[X] The Papers, Please Act (Glory to the Sufficient Union)
- [X] Accounts less than 1 month old will be further scrutinized before admittance is allowed.
(damn it was going to create thirty four sock puppet accounts on SV in order to usurp control of the region.)
Okay, here's what I'll do. I'm going to say that this proposal is moving to quorum. Tomorrow, with some of the adaptations and suggestions, I'll present it to everyone more clearly. That means you should stop voting on it, because the proposal itself is accepted, it's just a matter of clearing up some of the language.
That's correct, but Nonsequtur, as the founder, can kick them, and when we open up the region we'll probably create Sufficient Overwatch as an organization to oversee new citizens.
Okay, whoever is the The Holy Empire of The Most High Luciferian Archona, tell me right now, because first of all Archona isn't a word but that's okay, but the proper declination of "Ave, Satanas" is "Ave, Satana" and I bleed from my eyes whenever I read it.
Alright, this is going to be rather short because I'm knee-deep in classes but I don't want to particularly let this die off in the meantime. The discussion session was reasonably productive, mostly around discussion for establishing rules for those entering. So this session, I would like to say, will be mostly about how we're going to open ourselves up and present ourselves to the wider nationstates world.
Our embassies with The Newsstand, The Embassy, The Bar on the corner of every Region, and The Gypsy Lands, are all open. If you want to say hello, go over to their RMBs and post.
Here is everyone in the region who is at or under 25 endorsements:
Our regional average is now 26.15 endorsements per nation, which is extremely high and 3 average endorsements higher than Europeia, making our average rather happy and comfortable without much fear of being overthrown. Europeia is also significantly larger than us (like, uh, 1000 nations larger) which makes getting their average up much higher than us. It's a lesson that bigger is not always better in Nationstates and it pays to have an engaged and active membership.
Now then, let's move to voting.
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The only topic of voting this time that gained quorum was the Papers Please Act by @Cornuthaum, which wormed its way through and had some suggested amendments. I'm going to establish some rules regarding amendments of user motions going forward:
1. An amendment to a user motion needs the agreement of the original proposer to go forward.
2. It does not need to go back to quorum, unless the amendment is judged so significant that it changes the nature of the user motion (this will be determined by the WA delegate).
3. As a result, it is recommended that you cooperate with others you think might have good ideas to make your user motion the best it could be.
4. This does not affect write-ins to normal, WA delegate proposed votes.
Now then, let's speak about the Paper's Please Act.
The basic proposal that I will put forward is this:
That all users who join Sufficient Union must have an SV Account
That all users who join Sufficient Union must join the World Assembly
That all users who join Sufficient Union must identify themselves on the RMB
If their account is was created after the passing of this motion, they must post in this thread as well. Think of it as "two-step verification".
However, once they have gone through these steps, they are full voting citizens and privileged to both the pile of endorsements we give each other and access to all of the Union's voting. Why do we not want to create residents who are not citizens? Because at the core, putting aside border security, the point is to have some level of political participation for everyone. We don't want an information gap between random people from NS who join the region and don't participate and those who are full participants. This way we preserve a strong legitimate and focused ideal of direct democracy without sitting on a disengaged underclass of people who don't really care.
With that in mind. Two issues crop up. The first is actually approving the motion.
Should we approve the Papers please motion that establishes rules for membership in Sufficient Union?
[] Approve the papers please motion.
[] Do not approve the papers please motion.
Should we establish a border protection group, Sufficient Overwatch, with border control and citizenship-approval privileges?
[] Yes, and they should be democratically elected.
[] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
[] No, we don't need a border control.
Some other minor issues come to mind.
Should we have a Discord link on our World Factbook entry (ie our page on Nationstates) so that people who are interested can come and chat there and get introduced to the region?
[] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
[] Do not link the discord on NS.
Should we establish a specific "theme" for our region, in the sense of an aesthetic (for example, The Roman Empire has a Roman aesthetic, Lazarus is Communist Wolves, Balder and Osiris are undead Monarchies, Europe is modeled on the European Union)
[] Yes, let's have a theme! Write in to your heart's content.
[] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
Remember also that the floor remains open for user motions that are unrelated to this, for the next session.
[x] Approve the papers please motion.
[x] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
-I like our theme.
[x] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
-Just to cut down on the raw number of votes.
[x] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles.
-If we've established embassies, we might as well.
[X] Do not approve the papers please motion.
[X] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
[X] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
[X] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
[X] Approve the papers please motion.
glory to the union
[X] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
[x] Yes, let's have a theme! Rock-based democracy in ancient greek style.
[X] Approve the papers please motion.
[X] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
[X] Do not link the Discord on NS
[X] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
[X] Approve the papers please motion.
[X] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
[X] Do not link the Discord on NS
[X] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
[X] Approve the papers please motion.
The important part here is to maintain the integrity of SU against potential raiders.
[X] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
Safety first.
[X] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
So long as they are restricted to the general/rr channel.
[X] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
Maybe later. Right now we need to work on E N D O R S E M E N T S
However
I think we need to address the idea of people who want to join SU, but don't want to be in the endorsement-sin manifold.
Therefore
I propose that we use Sufficient Storage as not only a holding zone for alts, but also for any citizens who want to join the SU but have no interest in the greater politics or in keeping up with the endorsements, along with non-SV or suspicious users. This could include 'alts' from our linked/embassied regions, to further a spirit of co-operation, while not harming our political power via endorsements and average endorsements.
Necessarily
We cannot keep the name 'Sufficient Storage', as that could be construed as insulting.
Thus
I propose a user motion to submit the
[X] Sufficient Granary Act
Rename the region known as Sufficient Storage to Sufficient Granary, hereto referred as SG
[X] Yes, and they should be democratically elected.
[X] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
This page leads directly to a password, and I would like to fully set up dispatches and such for rules before linking it. However, if they join on discord we can just explain it verbally.
[x] Approve the papers please motion.
[x] Yes, and they should be appointed by the WA delegate, and confirmed by the Founder (who has executive control).
[x] Open up our discord link (all those who come in will not be assigned roles at first, and if they are diplomats or visitors will be given the proper roles)
[x] Being SV is enough of a theme for me.
