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DarkKing98 said:
Thank you for the correction.


Kaguya/Senju would be an interesting combo, but at the same time, I'm curious on how we can handle the whole 'being part of the Hyūga branch family' thing. The idea has never been shown to me before so I'm, unfortunately, invested in that.
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I'd really rather not go through a quest where we have a kill switch on us at all times, to be honest. If the Main House takes offence to us growing stronger than their children? Possible pain. We could be punished for arbitrary reasons and also be expected to be subservient... not something I'm looking forward to.

Another note would be that they probably would not look kindly on us if we deviated from the clan norms, like by trying to use archery and take advantage of our eyes that way, or by adding elemental affinities to Hyuuga techniques(though I'm not sure if that's more fanon.)
 
[X] Hyūga
[X] Neck length brown hair and Hyüga signature pale white eyes. White skin and a lithe, lean body for a newborn.

[X] Hayato Hyūga
[X] Brown hair down to the middle of his back, put in a pony tail. Leaf headband over his caged bird seal. Lithe, strong body. Frown marks around his lips and a perpetual stern looking face.
[X] Special Jounin

While I'd prefer to not be from any cannon clan, branch family Hyūga is pretty cool.
 
Funeral Pyre said:
I'd really rather not go through a quest where we have a kill switch on us at all times, to be honest. If the Main House takes offence to us growing stronger than their children? Possible pain. We could be punished for arbitrary reasons and also be expected to be subservient... not something I'm looking forward to.

Another note would be that they probably would not look kindly on us if we deviated from the clan norms, like by trying to use archery and take advantage of our eyes that way, or by adding elemental affinities to Hyuuga techniques(though I'm not sure if that's more fanon.)
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Honestly? To my memory, this is only stated by NEJI. You know, the dumbass who had quite the grudge against the main family? I don't put much weight behind those words besides malice. Especially considering the bullshit he pulled with Hinata.
 
DarkKing98 said:
Honestly? To my memory, this is only stated by NEJI. You know, the dumbass who had quite the grudge against the main family? I don't put much weight behind those words besides malice. Especially considering the bullshit he pulled with Hinata.
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Not a huge fan of Neji, but he did have a fair amount of righteous indignation that I will agree he took too damn far. To be fair, though, I don't have much faith in a Clan of people who place a seal on their relatives that basically makes them slaves.
 
Funeral Pyre said:
I'd really rather not go through a quest where we have a kill switch on us at all times, to be honest. If the Main House takes offence to us growing stronger than their children? Possible pain. We could be punished for arbitrary reasons and also be expected to be subservient... not something I'm looking forward to.

Another note would be that they probably would not look kindly on us if we deviated from the clan norms, like by trying to use archery and take advantage of our eyes that way, or by adding elemental affinities to Hyuuga techniques(though I'm not sure if that's more fanon.)
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Using Neji as an example, they probably won't care much if you are better than main family members. And being branch family, they probably won't be so strict on tradition on us, making it easier to change things up. For we are just a branch kid, who cares what we do. And I REALLY doubt we'd be the first one to do Archery.

Finally, we presumably could find a way to remove the seal. We are going to be awesome, so we can accomplish things others can't.
 
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We could go the half Uchiha/Senju with our grandparents being an Uzumaki on one side and a Hyuuga on the other, lol.
 
Funeral Pyre said:
Not a huge fan of Neji, but he did have a fair amount of righteous indignation that I will agree he took too damn far. To be fair, though, I don't have much faith in a Clan of people who place a seal on their relatives that basically makes them slaves.
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Oh yes, I won't deny that he does have a reason to be angry. But we also agree the dumbass went to far.

Also, if we show prodigal skill, they will have no choice but to keep us. Clan matters or not, getting rid of a useful tool for the village would cause the head of it to come crashing down on them.

Please note I don't hate the guy. Well, after he gets his ass kicked by Naruto.

Edit: Trondason raises a valid point. Actually, being great as a Branch member will probably feed their egos. If an 'inferior branch kid' can be this strong, then they will be able to produce a main family member better than us. At least, in their minds.
 
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Idea for the group, Katō Clan. The clan Tsunade's lover was a part of who would've recently died during the Second Shinobi World War. Just an idea though it seems people are primarily interested in Clans with tangible mechanical benefits (which is actually why Branch Family Hyuga is my favorite option suggested so far as it comes with its own drawback with the seal).

Also lets not get too odd in mixed lineage ideas, the clans rarely intermarried and produced mixed clan children until very recently in the cannon timeline.
 
Trondason said:
@Deathvon What do you plan to do with Shadow Clones? Are they going to be the OP Training Tool they are in Canon?
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...Hyūga with Shadow Clones.

...dear lord that's terrifying. Like, think about it. Even if we cut our chakra down to a third, you'd need to dodge the Gentle Fist from three different directions. And reminder, Gentle Fist is not that chakra draining. Hell, the most draining it would be is from the Byakugan.

Speaking of special eyes, reminder, gravity eyes if we can figure out how the hell to get them.
ComiTurtle said:
Idea for the group, Katō Clan. The clan Tsunade's lover was a part of who would've recently died during the Second Shinobi World War. Just an idea though it seems people are primarily interested in Clans with tangible mechanical benefits (which is actually why Branch Family Hyuga is my favorite option suggested so far as it comes with its own drawback with the seal).

Also lets not get too odd in mixed lineage ideas, the clans rarely intermarried and produced mixed clan children until very recently in the cannon timeline.
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This is true. Very true. It may also be because the clans are finally putting in stock on the idea of the village actually surviving whoever is in charge at that point.
 
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Shadow Clones Debuff!
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    • Shadow clones are op time to debuff them.

    1: They cost a lot of chakra the only reason Naruto could make so many was because he was an uzumaki AND the Kyuubi's jinchurki.
    2: When you do get enough chakra to not pass out it won't be a easy process like most things you will take a month in game time to learn, the really good stuff will take 3 to 6 months.
    3: At most if you do become a hyuga well they don't have a lot of chakra focusing on their Gentle Fist techinque instead of chakra, so at most you will be able to make 5 clones for an hour and that's stretching it.
     
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    • Deathvon said:
    Shadow clones are op time to debuff them.

    1: They cost a lot of chakra the only reason Naruto could make so many was because he was an uzumaki AND the Kyuubi's jinchurki.
    2: When you do get enough chakra to not pass out it won't be a easy process like most things you will take a month in game time to learn, the really good stuff will take 3 to 6 months.
    3: At most if you do become a hyuga well they don't have a lot of chakra focusing on their Gentle Fist techinque instead of chakra, so at most you will be able to make 5 clones for an hour and that's stretching it.
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    1. Naruto could spam it so much because he had enough Chakra to do so, yes. But that's the same reason why the training style paid off for him. Remember, Shadow Clones evenly split your Chakra between themselves and yourself. But I agree there's probably a cost to summon them as well.

    2. Sounds like a fair balancing idea.

    3. That's six Gentle Fist Users attacking you at probably the same time. Reminder that Gentle Fist is the most lethal Taijutsu style in existence since with a few pokes you can kill someone. It is also very disabling to Ninjutsu and Genjutsu specialists even when only landing a few hits.

    All in all, being a Hyūga benefits greatly combat wise from having just one Clone. Five? Oh, that's lethal as hell!
     
    Deathvon said:
    Shadow clones are op time to debuff them.

    1: They cost a lot of chakra the only reason Naruto could make so many was because he was an uzumaki AND the Kyuubi's jinchurki.
    2: When you do get enough chakra to not pass out it won't be a easy process like most things you will take a month in game time to learn, the really good stuff will take 3 to 6 months.
    3: At most if you do become a hyuga well they don't have a lot of chakra focusing on their Gentle Fist techinque instead of chakra, so at most you will be able to make 5 clones for an hour and that's stretching it.
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    1) cost a lot how so? As in, is there a flat cost we have to pay with the formation of each clone? Or do they drain chakra over time? Or what?
    2) So we got a major nerf from Canon, in how fast The Gamer can learn things. Though to be honest, a few months isn't that slow.
    Though, if they are so hard, how did Naruto learn it so fast?
    3) That's not too bad. Just 1 clone doubles training speed.
     
    Trondason said:
    Though, if they are so hard, how did Naruto learn it so fast?
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    Reminder that Naruto had a fuck ton of chakra to spare some several hours constantly training both a B-rank(Shadow Clone) and Forbidden A-rank(Multi Shadow Clone) without taking a break. It most likely being our inability to have as much chakra as he did to constantly train the Jutsu for hours on end without taking breaks.
     
    DarkKing98 said:
    Reminder that Naruto had a fuck ton of chakra to spare some several hours constantly training both a B-rank(Shadow Clone) and Forbidden A-rank(Multi Shadow Clone) without taking a break. It most likely being our inability to have as much chakra as he did to constantly train the Jutsu for hours on end without taking breaks.
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    Just the ability to keep practicing doesn't mean much when he still learned it so fast despite being terrible at jutsu. Certainly not to the point where it will take us 3 months to learn what he did in 3 hours (at the most).
     
    Trondason said:
    Just the ability to keep practicing doesn't mean much when he still learned it so fast despite being terrible at jutsu. Certainly not to the point where it will take us 3 months to learn what he did in 3 hours (at the most).
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    think reason for taking so long is the wait time to regen enough chakra to try again, where Naruto can keep trying over and over and over every few seconds
     
    Trondason said:
    Just the ability to keep practicing doesn't mean much when he still learned it so fast despite being terrible at jutsu. Certainly not to the point where it will take us 3 months to learn what he did in 3 hours (at the most).
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    tri2 said:
    think reason for taking so long is the wait time to regen enough chakra to try again, where Naruto can keep trying over and over and over every few seconds
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    Along with the fact that by the time we begin training for this, we'll have other duties as well to take care of. And friends to hang out with as well. Realistically speaking, we won't be spending every waking moment to train. Also, IC we won't be as motivated as Naruto.

    Also, Naruto is a prodigy at learning Jutsu. When given the chance at least.
     
    tri2 said:
    think reason for taking so long is the wait time to regen enough chakra to try again, where Naruto can keep trying over and over and over every few seconds
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    Let's be generous and say his regen is 100 times greater than ours (we are The Gamer, our regen is going to be impressive), and we learn as quickly as him despite him being a bit of an idiot and us being The Gamer. That means what he did in 3 hours we should be able to do in 300. 10 hours a day, that's 1 month. Not 3 plus.
    DarkKing98 said:
    Also, Naruto is a prodigy at learning Jutsu. When given the chance at least.
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    He never learned normal clones, and it wasn't until after learning Shadow Clones did he become good. I chalk up the incredible change in learning rates to said Shadow Clones. Every fight he fought, he fought several hundred times over. That translates to a lot of experience.
     
    Trondason said:
    Let's be generous and say his regen is 100 times greater than ours (we are The Gamer, our regen is going to be impressive), and we learn as quickly as him despite him being a bit of an idiot and us being The Gamer. That means what he did in 3 hours we should be able to do in 300. 10 hours a day, that's 1 month. Not 3 plus.

    He never learned normal clones, and it wasn't until after learning Shadow Clones did he become good. I chalk up the incredible change in learning rates to said Shadow Clones. Every fight he fought, he fought several hundred times over. That translates to a lot of experience.
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    On his regen, actually possible. When unexplainable, blame Kurama. Or Danzo/Tobi/Zetsu.

    Strangely enough, despite fanon stating otherwise, he just didn't put enough Chakra into his clones. Not too much. Strange, huh? But then, I assume that's to show his piss poor control. Remember, he completed the tree walking exercise around the same time Sasuke did, despite having much larger chakra reserves, and thus more shitty control. Dude's a 'prodigy' even if beginning beginning never made implication otherwise.
    Adhoc vote count started by DarkKing98 on Jan 8, 2018 at 7:13 AM, finished with 73 posts and 11 votes.
    • [X] Hyūga
      [X] Neck length brown hair and Hyüga signature pale white eyes. White skin and a lithe, lean body for a newborn.
      [X] Hayato Hyūga
      [X] Brown hair down to the middle of his back, put in a pony tail. Leaf headband over his caged bird seal. Lithe, strong body. Frown marks around his lips and a perpetual stern looking face.
      [X] Special Jounin
      [X] Uzumaki
      [X] Spikey pure white hair, tipped in crimson. You have unmistakeable purple eyes, and an eye-catching red dot above each eyebrow. Your skin is just a shade darker than pale, and you have a streamlined body built for combat.
      [X] Kaguya Kirito
      [X] Long, bone-white hair to his mid-back. One Teal eye, the other lost in action and covered in a white eyepatch crafted with his own bone and decorated with seals. Like his son, he too has red markings above his eyebrows.
      [X] Special Jonin
      [X] Uzumaki
      [X] Except with purple eyes. Your skin is just a shade darker than pale, and you have a streamlined body built for combat.
      [X] Kaguya Kirito
      [X] Long, bone-white hair to his mid-back. One Teal eye, the other lost in action and covered in a white eyepatch crafted with his own bone and decorated with seals.
      [X] Special Jonin
      [X] Akimichi
      [X] Emiya
      [X] red hair, tall, goodlooking
      [X] Kiritsugu
      [X] black hair, tall, bony
      [X] Special Jonin (Neutral Option)
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    DarkKing98 said:
    On his regen, actually possible. When unexplainable, blame Kurama. Or Danzo/Tobi/Zetsu.

    Strangely enough, despite fanon stating otherwise, he just didn't put enough Chakra into his clones. Not too much. Strange, huh? But then, I assume that's to show his piss poor control. Remember, he completed the tree walking exercise around the same time Sasuke did, despite having much larger chakra reserves, and thus more shitty control. Dude's a 'prodigy' even if beginning beginning never made implication otherwise.
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    While you can blame a lot of stuff on those people, but not everything. We actually get an estimation directly from Kakashi about how much chakra Naruto has, when he's not directly tapping into the Fox. Naruto has about 4 times as much Chakra as Kakashi. And Kakashi doesn't have ANYTHING special going for him. He has no special blood lines, he has no demon beasts, he wasn't even from a powerful clan. He was a prodigy, sure, but lots of people are. And this was Shippuden Naruto, Academy Naruto presumably has way less Chakra.

    Edit: Actually, that bit of the manga is worded awkwardly. Either Naruto has 4 times as much as Kakashi on his own and 100+x as much with borrowed Kurama energy that Yamato will help make safe, or he naturally has Kurama energy in him (don't need to conciously borrow more) and Yamato is sealing away those bits allowing him to only use his own which results in 4x instead of 100+x he's currently rocking. The latter possible interpretation means that Kakashi should be able to make dozens of clones to train with, since Naruto made hundreds/thousands while Yamato was there doing his thing, so I believe it means that naturally Naruto only has 4x without deliberately borrowing energy.

    Too much or too little, it's a canon example of him having a HARD AS HELL time learning jutsu. So we don't got much reason to think we'd be as slow as him.

    The time he matched Sasuke on learning to climb trees was AFTER learning, and thoroughly abusing, Shadow Clones. He wasn't using them explicitly to train, but he used them in every battle, in mass. Months or Years (depending on how many he made for that battle) of fighting experience, gathered every fight. Odds are his Chakra Control and general skill went up over those many battles, the dividends of which we see during his far faster learning rate during the series.




    I suppose one easy answer would be, Naruto couldn't learn it so fast in this AU. Things are different, and even if we didn't pick this spot of the timeline, Naruto wouldn't have learned it as fast as he did. That, or Naruto is different from Canon.
     
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    [X] Emiya
    [X] red hair, tall, goodlooking
    [X] Kiritsugu
    [X] black hair, tall, bony
    [X] Special Jonin (Neutral Option)
     
    [X] Hyūga
    [X] Neck length brown hair and Hyüga signature pale white eyes. White skin and a lithe, lean body for a newborn.

    [X] Hayato Hyūga
    [X] Brown hair down to the middle of his back, put in a pony tail. Leaf headband over his caged bird seal. Lithe, strong body. Frown marks around his lips and a perpetual stern looking face.
    [X] Special Jounin
     
    Trondason said:
    While you can blame a lot of stuff on those people, but not everything. We actually get an estimation directly from Kakashi about how much chakra Naruto has, when he's not directly tapping into the Fox. Naruto has about 4 times as much Chakra as Kakashi. And Kakashi doesn't have ANYTHING special going for him. He has no special blood lines, he has no demon beasts, he wasn't even from a powerful clan. He was a prodigy, sure, but lots of people are. And this was Shippuden Naruto, Academy Naruto presumably has way less Chakra.

    Edit: Actually, that bit of the manga is worded awkwardly. Either Naruto has 4 times as much as Kakashi on his own and 100+x as much with borrowed Kurama energy that Yamato will help make safe, or he naturally has Kurama energy in him (don't need to conciously borrow more) and Yamato is sealing away those bits allowing him to only use his own which results in 4x instead of 100+x he's currently rocking. The latter possible interpretation means that Kakashi should be able to make dozens of clones to train with, since Naruto made hundreds/thousands while Yamato was there doing his thing, so I believe it means that naturally Naruto only has 4x without deliberately borrowing energy.

    Too much or too little, it's a canon example of him having a HARD AS HELL time learning jutsu. So we don't got much reason to think we'd be as slow as him.

    The time he matched Sasuke on learning to climb trees was AFTER learning, and thoroughly abusing, Shadow Clones. He wasn't using them explicitly to train, but he used them in every battle, in mass. Months or Years (depending on how many he made for that battle) of fighting experience, gathered every fight. Odds are his Chakra Control and general skill went up over those many battles, the dividends of which we see during his far faster learning rate during the series.




    I suppose one easy answer would be, Naruto couldn't learn it so fast in this AU. Things are different, and even if we didn't pick this spot of the timeline, Naruto wouldn't have learned it as fast as he did. That, or Naruto is different from Canon.
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    I just want to point out the stupidity that is arguing over what the main character of a shounen manga can do compared to us. But I admit, this is a needed debate.

    As much as I hate to incorporate unconfirmed fanon into this argument, this might be our QM's reasoning as to why Naruto could learn it so fast compared to us.

    Fanon speculates that the Shadow Clone Training method is a mentally strainous process. And that Kurama helps with taking care of that mental strain so the brain doesn't shut off. Presumably the same thing might go into learning the Shadow Clone Jutsu as well.

    But that's an idea I distaste in using without knowledge of it being the case. So I apologize for bringing it up. I'm just trying to come up with a justifiable reasoning.
    Adhoc vote count started by DarkKing98 on Jan 8, 2018 at 9:16 AM, finished with 75 posts and 12 votes.
    • [X] Uzumaki
      [X] Spikey pure white hair, tipped in crimson. You have unmistakeable purple eyes, and an eye-catching red dot above each eyebrow. Your skin is just a shade darker than pale, and you have a streamlined body built for combat.
      [X] Kaguya Kirito
      [X] Long, bone-white hair to his mid-back. One Teal eye, the other lost in action and covered in a white eyepatch crafted with his own bone and decorated with seals. Like his son, he too has red markings above his eyebrows.
      [X] Special Jonin
      [X] Hyūga
      [X] Neck length brown hair and Hyüga signature pale white eyes. White skin and a lithe, lean body for a newborn.
      [X] Hayato Hyūga
      [X] Brown hair down to the middle of his back, put in a pony tail. Leaf headband over his caged bird seal. Lithe, strong body. Frown marks around his lips and a perpetual stern looking face.
      [X] Special Jounin
      [X] Uzumaki
      [X] Except with purple eyes. Your skin is just a shade darker than pale, and you have a streamlined body built for combat.
      [X] Kaguya Kirito
      [X] Long, bone-white hair to his mid-back. One Teal eye, the other lost in action and covered in a white eyepatch crafted with his own bone and decorated with seals.
      [X] Special Jonin
      [X] Akimichi
      [X] Emiya
      [X] red hair, tall, goodlooking
      [X] Kiritsugu
      [X] black hair, tall, bony
      [X] Special Jonin (Neutral Option)
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    [X] Uzumaki
    [X] Spikey pure white hair, tipped in crimson. You have unmistakeable purple eyes, and an eye-catching red dot above each eyebrow. Your skin is just a shade darker than pale, and you have a streamlined body built for combat.

    [X] Kaguya Kirito
    [X] Long, bone-white hair to his mid-back. One Teal eye, the other lost in action and covered in a white eyepatch crafted with his own bone and decorated with seals. Like his son, he too has red markings above his eyebrows.
    [X] Special Jonin
     
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