, a solar logia I could see trumping both Akainu and Kizaru in theory.
Another thing to consider is the clash of Haki - Akainu and Aokiji have very strong wills, which is what a clash of Haki is at the end of the day. They could be able to break down or push out the lingering Haki of other people from their wounds more easily due to either their will or practice and experience. After all, Haki is the big weakness of logia outside seastone and ocean water. It'd make sense if they trained for that.
Alternatively, seastone. Give Adam a seastone blade for his weapon. A seastone weapon leaving a scar makes sense.
Then there's cases like Akainu v Ace, where a similar element on a more intense scale overpowers another. Magma vs fire. Not applicable in Ruby's case, I can't think of an equivalent greater or lesser version for her. But, say, a solar logia I could see trumping both Akainu and Kizaru in theory.
Another thing to consider is the clash of Haki - Akainu and Aokiji have very strong wills, which is what a clash of Haki is at the end of the day. They could be able to break down or push out the lingering Haki of other people from their wounds more easily due to either their will or practice and experience. After all, Haki is the big weakness of logia outside seastone and ocean water. It'd make sense if they trained for that.
There's fire as a weakness of Woods-Woods Fruit.
Of course, Aramaki specifically trained to be resistant to fire and stated that he'd be an idiot to not circumvent that. He does have a limit when adult Momonosuke in Dragon form blasted the green-themed Admiral's giant tree form down, forcing the latter to regenerate from a sapling.
Ruby in this story doesn't know that and would be wary of fire. Which would lead to her undergo training when Kuma sends her to an island to master her nature Logia power.
ThatOnePsycho
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No offense, this has more to do with stuff on SB than anything to do with you, but "just giving them Seastone" is starting to get up there with "just fix the Merry" on things that bug me. Seastone is supposed to be rare and mostly restricted to the Navy in large amounts. A glorified mook in the RA would absolutely, definitely not have a Seastone weapon. This isn't the first time I got suggestions along that line (including a suggestion to send Ruby to Wano during the timeskip so she could get a Seastone blade instead of Haki) and it always feels like people forget how rare Seastone is.
Dopplerdee
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Aokiji lost a leg permeantly, so there's a definite limit to Logia.
Logia don't seem to be able to regenerate as such. But the Woods Woods fruit does because of it being a solid logia, same with the Ice Ice fruit. It stands to reason that if Aokiji can have scars so can Ruby.
The Woods Woods can't go intangible, it heals after damage. It is unclear how this interacts with Haki.
I checked that Vegapunk made Seastone for the Marines and of course he doesn't even share some Seastone to Monkey D. Dragon for his Revolutionary Army despite they are aware of how terrible the World Government is.
Aramaki got burned and pummeled a lot and yet he got off without scars after he regenerated from a sapling.
It would apply to Logia Ruby as well.
ThatOnePsycho
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I suppose I'll settle for "she could heal it if she wants to, but isn't in a good enough mental state at first"
That would be a nod to Monet who was not in the right mind after Zoro scared her to the point she forgot to regenerate when being cut despite being a Snow-Snow Fruit user.
Garm352
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Entirely valid - I haven't been checking the SB thread at all, so I missed that. My bad.
Another possibility for Adam in specific is that you could have his Semblance have changed a bit as a result of, well, dying. We know it's possible for Semblances to grow and change with the user over time, and Adam developing the ability to permanently mark those he strikes with his Semblance wouldn't be unreasonable given the weight he attributes to his own facial scarring and the mask.
Adam Taurus would need to fight a really strong enemy to push his Semblance to his limits and we know he runs away when things don't go his way as intended.
For Ruby Rose who at least had guts to stand and fight despite the greater odds, she can definitely push her Semblance to its limits and evolve it alongside mastering the Woods-Woods Fruit.
ThatOnePsycho
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To give you an ideas, another guys suggusted the same thing within minutes of you.
Dopplerdee
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Huh.... I guess the Woods Woods Fruit having the best regen of the Logia would make alot of sense.
It could also be a skill level thing. Greenbull is an admiral after all. He's a dick but he is skilled.
Plus Ruby would be able to grow lots of bountiful plantlife on Alabasta just by walking on it and can thrive there too. I mean if the plants made by Aramaki were able to remain despite Udon being a polluted wasteland, then Ruby's plants in a desert country will be there and beneficial to the people of Alabasta.
Also when at Alabasta with Straw Hats and Vivi, Ruby would be reminded about Vacuo, remembering the history lessons of said country that used to have bountiful resources before wars and exploitation from Atlas, and Grimm raids drained it dry. Which forced the people of Vacuo had to fight over what's left of resources to survive and develop disdain at their neighbors especially Atlas.
Which might give Ruby a chill down her spine upon realizing that she and her friends had sent the people of Atlas and Mantle to their slow demise at Vacuo after evacuating them through Ambrosius' network of golden bridges to a one way portal to the desert kingdom of Remnant.
Even if Shade Academy under Headmaster Theodore had responded in time to take those people from Atlas and Mantle in, they don't have enough resources to help them and it would cause some... tensions with the people of Vacuo.
Although depending on Ruby's current mindset in this story, she might still have some faith that Oscar Pine and his group would be able to mitigate the situation and find a solution around it.