Suffer Not the Witch (Warhammer 40k Psyker Quest)

[x] [Aeldari] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Nadia] Free the Prisoner.
[x] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Bore] Free the Prisoner
 
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1) A Demonculaba which is a woman shackled naked within iron cages and force-fed nutrients which caused her body to widen and bloat to grotesque proportions. Then chaos space marines aspirant are unbirthed inside her to be transformed into astartes. Those aspirants are reborn skinless.

I'm not gonna lie I find it kind of hard to engage with stuff like this as evidence one way or the other because I am like 90% sure this is some random BL writer's fetish splashed all over the page and I am too busy shuddering violently to properly weigh it up on the ol' Scale of Atrocities.
 
Considering that the people who MADE there gene seed should know this is one of the more moronic things from canon. The BR can't hide something when they didn't exist yet. If the inquisition didn't keep themselves in the loop as space marine chapters were being made I'll eat a fucking daemon prince.

No if they capture a SM they should AT LEAST know the Primarch the gene seed is based off of.
The Inquisition post-dates the First and Second Foundings, plenty of Chapters have murky origins at best, Imperial communications and book-keeping are both absolutely atrocious, and gene-seed is such a poorly-understood biological wonder that Chapter lineages basically all rely on direct witness testimony or pure guesswork.

The Silver Skulls are assumed to be Ultramarines successors because they showed up somewhere within the vicinity of Sub-Sector Ultramar. The Storm Giants are believed to probably be Salamanders successors because They Big. The Carcharodons have two highly specific mutations in their gene-seed, so the Inquisition are confident that they're descended from one of two potential Primarchs. The top guesses for the Blood Ravens' origins by Imperial speculators are Raven Guard (because they have "Raven" in the name), Blood Angels (because they have "Blood" in the name), Dark Angels (because who knows what those creeps get up to), and Ultramarines (because you can't throw a rock without hitting Guilliman's gene-seed). It's not scientific in the least.

Legit Mechanicum gene-seed tracing seen here:
 
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[x] [Aeldari] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Nadia] Free the Prisoner.
[x] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Bore] Terminate the Prisoner
 
[x] [Nadia] Free the Prisoner.
[x] [Bore] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Aeldari] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
 
Interesting. Checking the vote it looks like "free everyone" is winning by a fairly comfortable margin.

Some of them might be down to the fact that this is a task-based vote rather than a plan one, but even so, we're look at about 3:1 ratio in favour of freeing any given prisoner, which suggests that even if it was plan based the option to free everyone would be a strong contender.

Won't close the vote just yet, I only generally do that when I'm in a position to start writing the next update, but good to see that we're probably just assembling the largest possible team of misfits and assholes to be found in this sector of the galaxy.
 
Ciro, for example, might take a disliking to us for any imaginable reason and feel like ganking us; why do we imagine that any of the others would care enough to 'check' that and prevent it from happening?

They'd at least want a reason why the Angel of Death is killing one of their ramshackle crew. Because if we did something bad for them, they want to join in on killing us, but if it's Ciro's own random reasons - they need to unite and gank him before he decides to kill one of them next.
 
I'm not gonna lie I find it kind of hard to engage with stuff like this as evidence one way or the other because I am like 90% sure this is some random BL writer's fetish splashed all over the page and I am too busy shuddering violently to properly weigh it up on the ol' Scale of Atrocities.
you think that is horrible , when I first ran into the topic on 1d4chan I accidently clicked on a link to the Demonculaba's image , it took me literal years to scrub the image from my mind , yes its that bad
 
I'm not gonna lie I find it kind of hard to engage with stuff like this as evidence one way or the other because I am like 90% sure this is some random BL writer's fetish splashed all over the page and I am too busy shuddering violently to properly weigh it up on the ol' Scale of Atrocities.

I don't think that's the fetish, if there is one, though. There is another step in the process that is even more described than the daemonculaba themself, even if I'm not going to say anything about that.

However, the point of all of that was to introduce the concept that even for chaos worshippers being complete monsters wasn't a good idea. While the leader figure of the final attack against the daemonculaba was a loyalist ultramarine, the forces he guided were mostly made out of mutants who worshipped the emperor, even if they never had any direct contact with the Imperium before. They basically shrugged off their corruption because they hated chaos too much.
 
Considering that the people who MADE there gene seed should know this is one of the more moronic things from canon. The BR can't hide something when they didn't exist yet. If the inquisition didn't keep themselves in the loop as space marine chapters were being made I'll eat a fucking daemon prince.

No if they capture a SM they should AT LEAST know the Primarch the gene seed is based off of.

Needs of the setting means there's plenty of foundings where they essentially just stopped caring or lost the data or 'lost' it. Minotaurs imply they might also be able to hybridize gene seed I suppose. For Blood Ravens I always assumed there's an understanding that there's a decent chance they come from traitors so the admech doesn't look into it and risk robbing the imperium of another chapter.

Its one of those things that is a fact of the setting so people can go wild.

Also, I don't beliiiieve there's any central inquisition database. I am sure that if they sought it out they could but that'd probably take time and resources given how admech guards that.
 
They'd at least want a reason why the Angel of Death is killing one of their ramshackle crew. Because if we did something bad for them, they want to join in on killing us, but if it's Ciro's own random reasons - they need to unite and gank him before he decides to kill one of them next.

If an Angel of Death decides to kill us, I don't think the others are necessarily likely to have time, between the point they realise he intends to do so and the moment he begins putting his plan into action, to quiz him back and forth and then hold a vote on it.
 
If an Angel of Death decides to kill us, I don't think the others are necessarily likely to have time, between the point they realise he intends to do so and the moment he begins putting his plan into action, to quiz him back and forth and then hold a vote on it.

Sure, they might not do so in time to save us, but they will absolutely want an explanation afterwards. And if Ciro doesn't have a good one, they wll try to kill him to save themselves. Or flee, I guess.
 
[x] [Nadia] Free the Prisoner.
[x] [Bore] Free the Prisoner
[X] [Aeldari] Free the Prisoner
[x] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
Because why not?
 
The Imperium probably did know what was up with the Blood Ravens... before the rise of the Ecclesiarchy, before the Beheading and the War of the Beast, before the Nova Terra Interregnum, before Gorge Vandire and the Age of Apostasy, before the lost Children's Crusade, and so on, and so on, for ten millennia and onto the return of Guiliman and the opening of the Great Rift. In truth this is more like the Sixth Imperium of Mankind, as part of an interrelated series of political bodies and cultural aspects that think they are an undivided seamless whole, when in truth they really aren't. The Imperium Eterna is centuries of propaganda and doctrine, papering over the widening jagged holes in the broken machinery of state as the 41st Millennia turns and the Imperium steadily loses its hard power over much of itself as it is stretched over dozens and dozens of Sector-wide battlefronts.
 
Looks like everyone goes free.
I'm not sure the people who actually want to free everyone would have a majority by themselves, but everyone wants to free at least some people, so all those "free all" votes easily win.
If I sort the tally by "none", we can see that there are 32 votes to free everyone, out of 63 votes total. So more than half of everyone voting is in favor of Plan A-Team.

Adhoc vote count started by Derpmind on Aug 14, 2021 at 10:13 AM, finished with 107 posts and 63 votes.

  • [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Abandon the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Abandon the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Nadia] Terminate the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Free the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Abandon the Prisoner
    [X] [Ciro] Abandon the Prisoner
 
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Well, I don't think most of us voted to free Ciro for times and zero for the other three.

But just going through the thread, I do believe that "free everyone" is the single most popular plan. It may be an absolute majority or not, but for sure it's the biggest consensus.
 
Yeah, like there's like twice as many people in favour of freeing everybody as there are in favour of killing anybody in particular.
 
Yeah, it's probably for the best to cooperate until everyone's out. If anyone's so unstable as to compulsively backstab, the group should be able to shut them down.
 
Alright, Vote Called, decision is made to release everyone on the theory that five heads are better than one, even if some of them are filled with only the finest of Good Decisions.
 
Let's see things that way

option 1) they don't try to betray us and we have a quirky squad/found family
option 2) they all try to betray us and we have great comedy
 
I just don't want to kill anybody because, well, who are we to judge? We don't really know anything about these people aside of what the reports say, and well, fuck the inquisition.

After all, our own report would hace described us as a dangerous agent of a chaos cult.
 
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