The Gamer Discussion, Fic Ideas, and Recommendation Thread

Questions to whoever reads this.

How OP can a random person with the Gamer power can get in a setting like Assassin's Creed with the skill Observe at Max Level?

No such thing as 'random person' with the Gamer. They immediately jump to the top of the food chain if they are given any training time.
I'd give it a week before he can flat out ignore every human-scale threat if he tries.

Or has all skills that you can learn in Harry Potter with loot that comes with the setting in the Dungeons and Dragons universe?

Omnipotent.

I think you underestimate how batshit insane the Gamer Power as written in the Manwha is. He masters skills within hours, something that takes years normally. Those skills can then do things the original skill CANNOT.
For example, the Healing skill Han picks up cannot put Sick!Girl's illness into remission in it's base form but Gamer!Healing can temporarily.
And you are thinking of giving him an Item of WISH, a Spellbook, Gloves of Missile Deflection (sorry bullets don't work any more). And also Harry Potter spells, because the Killing Curse totally isn't Overpowered
 
How OP can a random person with the Gamer power can get in a setting like Assassin's Creed with the skill Observe at Max Level?
Do they just have Observe, or is it the whole shebang? If it's the former... eh? If it's the latter, they can basically walk through their opposition until they run into one of the Pieces of Eden, at which point it turns into a Vs. debate.

Or has all skills that you can learn in Harry Potter with loot that comes with the setting in the Dungeons and Dragons universe?
Given some time, I'm sure I could find an extensive list of ludicrously overpowered exploits using D&D items (dependent on which version; 4e was actually really hard to break with just items). The stuff they'd pick up from Harry Potter is also incredibly over-powered; just Legilimency (i.e. mind-reading) is incredibly strong, and at higher skill levels they'll have at-will teleportation, free-form transformation magic, a broad arsenal of nasty combat spells to choose from, and an even broader array of utility spells. They'll also be able to predict the future in various ways, do whatever the fuck runes do, fucking Alchemy, enchanting, probably necromancy, etc.

There might be some early growing pains, but given that one use of Legilimency seems to be inserting things (dreams, at least, so probably thoughts, too) into people's heads in addition to getting reading their thoughts, it honestly would probably turn into a stompfic pretty quick; grinding Legilimency would be only slightly harder than grinding Observe, and that alone would turn most social conflict into smooth sailing, and massively ease combat.
 
Being fair, that use of Legilimency required a mental connection independent of the skill itself (the Horcrux link).
It is unknown if you could do that outside of the connection, the only non-Harry/Voldemort use we saw was Mind Reading.

Ancient Runes in canon is simply Latin Class for wizards, an ancient dead language that would be useful for Historians and Archaeologists (which is a thriving and deadly career in the HP universe)
 
I've wanted to see a more mundane Gamer fic. Like a Gamer fanfic for a sports Shonen manga in which the Gamer competes with other hot blooded talents to reach the peak.
 
I've wanted to see a more mundane Gamer fic. Like a Gamer fanfic for a sports Shonen manga in which the Gamer competes with other hot blooded talents to reach the peak.
Well... if we put in a specialized Gamer System instead of the traditional version, then sure, I suppose it could work, but the regular Gamer would be busted beyond all hell.

Heck, you might even need to disable Magic or Mana-Related Skills for the Player to not curb-stomp the competition.
 
Anyone have a good gamer multiverse fic here? Preferably with OC or SI.
The Root of Darkness springs to my mind.

Granted, it's not an immediate multiverse fic, but it has rather recently become one, although it remains to be seen whether or not this small universe travelling will be cut short.

Although personally, I'm not one for Multiverse Gamer SIs, since it feels like those get really hokey really fast....unless it's a Kingdom Hearts fic, in which case, I don't give a flying hoot. Granted, I haven't found any KH/Gamer SI fics, only KH SI fics, and even then, those are from just one guy.


Also, just wondering, does anyone know of a good Pokemon/Gamer fic, preferably with a SI, but if there isn't one with an SI, still feel free to mention it.
 
If you had the Gamer power and you were Level 1 with Only the Gamer Mind lvl Max, Gamer Body lvl Max, and Observe lvl Max skills.

And you had to go through Dark Souls 1, 2, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3 back to back and you could Not die once or you are permanently dead. Only Bloodborne lets you have unlimited live while you are in that game.

What would you do? Also the only thing in your Inventory is Unlimited Food and Water.
 
If you had the Gamer power and you were Level 1 with Only the Gamer Mind lvl Max, Gamer Body lvl Max, and Observe lvl Max skills.

And you had to go through Dark Souls 1, 2, Bloodborne, and Dark Souls 3 back to back and you could Not die once or you are permanently dead. Only Bloodborne lets you have unlimited live while you are in that game.

What would you do? Also the only thing in your Inventory is Unlimited Food and Water.
TBH, I'd probably do this.

1: Shit my pants out of fear.
2: DIE!!!

The Video Game Plot | FanFiction
This community has almost all the gamer fics on fanfiction in it. Quality is not assured as they just puts every single gamer fic they can find in it.
Yeah, I know that the quality is wibbly-wobbly. Heck, even some of my own stories, which I'm too lazy to post here, are added there.
 
Dark Souls: Farm souls with low level enemies. I would also grind for upgrade material as well. Get the Baller Swag Sword.

Bloodborne: Play it normally.
 
Well... if we put in a specialized Gamer System instead of the traditional version, then sure, I suppose it could work, but the regular Gamer would be busted beyond all hell.
Yeah, the regular Gamer really can't specialize except as Caster versus Physical because of the stat setup. Sure, there's ability specialization, but that's it.
Speaking of which, ditched my original Gamer idea and adapted it, and came up with a new stat system with a bit more specialization. There's nine stats in three categories.

Kinetic: FOR, AGI, DMP
FOR- Force. Basically a strength stat. Determines power of some kinds of physical abilities.
AGI - Agility. Raw speed and acceleration
DMP - Damping. Maneuverability, screwing over inertia, resisting being pulled/pushed around
All of these control "Stamina" capacity and regen (10 minute regen)

Bio: HRD, ASB, SGM
HRD - Harden. Provides damage resistance. (Protects versus everything)
ASB - Absorb. Reduces the incoming damage from attacks by a fixed amount. (Protects versus weak attacks)
SGM - Segment. Segments health in chunks. Damage that leaks over to the next segement is reduced, then subject to HRD and ASB again. (Protects versus strong attacks)
All of these control Health capacity and regen (30 minute regen)

I need to work on scaling for this, because I just ran the numbers and the amount of damage needed to kill them grows exponentially. At 10s, it's a under a ton of TNT. At 40s, the Tsar Bomba couldn't one-hit them. Oh, but 120 sniper rounds could kill them. Oh, and once in the 70s they can withstand an attack that would blow up the Earth. While being vulnerable to 630 sniper rounds.

Mana: PRJ, EMT, INJ
PRJ - Projectors. Determines power of long-range/single target spells
EMT - Emitters. Determines power of close-in spells (like shield bubbles, area heals, etc.)
INJ - Injectors. Determines power of self-targeting spells
All of these control Mana capacity and regen (10 minute regen)
 
Yeah, the regular Gamer really can't specialize except as Caster versus Physical because of the stat setup. Sure, there's ability specialization, but that's it.
Speaking of which, ditched my original Gamer idea and adapted it, and came up with a new stat system with a bit more specialization. There's nine stats in three categories.

Kinetic: FOR, AGI, DMP
FOR- Force. Basically a strength stat. Determines power of some kinds of physical abilities.
AGI - Agility. Raw speed and acceleration
DMP - Damping. Maneuverability, screwing over inertia, resisting being pulled/pushed around
All of these control "Stamina" capacity and regen (10 minute regen)

Bio: HRD, ASB, SGM
HRD - Harden. Provides damage resistance. (Protects versus everything)
ASB - Absorb. Reduces the incoming damage from attacks by a fixed amount. (Protects versus weak attacks)
SGM - Segment. Segments health in chunks. Damage that leaks over to the next segement is reduced, then subject to HRD and ASB again. (Protects versus strong attacks)
All of these control Health capacity and regen (30 minute regen)

I need to work on scaling for this, because I just ran the numbers and the amount of damage needed to kill them grows exponentially. At 10s, it's a under a ton of TNT. At 40s, the Tsar Bomba couldn't one-hit them. Oh, but 120 sniper rounds could kill them. Oh, and once in the 70s they can withstand an attack that would blow up the Earth. While being vulnerable to 630 sniper rounds.

Mana: PRJ, EMT, INJ
PRJ - Projectors. Determines power of long-range/single target spells
EMT - Emitters. Determines power of close-in spells (like shield bubbles, area heals, etc.)
INJ - Injectors. Determines power of self-targeting spells
All of these control Mana capacity and regen (10 minute regen)
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Okay, that's a really detailed version of the Gamer. Personally, I just use the basic stats from The Gamer, aside from Luck, which I replace with Agility (AGI), and then just add some random stat, depending on the series I make it about.

More often than not I end up adding another MP-Esque stat, like say, Reiryoku from Bleach, or Aura from RWBY, in which case, I usually just combine the six main stats together.

Although, I have been wondering how to handle Chakra, Nen or Dying Will Flame. Any suggestions on that?
 
Okay, that's a really detailed version of the Gamer.
Yup. Original universe here. And I wanted to have multiple Gamers with different roles (enforce by stats) so I made a more complex system.

Personally, I just use the basic stats from The Gamer, aside from Luck, which I replace with Agility (AGI), and then just add some random stat, depending on the series I make it about.

More often than not I end up adding another MP-Esque stat, like say, Reiryoku from Bleach, or Aura from RWBY, in which case, I usually just combine the six main stats together.

Although, I have been wondering how to handle Chakra, Nen or Dying Will Flame. Any suggestions on that?
... as the MP? I mean, I haven't really heard about the last two. And I'm assuming you mean Chakra from Naurto, in which case you could either do as the MP or two pools of Yin and Yang Chakra (though we never really see the effect of the different chakras in the series, or at least I didn't.)

I at one point considered doing a Pokemon gamefic, and decided to give each pokemon a pool of PP or each type of move it could use (Normal, Rock, Steel, Fighting, etc) rather than each move individually. This simplifies the problem of tracking all the different PP a bit, and makes a bit more sense in-universe as well.

I suppose you should consider what your system says about the character and how they're supposed to act.
 
Well... if we put in a specialized Gamer System instead of the traditional version, then sure, I suppose it could work, but the regular Gamer would be busted beyond all hell.

Heck, you might even need to disable Magic or Mana-Related Skills for the Player to not curb-stomp the competition.

Funny thing is, I don't believe that "regular Gamer system" exists. The closest thing is what I call "Gamer system that's overused because everyone blindly copy pastes from that one manhwa or other fanfic". Giving a Gamer in a shonen sports series mana and mana related skills would be like giving a Gamer in Naruto mana and mana related skills.
 
... as the MP? I mean, I haven't really heard about the last two. And I'm assuming you mean Chakra from Naurto, in which case you could either do as the MP or two pools of Yin and Yang Chakra (though we never really see the effect of the different chakras in the series, or at least I didn't.)
Yin chakra is what's used for Genjutsu, and the Kagemane Jutsu, and possibly for the Yamanaka's mind techniques. Yin chakra is more or less about "creating shape", unless I remember wrong.

Yang chakra is about "breathing life into the shape", A.K.A, making the illusion real, which I suppose explains how Naruto was able to turn into a shuriken for Sasuke to throw, and by my theory, it's also used for the Akimichi's size-aötering techniques, and heavily tied to the Mokuton.

See, the idea in my head is to make CP bar, and the formula for CP is admittedly a bit lazy (Vitality+Strength+Intelligence+Wisdom), although I am kinda planning an alternate version of that formula (HP+MP).

I at one point considered doing a Pokemon gamefic, and decided to give each pokemon a pool of PP or each type of move it could use (Normal, Rock, Steel, Fighting, etc) rather than each move individually. This simplifies the problem of tracking all the different PP a bit, and makes a bit more sense in-universe as well.
Alright, so got a formula for that?


Funny thing is, I don't believe that "regular Gamer system" exists. The closest thing is what I call "Gamer system that's overused because everyone blindly copy pastes from that one manhwa or other fanfic".
Dude, the reason why most people use it is because most Gamer stories are situated in a world where the one from the Manhwa works, I.E, the RPG version, although personally, I would remove Luck as a stat that you can upgrade by doing some trivial task, like flipping a coin and calling it right.

Giving a Gamer in a shonen sports series mana and mana related skills would be like giving a Gamer in Naruto mana and mana related skills.
Aah, no, no it isn't. Naruto characters, more often than not have something that balances Magic out, or rather, in their world, nobody would bat an eye if you suddenly used a magic skill, like say, shooting a blast of fire, or creating golems from the ground.

In a sports anime, even a shone sports series, doing that kind of shit would get you off the playing area faster than you can call "bullshit".

Personally, the only Shonen Sports series I can tolerate, and not balk at, is Eyeshield 21, and you know why? Because in Eyeshield 21, the "special moves" aren't some magic stuff that would be right at home in a proper shonen fighting series. I mean, seriously, if you can sprout wings from your back, fly up, and launch a bolt of lightning by kicking, then why even bother with the sport, just fight.
 
Funny thing is, I don't believe that "regular Gamer system" exists. The closest thing is what I call "Gamer system that's overused because everyone blindly copy pastes from that one manhwa or other fanfic". Giving a Gamer in a shonen sports series mana and mana related skills would be like giving a Gamer in Naruto mana and mana related skills.
Only if you rigidly adhere to A) the idea of mana as presented in the manhwa and B) the assumption that mana usage indicates obvious magic, rather than being a resource intended to limit skill usage (so it can be freely renamed to chakra, stamina, etc., if you feel so inclined).

If you use "mana" as a catch-all system term for "the stuff that powers skills", then you can port it into a series like Kuroko no Basket, Haikyuu, Free!, Ranma 1/2, Naruto, Gundam, Gurren Lagann, etc. This assumption is also used by games like Maplestory, which uses MP for almost all of its classes - including the ones that are almost entirely cast as using non-magical abilities.
 
I've wanted to see a more mundane Gamer fic. Like a Gamer fanfic for a sports Shonen manga in which the Gamer competes with other hot blooded talents to reach the peak.
I remember reading somewhere a Gamer fic based in Hikaru No Go where the main character of that manga had the Gamer powers.....and he only got EXP from playing Go games. And that the MC did not like Go at all and was super salty when he found out that he was, in fact, not going to get to become a Final Fantasy but become a Go nerd instead. And get GO NERD MAGICAL BULLSHIT.

So yeah, it is a thing that could happen, a Gamer fic that didn't involve RPG super powered mechanics....but its really unlikely as RPG super powers are really fun and easy for people to write up.
 
Yin chakra is what's used for Genjutsu, and the Kagemane Jutsu, and possibly for the Yamanaka's mind techniques. Yin chakra is more or less about "creating shape", unless I remember wrong.

Yang chakra is about "breathing life into the shape", A.K.A, making the illusion real, which I suppose explains how Naruto was able to turn into a shuriken for Sasuke to throw, and by my theory, it's also used for the Akimichi's size-aötering techniques, and heavily tied to the Mokuton.
Let me put it another way: we don't, in the series, ever see someone run out of either ying or yang chakra, it's always just chakra depletion. Granted I didn't read all the way through (I stopped sometime after the start of the 4th great ninja war) but it's just treated as Chakra. Even if they do different things, we never see that in the manga. And the first explanations IIRC don't mention Yin and Yang, just the total pool. The main mention of different types comes when learning Sage Mode, and it turns out that it can be used like any other Chakra.
See, the idea in my head is to make CP bar, and the formula for CP is admittedly a bit lazy (Vitality+Strength+Intelligence+Wisdom), although I am kinda planning an alternate version of that formula (HP+MP).
Except you mention having both a MP and CP bar. What the functional difference between those two? Is there anything going on there besides "special snowflake" and adding another random number for you and the auidence to keep track of?
Alright, so got a formula for that?
Not really. That's something you have to work out based on your story and how powerful you want your characters to be.
 
Dude, the reason why most people use it is because most Gamer stories are situated in a world where the one from the Manhwa works, I.E, the RPG version, although personally, I would remove Luck as a stat that you can upgrade by doing some trivial task, like flipping a coin and calling it right.

Aah, no, no it isn't. Naruto characters, more often than not have something that balances Magic out, or rather, in their world, nobody would bat an eye if you suddenly used a magic skill, like say, shooting a blast of fire, or creating golems from the ground.

In a sports anime, even a shone sports series, doing that kind of shit would get you off the playing area faster than you can call "bullshit".

Personally, the only Shonen Sports series I can tolerate, and not balk at, is Eyeshield 21, and you know why? Because in Eyeshield 21, the "special moves" aren't some magic stuff that would be right at home in a proper shonen fighting series. I mean, seriously, if you can sprout wings from your back, fly up, and launch a bolt of lightning by kicking, then why even bother with the sport, just fight.

I don't have a problem with the Gamer system itself. Other than some cringe at how grinding makes it more optimal to not spend stat points as long as possible. Or luck/wisdom depending on how it's implemented. Or several details about Gamer's Mind. And the degree I have those complaints actually varies from fic to fic, so it's possible for a Gamer fic to have those features without triggering me. What I do have a problem with is when the thing I read a fic for is just copy pasted from everywhere else, regardless of whether or not it actually fits. Or that I read Gamer fics because I find Gamer stuff fascinating, but the authors apparently can't even be bothered to put thought into it.

Being a video game character doesn't mean you can use magic. Video game characters can use magic because their setting has magic use and said characters can use magic in lore. In a Naruto RPG, all the characters, including custom characters made by the player or whatever, would use Chakra.
 
Though if someone tried to play up the difference between the systems, that might make a somewhat interesting story as then the Gamer in question would be someone people would notice as being Unusual and Unique and therefore, someone to be desired as theirs by hook or by crook or someone to be destroyed before their opposition can acquire them.
 
TBH, I'd probably do this.

1: Shit my pants out of fear.
2: DIE!!!

Yeah, I know that the quality is wibbly-wobbly. Heck, even some of my own stories, which I'm too lazy to post here, are added there.
Infinite food and water.....

what TYPE of food?

drown them in water, flatten them in bread...
Also, just wondering, does anyone know of a good Pokemon/Gamer fic, preferably with a SI, but if there isn't one with an SI, still feel free to mention it.
I attempted to start a Gamer!Wimpod (future multicross) SI.

.....and then i realized i have absolutely no writing talent...

like "ooh, i'm a WImpod with Gamer, so i'll spam the whole "gamers heal with food" and "WImpod can eat anything" bit, and dodge everything else while using the fact i can breath underwater and can learn hydromancy to my advantage" and then i realised i had ideas for scenes, but no idea how to get to them...
 
Personally, I've been dabbling with the idea of a Gamer SI being born in Dark City, y'know, that city that has two groups in a gang war to decide who becomes the official Gym, and well, it hasn't gotten a lot of attention.

Granted, that might be because I used an Anime-Only town, and leghtened the time the conflict has been going on from 2 years to a little over a decade.
How would the Gamer even work in poke world? The only actually powers humans can get that's at all explored are psychic and aura. There was that one witch character but that was never made clear what was going on. Would it just give your Pokémon team a leveling system and the ability to spontaneously learn new moves which the anime already seems to give them? I'm not trying to be belittling or anything I'm just genuinely confused.
 
How would the Gamer even work in poke world? The only actually powers humans can get that's at all explored are psychic and aura. There was that one witch character but that was never made clear what was going on. Would it just give your Pokémon team a leveling system and the ability to spontaneously learn new moves which the anime already seems to give them? I'm not trying to be belittling or anything I'm just genuinely confused.
Make the player a pokemon?
 
Make the player a pokemon?
A valid strategy that I've seen in a fic that never actually started but that poses other issues. Is the gamer limited to the normal moveset? Or just their type moves and maybe normal? Do they have the potential to learn every move? If so, what species should they be anyway since it'd be mostly fluff once they get rolling? Logistiiiics!?!?! This is why I never wrote any of my three book ideas.
 
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