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That just makes me want a Fury pov chapter, maybe one from various organizations about what Luthor and Lexcorp has changed.
The Ambitions of Lex Luthor (DCEU/MCU SI)
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Fury would most likely call in some favor from Talos and his wife Soren to some investigation for him while being in human disguise of different individuals.
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- Puerto Rico
Awesome chapters.
With the existence of DC Olympus, this Destroyer might be like the comics version, which was created by Odin, Zeus and Vishnu to fight against Celestials.
Lex should be careful when dealing with the Destroyer since this is a change universe.
With the existence of DC Olympus, this Destroyer might be like the comics version, which was created by Odin, Zeus and Vishnu to fight against Celestials.
Now I wonder what would Lex do if he was voted in (without any input from him, completely by surprise) by the public putting his name in the write-in during the elections.
Well this is a fun romp. I've been reading it on a phone for a while but now I'm finally on a laptop with a decent keyboard and can comment - so this is all the accumulated thoughts in one long post.
First I'll say that I like the story. It's nice to see a DC/Marvel story where the status quo is breached and Earth actually is advanced by all that super tech in comics. I especially appreciates the added images, which helps me visualise what this new world looks like.
The only concern I have is that when binging the story it seems like everything just goes the main character's way. No setbacks, hiccups or miscalculations. I'm not saying that suddenly everything should go wrong, but considering that this is an amalgamation of DC and Marvel universe (where villains pop up like daisies and weird shit happens every Thursday) there really should be a whole bunch of small fires to put out along the way.
It doesn't need to be a big part of the story, just have it mentioned in passing. Like Mercy giving a report of how Extremis has been widely spread, but that many religious fundamentalists are protesting it or refusing its use (which Alex would likely just shrug at and point out that it is a self correcting problem in time, and that they likely will change their tune after the first couple of alien invasions) or mention how one of Lexcorps' new factory sites turned out to be actually haunted by some supernatural creature, which meant he had to chase down and employ a magic expert, and what a pain that was.
Nothing much. Just these small problems that always crops up in any bigger undertaking. Like in this chapter he complained about the small-mindedness of the politicians on the UN, which immediately made the story feel more grounded.
Having things like this in a story makes it feel like things actually takes effort, which emphasizes how great these accomplishments are. It also gives the main character a chance to demonstrate his competence by handling these problems, and show his genre savvyness by having him anticipate the disruptions before they happened. Basically, it gives the character a chance to show off and show his abilities instead of just having the reader informed about them.
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About Mutants. You wrote that you don't plan to include the X-men because all the trouble with time travel and the Phoenix Force. That's completely understandable, since those whole storylines would be incredibly hard to work with, but if you want to you can ignore most of those complicated parts and still use the characters in a simplified form.
This is a mixed universe, so it is expected that the origin of characters would change. Just pick some of your favourites, note down a simplified origin that works for this story, and include them of you like. If in this universe Jean Gray just is a powerful telepath and telekinetic, with a patronage from the Phoenix Force that grants her some extra abilities involving cleansing flames and life without the complications from being an avatar, that works fine, for example.
If you want a suggestion for how to work mutants into this universe, here's my idea:
In this mixed universe there are several kinds of metahumans. The X, M, N, and, O-metas.
The N-metas are near-human or mixed blood people like Atlanteans, Inhumans, Amazons, and all people with a mix of blood from aliens and/or magical beings/people.
The O-metas are naturalized Outsiders like Superman, Martian Manhunter, and other extraterrestrial or extradimensional aliens who now call Earth home.
The M-metas are DC style metahumans and Marvel's Mutates like Spiderman, Flash, the Fantastic Four, and all the other people who got their powers triggered by some exotic accident or exposure.
Lastly there is the X-metas who have the X-gene like all of Marvel's Mutants.
The difference between M-metas and X-metas are that M-metas have the M-gene and need some type of trigger event involving exotic energies/elements/etc. to manifest their powers, while X-metas have the X-gene and their powers suddenly and spontaneously manifest at birth or during puberty. It is also common that X-metas manifest their powers during periods of mundane stress - like car accidents, assaults, or other non-exotic stressors, which means that the trigger event still might end up being quite violent.
In this world Xavier would still run his school, but for all types of young metas who need to learn to control their powers. The majority of the students are X-metas due to how their powers works, but there's a mix of other types as well.
The X-men would work as a rapid response or intervention team that both protect the public from rampaging metas, and metas from attacks by non-metas, but the group specializes in finding and helping metas with newly manifested powers that might be out of control. Basically, self-policing of metas by metas for both practical and political reasons - which might discourage things like the meta registration acts.
Since the metas are more diverse in this world mutant supremacy never got off the ground like in Marvel, and Magneto and his followers are more of an antihero and vigilante organization who focuses on making sure metas aren't exploited as living weapons or experimented on. They often raid both secret government bases and installations made by organizations like Hydra to free metas and destroy unethical research on/about them (which has made many governments classify them as terrorists). Magneto obviously hates Hydra, and might be a good ally for Alex when it comes to rooting them out.
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Wow, this got long. I'll stop here and just say you captured my imagination and that I'm looking forwards to next chapter.
First I'll say that I like the story. It's nice to see a DC/Marvel story where the status quo is breached and Earth actually is advanced by all that super tech in comics. I especially appreciates the added images, which helps me visualise what this new world looks like.
The only concern I have is that when binging the story it seems like everything just goes the main character's way. No setbacks, hiccups or miscalculations. I'm not saying that suddenly everything should go wrong, but considering that this is an amalgamation of DC and Marvel universe (where villains pop up like daisies and weird shit happens every Thursday) there really should be a whole bunch of small fires to put out along the way.
It doesn't need to be a big part of the story, just have it mentioned in passing. Like Mercy giving a report of how Extremis has been widely spread, but that many religious fundamentalists are protesting it or refusing its use (which Alex would likely just shrug at and point out that it is a self correcting problem in time, and that they likely will change their tune after the first couple of alien invasions) or mention how one of Lexcorps' new factory sites turned out to be actually haunted by some supernatural creature, which meant he had to chase down and employ a magic expert, and what a pain that was.
Nothing much. Just these small problems that always crops up in any bigger undertaking. Like in this chapter he complained about the small-mindedness of the politicians on the UN, which immediately made the story feel more grounded.
Having things like this in a story makes it feel like things actually takes effort, which emphasizes how great these accomplishments are. It also gives the main character a chance to demonstrate his competence by handling these problems, and show his genre savvyness by having him anticipate the disruptions before they happened. Basically, it gives the character a chance to show off and show his abilities instead of just having the reader informed about them.
-.-.-.-
About Mutants. You wrote that you don't plan to include the X-men because all the trouble with time travel and the Phoenix Force. That's completely understandable, since those whole storylines would be incredibly hard to work with, but if you want to you can ignore most of those complicated parts and still use the characters in a simplified form.
This is a mixed universe, so it is expected that the origin of characters would change. Just pick some of your favourites, note down a simplified origin that works for this story, and include them of you like. If in this universe Jean Gray just is a powerful telepath and telekinetic, with a patronage from the Phoenix Force that grants her some extra abilities involving cleansing flames and life without the complications from being an avatar, that works fine, for example.
If you want a suggestion for how to work mutants into this universe, here's my idea:
In this mixed universe there are several kinds of metahumans. The X, M, N, and, O-metas.
The N-metas are near-human or mixed blood people like Atlanteans, Inhumans, Amazons, and all people with a mix of blood from aliens and/or magical beings/people.
The O-metas are naturalized Outsiders like Superman, Martian Manhunter, and other extraterrestrial or extradimensional aliens who now call Earth home.
The M-metas are DC style metahumans and Marvel's Mutates like Spiderman, Flash, the Fantastic Four, and all the other people who got their powers triggered by some exotic accident or exposure.
Lastly there is the X-metas who have the X-gene like all of Marvel's Mutants.
The difference between M-metas and X-metas are that M-metas have the M-gene and need some type of trigger event involving exotic energies/elements/etc. to manifest their powers, while X-metas have the X-gene and their powers suddenly and spontaneously manifest at birth or during puberty. It is also common that X-metas manifest their powers during periods of mundane stress - like car accidents, assaults, or other non-exotic stressors, which means that the trigger event still might end up being quite violent.
In this world Xavier would still run his school, but for all types of young metas who need to learn to control their powers. The majority of the students are X-metas due to how their powers works, but there's a mix of other types as well.
The X-men would work as a rapid response or intervention team that both protect the public from rampaging metas, and metas from attacks by non-metas, but the group specializes in finding and helping metas with newly manifested powers that might be out of control. Basically, self-policing of metas by metas for both practical and political reasons - which might discourage things like the meta registration acts.
Since the metas are more diverse in this world mutant supremacy never got off the ground like in Marvel, and Magneto and his followers are more of an antihero and vigilante organization who focuses on making sure metas aren't exploited as living weapons or experimented on. They often raid both secret government bases and installations made by organizations like Hydra to free metas and destroy unethical research on/about them (which has made many governments classify them as terrorists). Magneto obviously hates Hydra, and might be a good ally for Alex when it comes to rooting them out.
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Wow, this got long. I'll stop here and just say you captured my imagination and that I'm looking forwards to next chapter.
It could be difficult to come up with a good in-story reason for why they haven't really come up yet though. The existence of mutants isn't a small and inconsequential thing, especially when you're trying to assemble a force to defend Earth from invaders like Lex is.
You could try to pretend that Mutants are still secret and then have them reveal themselves to the public in defense of the Earth against the Chitauri, but that still doesn't explain how Lex hasn't so much as acknowledged their existence for in-story years.
Nah, it's not that complicated if the author wants to include them.
Just make a minor edit to an earlier chapter where Alex notes that: "The number of mutants are far fewer than in Marvel canon and most of them have yet to awaken their powers - if they ever will," and have him mention that some mutant with a very visible mutation in canon still haven't had their power/mutation kick in despite being an adult in this universe.
Then add something like: "The individuals are recognizable, but their personal histories don't conform to any specific canon I know about," and that this is a good reason to just keep an eye on them and see how things develop, since he doesn't have a good cheat sheet for them. Add that Xavier is doing a good work with his school and fledging X-men, but to not contact him until the X-gene metas are ready to reveal themselves, or after the Chitauri invasion.
Magneto is even more elusive, but Alex would note that he is an anti-hero in this universe and less of an extremist. The orders regarding him would still be something like like: 'observe, gather more data, and then possibly invite him when it gets time to finally take down Hydra for good.'
An edit like that would be pretty easy - especially when the conclusion basically is: 'Yes they are there, now lets keep an eye on them but don't do anything until after the invasion'.
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- First/And/Last
Wonder if lex sister Lena luthor will make an appearance at some point. Maybe have her temporarily take over the company at some point after hydra frames lex for some crimes to get him out of the way temporarily.
@Ruijard1 is another's butterfly effect of Tony never getting sick with palladium poisoning that Rhodey never ended up confronting Tony about his behavior and ended taking with him the Mark 2 Armor? Meaning that there is a high possibility that Rhodey won't end up becoming War Machine/Iron Patriot in this Universe.
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For The Chancellor!
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- Somwhere not here
So is Lexy working on his Warsuit yet?
Chapter 20
Nick Fury, Director of SHIELD and one of the most powerful men in the world, stared worriedly through the glass widow as one of his best agents, Phill Coulson, received treatment for the injuries that he received in his latest project.
It was a miracle that he escaped with such minor injuries during the battle of literal gods in New Mexico.
And wasn't that a surprise? To think that what was considered mere myths even by his standards was proven to be real and have the potential to cause serious damage to the human race.
The real kicker was that his agents actually failed to obtain anything meaningful from the wreck of the town where Thor, the Norse God of Thunder, had battled some kind of a robotic entity that he called 'The Destroyer'
Now, the reason that this fact pissed off Fury was not that he could not obtain anything useful, but rather, he knew who was responsible for stealing the remains of the alien machine.
The genius that is currently being hailed as the savior of the human race, Alexander Luthor.
This man had been a pain in the ass for Fury since his recovery from an assassination attempt many years ago. Once after the other, he kept on releasing products that caused such a drastic shift on the entire planet that even The World Security Council was left reeling in his wake. And to add insult to injury, one of the most senior members of the Council, Secretary Pierce, actually died in a car crash, which is just as ridiculous as it sounds since his car was specifically modified with a bunch of safety features that made such a scenario impossible to occur.
But his incident was just one of many that were causing Fury a serious migraine.
It was not just Pierce. Fury was losing agents en mass on a daily basis to inane things such as traffic accidents, home accidents, and one of the most ridiculous cases of drunk driving he has ever heard. By this point, he knew that someone was targeting SHIELD and had an idea of who was responsible, but he could not understand what SHIELD had done to provoke such a response from him.
That was why he was banking on recruiting Erik Selvig to restart project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. which had been on ice for a long time. It was only luck that Coulson had found out about Erik and his associate, Jane Foster's research into weather anomalies which indicated extraterrestrial activity.
He had wanted to equip his agents with weapons derived from the Tesseract to counter those who have unparalleled powers and the Ten Rings who were responsible for killing his agents on a daily basis in very creative ways.
Then, the incident with Thor happened where Coulson's entire team was killed and he was the sole survivor, cementing Fury's desire to restart the experiments on the Tesseract.
Once the Doctors gave the all-clear, he walked into the room where Coulson looked at Fury with his usual smile.
"Hey Boss"
"Agent Coulson, you are one lucky motherf*cker"
"I know sir. But enough about me, what did the Council say?"
"…..They still refuse to allow me to send one of our agents to infiltrate LexCorp. They say that Luthor is a major asset of humanity and they do not want to antagonize him without reason. Personally, I think that all of them have been bought out by Luthor in some way or form, especially when you consider that Stark is just as much an asset to humanity as Luthor yet the Council has no issues sending agents to infiltrate Stark Industries"
"What about the sleeping beauty And the rest of the enhanced?"
"The Sleeping Beauty is still asleep, we have only achieved partial success in thawing him out. As for the Enhanced, we have reports that the agents that were supposed to keep an eye on the Twins are dead, same as the ones that were supposed to keep an eye on an actor in India, A reclusive couple in Australia, a man that was involved in the Manhattan project that somehow did not age and is now living in Chicago, the last descendent of the legendary traitor of Camalot and the Witch who works in the Natural History Museum, and many other high priority targets"
"….Sir, we cannot let this slide. Let me organize an attack on the Ten Rings-"
"No. While it is frustrating, sending an army after the Ten Rings would force its leader out onto the field. That is not an outcome that we are ready for yet. We must wait until Phase II produces results. Then, we can engage the enemy"
"…Yes Sir"
Fury simply nodded at his best agent and walked out of the room, more determined than ever to safeguard humanity from any and all things that he considered a threat.
It was a miracle that he escaped with such minor injuries during the battle of literal gods in New Mexico.
And wasn't that a surprise? To think that what was considered mere myths even by his standards was proven to be real and have the potential to cause serious damage to the human race.
The real kicker was that his agents actually failed to obtain anything meaningful from the wreck of the town where Thor, the Norse God of Thunder, had battled some kind of a robotic entity that he called 'The Destroyer'
Now, the reason that this fact pissed off Fury was not that he could not obtain anything useful, but rather, he knew who was responsible for stealing the remains of the alien machine.
The genius that is currently being hailed as the savior of the human race, Alexander Luthor.
This man had been a pain in the ass for Fury since his recovery from an assassination attempt many years ago. Once after the other, he kept on releasing products that caused such a drastic shift on the entire planet that even The World Security Council was left reeling in his wake. And to add insult to injury, one of the most senior members of the Council, Secretary Pierce, actually died in a car crash, which is just as ridiculous as it sounds since his car was specifically modified with a bunch of safety features that made such a scenario impossible to occur.
But his incident was just one of many that were causing Fury a serious migraine.
It was not just Pierce. Fury was losing agents en mass on a daily basis to inane things such as traffic accidents, home accidents, and one of the most ridiculous cases of drunk driving he has ever heard. By this point, he knew that someone was targeting SHIELD and had an idea of who was responsible, but he could not understand what SHIELD had done to provoke such a response from him.
That was why he was banking on recruiting Erik Selvig to restart project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. which had been on ice for a long time. It was only luck that Coulson had found out about Erik and his associate, Jane Foster's research into weather anomalies which indicated extraterrestrial activity.
He had wanted to equip his agents with weapons derived from the Tesseract to counter those who have unparalleled powers and the Ten Rings who were responsible for killing his agents on a daily basis in very creative ways.
Then, the incident with Thor happened where Coulson's entire team was killed and he was the sole survivor, cementing Fury's desire to restart the experiments on the Tesseract.
Once the Doctors gave the all-clear, he walked into the room where Coulson looked at Fury with his usual smile.
"Hey Boss"
"Agent Coulson, you are one lucky motherf*cker"
"I know sir. But enough about me, what did the Council say?"
"…..They still refuse to allow me to send one of our agents to infiltrate LexCorp. They say that Luthor is a major asset of humanity and they do not want to antagonize him without reason. Personally, I think that all of them have been bought out by Luthor in some way or form, especially when you consider that Stark is just as much an asset to humanity as Luthor yet the Council has no issues sending agents to infiltrate Stark Industries"
"What about the sleeping beauty And the rest of the enhanced?"
"The Sleeping Beauty is still asleep, we have only achieved partial success in thawing him out. As for the Enhanced, we have reports that the agents that were supposed to keep an eye on the Twins are dead, same as the ones that were supposed to keep an eye on an actor in India, A reclusive couple in Australia, a man that was involved in the Manhattan project that somehow did not age and is now living in Chicago, the last descendent of the legendary traitor of Camalot and the Witch who works in the Natural History Museum, and many other high priority targets"
"….Sir, we cannot let this slide. Let me organize an attack on the Ten Rings-"
"No. While it is frustrating, sending an army after the Ten Rings would force its leader out onto the field. That is not an outcome that we are ready for yet. We must wait until Phase II produces results. Then, we can engage the enemy"
"…Yes Sir"
Fury simply nodded at his best agent and walked out of the room, more determined than ever to safeguard humanity from any and all things that he considered a threat.
this defiantly sounds like Fury. Its going to make him even more paranoid when it finally comes out the reason all those people were killed was because they were all hydra, hilarious they didnt go out in epic firefights or showdowns, just rigged accidents.
There seems to be a full on shadow war going on and only oneside seems to be actually competant at it. leaving the apparantly best spy agency in the cold flaiing about trying to work out what is going on.
There seems to be a full on shadow war going on and only oneside seems to be actually competant at it. leaving the apparantly best spy agency in the cold flaiing about trying to work out what is going on.
The Eternals are mentioned by Nick Fury and they were being monitored.
I am surprised Nick Fury didn't make a Robb Stark reference considering a certain Superman-esque Eternal among the group.
I am surprised Nick Fury didn't make a Robb Stark reference considering a certain Superman-esque Eternal among the group.
Well, Ikaris has always been very elusive just as much as the real Superman that is still in hiding at this point. The same goes for the rest of the Eternals such as Ajak, Sprite, Makkari who is living in their ship, Druig who is chilling somewhere in the Amazon with his mind-controlled population of humans.
At this point Shield is just a big joke with all the shit going within it. The fact that it has many spies in it is enough to send red flags never mind the fact that they are Hydra Spies.
Yup, Luthor basically owns the Ten Rings alongside Wenwu now that he has saved his wife from death and established a partnership with the immortal man.
True and I can imagine how Ikaris and Superman interact when they eventually meet at some point.
Also I have a feeling SI Lex Luthor ain't liking the idea of a Celestial being born within Earth's core and the job of the Eternals is to awaken and ensure the process will be successful.
Superman is going to wipe the floor with Ikaris when they meet. As for the Celestial, you will find out in the future.
Awesome. I look forward to it.
Also I was expecting Nick Fury to call in Talos and ask him for a favor to do some spying for him.
Or even impersonate as him while Fury do the personal investigation from the shadows.
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Lets not forget it's Shield/Hydra playing around with the Tesseract that sends a message to the other races in the galaxy that Earth is ready for them and bring it on. Fury is just blind instead questioning why only random or in this case hydra agents have been targeted he thinks it's a attack on Shield granted it might be given with how big of a roadblock they would be to Luthor's plan/ideas to prepare the planet for whats coming
Shield if they had any idea about the alien tech and powers Luthor had they would be trying to put a leash around his neck and try pull the same thing they did to Stark where he some how is the Avengers and Shield backer
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This is me but I dislike Gal Gadot Wonder Woman I hate how skinny she is and Gal is 5'10 but I think Wonder Woman should be much taller than that. This is a problem I have with alot of Female super Heroes who actually have to get physical with their opponents and while I know why they do it but like come on
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ruining the weather.
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say, I know he is killing politicians left and right but shouldnt the 30% he bought from Stark be cause for antitrust action?
It seemed it was the only posible competition he had and he bought it
It seemed it was the only posible competition he had and he bought it