Spider-Liv (Olivia Octavius AU Quest)

Other characters I'm interested in the Sketch treatment of (or is this the Olivia verse?)
Iron Fist (Dan Rand? Colleen Wing?)
Daredevil (it is so very weird for a capable lawyer to do punching as a solution)
TMNT (same canister as did Murdock)
The fantastic four (so many issues here)
Really, even just the broader (street level) Marvel New York is teeming with cognitive dissonance.
 
Other characters I'm interested in the Sketch treatment of (or is this the Olivia verse?)
Iron Fist (Dan Rand? Colleen Wing?)
Daredevil (it is so very weird for a capable lawyer to do punching as a solution)
TMNT (same canister as did Murdock)
The fantastic four (so many issues here)
Really, even just the broader (street level) Marvel New York is teeming with cognitive dissonance.
It'll be interesting when and if sketch does tackle those characters, to see how they're reimagined/interpreted. I mean, we have seen some of them spun that way before -- villain!Reed certainly isn't a reach, even exempting Maker, and a dark or villainous Murdock certainly could work (probably better than the Murdock of Spider-Gwen's world, tbh) but sketch's takes are always fascinating to see (or, in the case of Donald Blake, hilarious).

I know I'll probably be a sucker for whatever Victor von Doom or Magneto turn out to be (sue me, I have a type. and apparently that type is "sometime villains who tend towards being Large Hams, with capes and headgear") but at the street level I'm intrigued by how sketch would reimagine/interpret Jessica Jones and Frank Castle. I will confess to being partial to their Netflix adaptations, especially Castle (good Christ he can be unlikable in the comics) but I have complete faith in sketch's ability to do good work with them.
 
I'm trying to think what you can even do with Deadpool in a setting that takes itself even halfway seriously and drawing a blank. Besides, most subversions and deconstructions of his character were done already... in his own comic, sometimes several times over by different writers.

So yeah, I'm probably not gonna see him in this story, sadly.
 
Or you can simply have him be his normal self while pointing out how everything else is different. :V

Lol, that'd be neat. I already can hear him complaining that a Quest is an inappropriate format to present him. Or this quest in particular.

"Think of the children! No, seriously, think about squishy, easily impressed children... like our main character, a single teenage mother!"

... I think Olivia will hate him.
 
Doctor Doom but looking to get back at his asshole ex-boyfriend Reed Richards after he threw him under the bus for a major accident which left him scared, physically and emotionally, while Reed gets off scot-free.
 
Doctor Doom but looking to get back at his asshole ex-boyfriend Reed Richards after he threw him under the bus for a major accident which left him scared, physically and emotionally, while Reed gets off scot-free.
Eh, Dr Doom is still basically a tinpot dictator from an academic elite origin.
It probably looks a lot like two assholes getting one up on each other with random collateral damage
 
Eh, Dr Doom is still basically a tinpot dictator from an academic elite origin.
It probably looks a lot like two assholes getting one up on each other with random collateral damage

If you really wanna, you can do something believable with Doom's character for the price of basically making him not Doom anymore.

Like instead of a totalitarian dictator he's a rich prettyboy prince in some European constitutional monarchy who after his disfigurement and subsequent funk over doctors telling him that no, they can't fix this, decided to donate a lot of money to the field of reconstructive plastic surgery for those people who can be helped ( and in-not-so secret hopes that with his financing the medical field will advance enough to be able to help him )

Here. Not a saint, but not a raging genocidal asshole either.

About Fantastic Four...
I imagine it'd be like a sitcom romance rivalry where Doom is trying to win over Susan's heart despite her being married to Richard for several years now. Only with more explosions.

For bonus points, make Susan unhappy with marriage and Doom actually pretty decent in his efforts and, I dunno, getting along well with Ben and hanging out with him. Johny is like constantly exasperated that his sister is the center of more attention than he ever had at any one moment in his life.

Make the whole thing a bizarre case of first world problems, with stupid millionaires burning shit and then having to pay for it.
Like, the majority of money Doom and Rich earn for their grants goes to New York City to fix the mess they leave after them.
 
If you really wanna, you can do something believable with Doom's character for the price of basically making him not Doom anymore.

Like instead of a totalitarian dictator he's a rich prettyboy prince in some European constitutional monarchy who after his disfigurement and subsequent funk over doctors telling him that no, they can't fix this, decided to donate a lot of money to the field of reconstructive plastic surgery for those people who can be helped ( and in-not-so secret hopes that with his financing the medical field will advance enough to be able to help him )

Here. Not a saint, but not a raging genocidal asshole either.

About Fantastic Four...
I imagine it'd be like a sitcom romance rivalry where Doom is trying to win over Susan's heart despite her being married to Richard for several years now. Only with more explosions.

For bonus points, make Susan unhappy with marriage and Doom actually pretty decent in his efforts and, I dunno, getting along well with Ben and hanging out with him. Johny is like constantly exasperated that his sister is the center of more attention than he ever had at any one moment in his life.

Make the whole thing a bizarre case of first world problems, with stupid millionaires burning shit and then having to pay for it.
Like, the majority of money Doom and Rich earn for their grants goes to New York City to fix the mess they leave after them.
I like it, let's call this new sitcom: "Learning to love Doom."

:V
 
If you really wanna, you can do something believable with Doom's character for the price of basically making him not Doom anymore.

Like instead of a totalitarian dictator he's a rich prettyboy prince in some European constitutional monarchy who after his disfigurement and subsequent funk over doctors telling him that no, they can't fix this, decided to donate a lot of money to the field of reconstructive plastic surgery for those people who can be helped ( and in-not-so secret hopes that with his financing the medical field will advance enough to be able to help him )

Here. Not a saint, but not a raging genocidal asshole either.

About Fantastic Four...
I imagine it'd be like a sitcom romance rivalry where Doom is trying to win over Susan's heart despite her being married to Richard for several years now. Only with more explosions.

For bonus points, make Susan unhappy with marriage and Doom actually pretty decent in his efforts and, I dunno, getting along well with Ben and hanging out with him. Johny is like constantly exasperated that his sister is the center of more attention than he ever had at any one moment in his life.

Make the whole thing a bizarre case of first world problems, with stupid millionaires burning shit and then having to pay for it.
Like, the majority of money Doom and Rich earn for their grants goes to New York City to fix the mess they leave after them.
All I can see now is Richards as an Elon Musk type that isn't nearly as brilliant an inventor or engineer as he claims (and spends a lot of money to pretend) he is, and Sue as a long-suffering partner beginning to figure out just how much of a dick Reed is.

I like it. Fund it.
 
Tony Stark already kind of does that. At least the first bit.
Enh, it's not like there aren't plenty of rich dickheads IRL who pretend to be MCU Stark, trying to project the whole "genius billionaire playboy philanthropist" image. Elon Musk just can't help but make himself appear as more of a dick than he really needs to (see his most recent headlines in news media) so he's in the forefront of my brain.

Besides, I have a longstanding, deep-seated dislike of Reed Richards. I'm not gonna pretend like that doesn't colour my perspective.
 
Rich dumbasses are easy to fight and boring. Especially if you have tech sense, you can probably just bankrupt them by walking into their corporate headquarters and doing some thinking. Now they're a poor dumbass.

Besides, Reed Richard's dad wasn't the sort of rich you need to get a rich failson in the Musk mould. They were probably fairly comfortable but nowhere near what you're suggesting.
 
Besides, I have a longstanding, deep-seated dislike of Reed Richards.

I mean, Reed Richards is one of the most egregiously evil 'heroes' in the Marvel universe, up there with Pym and Xavier. (Stark as well to a somewhat lesser extent. Not because he isn't a ludicrously terrible person, but just because Pym and the like set the bar for monstrousness that high)
 

I'm not remotely a comics, expert, I don't follow them and what I do know is largely from what I've picked up from podcasts (Xplain the Xmen is a delight.)

Reed Richards is a Science Hero, casually inventing stuff hundreds of years ahead of modern technology, all of which is just useless vanity projects or ends up creating villains. (Kind of can't blame Richards for this. Editorial fiat banned him from ever creating anything that would change the Status Quo)

He's sexist, abuses his wife, constantly hides vital information from the people around him, conducts procedures on people without their consent or knowledge. Brainwashes people, turns Ben Grimm back into the Thing against his will when he was finally cured, made a secret torture dimension to shove heroes into when they didn't align with him on the Superpower registration act (Which remains an act that still makes no coherent legal sense), made a enslaved clone of Thor...

All of this is just what the *normal* version of him did, not anything to do with the evil supervillain version of him from another dimension.
 
I'm not remotely a comics, expert, I don't follow them and what I do know is largely from what I've picked up from podcasts (Xplain the Xmen is a delight.)

Reed Richards is a Science Hero, casually inventing stuff hundreds of years ahead of modern technology, all of which is just useless vanity projects or ends up creating villains. (Kind of can't blame Richards for this. Editorial fiat banned him from ever creating anything that would change the Status Quo)

He's sexist, abuses his wife, constantly hides vital information from the people around him, conducts procedures on people without their consent or knowledge. Brainwashes people, turns Ben Grimm back into the Thing against his will when he was finally cured, made a secret torture dimension to shove heroes into when they didn't align with him on the Superpower registration act (Which remains an act that still makes no coherent legal sense), made a enslaved clone of Thor...

All of this is just what the *normal* version of him did, not anything to do with the evil supervillain version of him from another dimension.
There's a thing that came up, one time, where a journal of Reed's was discovered, and in it are statements that heavily imply Reed knew the radiation accident would happen, and fundamentally alter their lives, and actively sought it out, without telling his crew/family this could or would happen to them.

Later on, it's revealed that the journal entries are doctored to make Reed look guilty (and he doesn't do himself any favours when initially confronted with it) but the doctored journal entries aren't what sells it to me. What sells it to me is that his crew/family, the people who know him best in the entire world, have absolutely no problem believing this to be true; they find evidence that suggests Reed did this to them on purpose, and instead of a moment's hesitation or doubt, they all are like, "yeah, that tracks." And just how shit of a person do you have to be to begin with, that your friends and family immediately buy in on that?
 
There's a thing that came up, one time, where a journal of Reed's was discovered, and in it are statements that heavily imply Reed knew the radiation accident would happen, and fundamentally alter their lives, and actively sought it out, without telling his crew/family this could or would happen to them.

Later on, it's revealed that the journal entries are doctored to make Reed look guilty (and he doesn't do himself any favours when initially confronted with it) but the doctored journal entries aren't what sells it to me. What sells it to me is that his crew/family, the people who know him best in the entire world, have absolutely no problem believing this to be true; they find evidence that suggests Reed did this to them on purpose, and instead of a moment's hesitation or doubt, they all are like, "yeah, that tracks." And just how shit of a person do you have to be to begin with, that your friends and family immediately buy in on that?

superhumans would be fucked up one way or another

to be a hero is to self sacrifice yourself for the sake of others,and we arent built to mentally stand the experience of being a living shield for everybody around us 24/7
heroes are exceptional individuals

how many times can you endure losing your job and returning home with several broken ribs before psicoligical damage or strange behaviors happen?

add to this the fact that many heroes are heroes by circumstance (something happened that forced them to embrace the mantle) while still having incredibly deep personality flaws

lets take peter parker for example,his depictions go from 15 to 21 years when he begins his work as heroe
and his life is beatdown after beatdown

no human psique is designed to cope healthy with such conditions

so future heroes are either mentally anormal from before becoming one,or over the course of their carrer they develop traumas

it doesnt surprise me heroes have several kind of outright mentally ill personalities and behaviors and most of them being weirdos one way or another
 
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