The Grand Solar Rush - Asteroid colony management quest
- Thread starter Karf
- Start date
- Original Sci-Fi
- Location
- yorkshire
[X] Plan : Friends Close and Enemies Closer
- Location
- Brazil
Your plan is missing cultists mission.
@Traveller76
Your plan is also missing about the Azure investigators.
Your plan is also missing about the Azure investigators.
[X] Plan : New Ireland? More like no Ireland!
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Refuse
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Don't join
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Keep quiet
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Agree
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
This plan is to show we're very agreeable with working with other people on equal terms and are willing to trust others, but that we're not ok with the politics and the sneaky way New Ireland is trying to assert their power. The amount of times New Ireland subtly pushed things that would benefit them heavily as minor things or even concessions is baffling.
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Refuse
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Don't join
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Keep quiet
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Agree
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
This plan is to show we're very agreeable with working with other people on equal terms and are willing to trust others, but that we're not ok with the politics and the sneaky way New Ireland is trying to assert their power. The amount of times New Ireland subtly pushed things that would benefit them heavily as minor things or even concessions is baffling.
- Location
- Fort Worth, TX
This has been corrected
[X] Open invite
-[X] Little Klondike will become the group's primary food provider in exchange for providing reduced rates on food in 5 years time.
Here's my idea for a proposal. We'd need to heavily focus on food production to be ready for this in 5 years, but it'd give us lots of influence and would probably be an overall profit because we'd be spending on fuel
-[X] Little Klondike will become the group's primary food provider in exchange for providing reduced rates on food in 5 years time.
Here's my idea for a proposal. We'd need to heavily focus on food production to be ready for this in 5 years, but it'd give us lots of influence and would probably be an overall profit because we'd be spending on fuel
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- Location
- Brazil
[X] Plan Space Squids
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Refuse
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Take Part
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Share
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Refuse
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Take Part
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Share
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
We can also provide medical services. And going all in on food probably isn't wise.
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[X] Plan : An Open Hand
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Don't join
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Keep quiet
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Agree
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
I feel we should be as agreeable as possible when it comes to other powers.I am agreeing with the Embassy for two main reasons. One NI is still the big power on the block with near three times times our population and contracts the freighter we use. Second it was implied in the derision that if we do not agree to the embassy we could lose out on attending further conferences. As we are not in a position to have our own conference we need to still have a working relationship with NI.
[X] Plan : Friends Close and Enemies Closer
Also approval voting this plan but I do think we should let Azure Star put their spies on. They seem to like us and we should develop this relationship more.
-[X] Prismdust investment
--[X] Invest
-[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland embassy
--[X] Agree
-[X] New Ireland trade port
--[X] Refuse
-[X] Children of Dreamers mission
--[X] Don't join
-[X] Black site data
--[X] Keep quiet
-[X] Azure Star investigators
--[X] Agree
-[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
--[X] Side with Deckard Station
I feel we should be as agreeable as possible when it comes to other powers.I am agreeing with the Embassy for two main reasons. One NI is still the big power on the block with near three times times our population and contracts the freighter we use. Second it was implied in the derision that if we do not agree to the embassy we could lose out on attending further conferences. As we are not in a position to have our own conference we need to still have a working relationship with NI.
I don't think this is the time to propose something we will only be able to do in 5 years. It has been heavily implied that there will be more of these conferences at a later date, we can propose something like this when we have the capability.
[X] Plan : Friends Close and Enemies Closer
Also approval voting this plan but I do think we should let Azure Star put their spies on. They seem to like us and we should develop this relationship more.
- Location
- Fort Worth, TX
[X] Plan : Friends Close and Enemies Closer (with corrections)
[X] Prismdust investment
-[X] Invest
[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
-[X] Agree
[X] Children of Dreamers mission
-[X] Don't join
[X] New Ireland embassy
-[X] Agree
[X] New Ireland trade port
-[X] Refuse
[X] Black site data
-[X] Keep quiet
[X] Azure Star investigators
-[X] Refuse
[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
-[X] Side with Deckard Station
[X] Prismdust investment
-[X] Invest
[X] Children of Dreamers congregation
-[X] Agree
[X] Children of Dreamers mission
-[X] Don't join
[X] New Ireland embassy
-[X] Agree
[X] New Ireland trade port
-[X] Refuse
[X] Black site data
-[X] Keep quiet
[X] Azure Star investigators
-[X] Refuse
[X] Deckard vs Ironbond
-[X] Side with Deckard Station
- Location
- St. Petersburg
The problem with alienating people we don't like even further is, well...
So we have to play nice with Children of Dreamers, if only to prevent a possible blockade.
I am thinking about revealing the information about Blacksite. We aren't in a good position diplomatically, so maybe that would switch the focus away from us and give them something to worry about besides petty politicking. On the other hand, them poking it could weaken them if things go spectacularly bad...
We don't want to bank everything on a single ship because it makes those privateers a lot more dangerous, which forces us to go to Ironbond, and that is its own can of worms.
So we have to play nice with Children of Dreamers, if only to prevent a possible blockade.
And Ironbond are twisting our hand when it comes to the means of protecting our interests.
I am thinking about revealing the information about Blacksite. We aren't in a good position diplomatically, so maybe that would switch the focus away from us and give them something to worry about besides petty politicking. On the other hand, them poking it could weaken them if things go spectacularly bad...
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[X] Plan : New Ireland? More like no Ireland!
[X] Plan : An Open Hand
Based on the information we have so far this looks more like some kind of weird space anomaly than a hidden station.
* At least three different groups detected the signal independently so there's definitely something there.
* NI stated they'd already looked there and found nothing. This statement didn't show up as a lie.
* The source point is not in a stable orbit but it's maintaining it's position somehow with no signs of any engine burns.
If we're planning to investigate the Blacksite in the future then we'd probably want to involve ourselves in this expedition so that we have access to any data it obtains.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Can anyone make sense of that lie, specifically?
They know it's not comms fault they can't locate the vessel, so does that mean they are involved, or did they not weapons in the sector that much?
I can't think of many reasons why they would want to run Azure Star out of their space or otherwise pressure them.
NI knows that the communication equipment would not solve the piracy issue, after all the problem is not being able to tell people "hey pirates" but being able to fight them off and locate where they are based/who they are working with. I personally think that they just do not see the pirates as that big of a threat, they are not even attacking once per year and do not even take enough stuff to be a major threat, just a hiderence and a nuisance. Add to that the fact that NI has not been hit by it and they are just being pushy at trying to put forward that their idea would help fix the problem when they know it won't.
But that is me being charitable to them. The uncharitable interpretation is they are selling a bill of false goods on purpose not just to prop up their own interests but to hinder the competition, if they have made a deal with the pirates, or are even supporting them they could be used as a good tool and threat to get the sector to unite to fight them. Under NI of course. Or just let them attack rivals and the competition to keep them weaker allowing NI to maintain their dominate position in the sector. But the fact that the attacks are so rare and only targeting one group makes me think that this is untrue, but NI may know more about the pirates then they are letting on.
Assuming NI used standard signals methodology and properly calibrated equipment, they wouldn't have found anything. It was specifically called out when we saw the Blacksite that we only saw it because we'd kitbashed our comms/sensor suite together from scrap in a non-standard way and once we got our equipment working in the normal way the Blacksite disappeared from sensors.
I am curious as to why you think three different groups detected the signal independently - I know we detected it and the COD have figured out there's something there as well based on them wanting to go poke it, but I don't recall any third party speaking up about evidence. Yeah, Azure Star and NI have said they'd chip in, but that is probably more about cozying up to the COD rather than actually believing them about the signal or having found it themselves.
In addition to what Eldon said, it could also just be that NI really wants better comms infrastructure as part of their efforts to accumulate soft power - so they're pushing the comms as a solution for any problem that crops up in the hopes other people will chip in for/support their pet project.
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm not really happy with any of the plans as they stand. Here is my reasoning on each choice.
Prismdust investment
This seems almost universally popular and I agree that it gives us a large boost in influence and access to both more research partners and more resources.
Children of Dreamers congregation
I don't think we should allow this, as we aren't even sure what this cult's tendencies are.
Children of Dreamers mission
This however, has real tangible benefits for us and plays to some of Haley's strengths.
New Ireland embassy
The risks of missing out on what NI are up to, as well as regular in person relationships with the other factions are too high.
New Ireland trade port
This cedes far too much power to NI.
Black site data
We should do our own small scale Black site project next turn, so we have more info to trade with the Dreamers, or get far far away from space squids. It also sounds like it will help lower the DC of the hydrogen capture project, which will allow us to produce tons of water and fuel, both greatly needed by everybody.
Azure Star investigators
I see this as the best way to make inroads with people who have technologies we'd find useful, and we may be able to learn about them through the investigators.
Deckard vs Ironbond
Ironbond are jerks, while Deckard's helped us out. The decision is clear. The correct long term prisoner's dilemma solution is Firm but Fair.
For the write in, does any one have any ideas besides the food production angle? We definitely should do something.
Prismdust investment
This seems almost universally popular and I agree that it gives us a large boost in influence and access to both more research partners and more resources.
Children of Dreamers congregation
I don't think we should allow this, as we aren't even sure what this cult's tendencies are.
Children of Dreamers mission
This however, has real tangible benefits for us and plays to some of Haley's strengths.
New Ireland embassy
The risks of missing out on what NI are up to, as well as regular in person relationships with the other factions are too high.
New Ireland trade port
This cedes far too much power to NI.
Black site data
We should do our own small scale Black site project next turn, so we have more info to trade with the Dreamers, or get far far away from space squids. It also sounds like it will help lower the DC of the hydrogen capture project, which will allow us to produce tons of water and fuel, both greatly needed by everybody.
Azure Star investigators
I see this as the best way to make inroads with people who have technologies we'd find useful, and we may be able to learn about them through the investigators.
Deckard vs Ironbond
Ironbond are jerks, while Deckard's helped us out. The decision is clear. The correct long term prisoner's dilemma solution is Firm but Fair.
For the write in, does any one have any ideas besides the food production angle? We definitely should do something.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Welcome to politics?
They haven't made their powerplay to install someone else at the top. They have been open about that, at least, and promising their cooperation if we support them in turn... while not quite promising sabotage if we hurt their interests, but that much is implied.
Everyone are looking out for their interests. What we need to determine is where they align with ours.
That reminds me. Is there a reason we want to keep Azure Star out after spiting NI for them?
They haven't made their powerplay to install someone else at the top. They have been open about that, at least, and promising their cooperation if we support them in turn... while not quite promising sabotage if we hurt their interests, but that much is implied.
Everyone are looking out for their interests. What we need to determine is where they align with ours.
That reminds me. Is there a reason we want to keep Azure Star out after spiting NI for them?
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Other than that it is inviting known spies into our base who we do know are there for more than just finding pirates but not what else? The main reason would be to keep the aerogel a secret. So it is a bit of a risk in exchange for closer ties.