Something Completely Different (Worm Tinker SI, Original City)

"Alan." The man's voice coming from the other side of the portal made Mannequin flinch. Not surprising, it was a reminder of who he'd been when he had a family. Still, why interrupt? "We should figure out if Thunderstriker is salvageable before determining Fossil's fate. He gets to live, for now... if he lets Thunderstriker go."

My tendrils relaxed due to a subconscious command. As much as I wanted to hurt these bastards, it'd be hard enough saving the Mouse even while I was alive.
I like this bit here in particular. Most people don't include little bits that show Jack's Thinker power actively sabotaging their decision making. Even if he would have normally given over Thunderstriker, saying it was subconscious was a nice, subtle touch.
 
"A kill order had been authorized due to his actions as a member of The Hunt."

Huh. That's a kinda odd thing to say. Everyone automatically receives a kill order upon joining the Slaughterhouse Nine. So why would PRT HQ feel the need to mention he's already earned a kill order? Did Fossil/Co-Op not mention Thunderstriker admitting to being part of the Nine?
 
Huh. That's a kinda odd thing to say. Everyone automatically receives a kill order upon joining the Slaughterhouse Nine. So why would PRT HQ feel the need to mention he's already earned a kill order? Did Fossil/Co-Op not mention Thunderstriker admitting to being part of the Nine?
Because I couldn't remember whether pre-approved kill orders were canon or fanon. Cite?
 
Because I couldn't remember whether pre-approved kill orders were canon or fanon. Cite?

That's the irritating thing about Worm. There is just so much information spread so widely it's hard to find anything. There is this line from Queen 18.5:
A kill order. It was what they had in place for the Slaughterhouse Nine.
which suggests the Kill Order is for the Slaughterhouse Nine in general rather then specific members, and thus would apply to anyone who joined.

Other then that I just haven't found much info directly from Wildbow on the topic. That said if it is fanon I think I know how it became fanon; it's in Cenotaph.
 
That's the irritating thing about Worm. There is just so much information spread so widely it's hard to find anything. There is this line from Queen 18.5:
which suggests the Kill Order is for the Slaughterhouse Nine in general rather then specific members, and thus would apply to anyone who joined.

Other then that I just haven't found much info directly from Wildbow on the topic. That said if it is fanon I think I know how it became fanon; it's in Cenotaph.
It would make sense if kill orders came through on learning that capes were members, and sure, if you kill their fresh recruit, the paperwork justifying that kill order will probably come through before any court proceedings dick you over, but in this particular case, it would be good to know that this new guy already had his OWN kill order.
 
I was amused by the Horrible Four comment, but it occurs to me that Aperture is one hell of a force multiplier for the S9. Someone they'd probably be looking to keep around for the long haul.
 
"So... you're with The Hunt?"

He wagged his hand in the air, bobbing his head from side to side as he glanced... toward the trees. "Used to be. Recently joined up with the Nine.
So it wasn't his power that protected his neck... Bonesaw must've enhanced him further.
Bonesaw. On the one hand, you fighting her/Murder Rat I am really looking forward to.
The bandanna was on fire,
'on'.
the portal would've been Aperture,
Don't remember him/her.
the air tasting funny to the Mouse might have been Miasma...
Now her, I know. Mouse's either dead or about to become a Rat.
He opened his mouth, presumably to cuss me out, and I got a couple of fingers in between his teeth to keep his mouth open. His jaw muscles hadn't gotten anywhere near as much work as his limbs. More importantly, though, I'd given myself a clear line of fire. Suppressant shot into his mouth, foaming up at the back of his throat. Judging by what the echo was showing me, the nasal airway was getting blocked off too.
Nice. Taking advantage of an opponents weakness and going no-nonsense for the kill.
"Fossil!"

Through Co-Op's eyes, I saw the portal open, almost directly behind me.

Stepping out from the other side of the portal was a massive statue of white ceramic limbs and metallic claws. One of the aforementioned Horrible Four, a serial killer that targeted tinkers, Mannequin.

A clawed limb was brought up to swat me aside, and I spun in a manner that had me falling on my back. More importantly, though, it put Thunderstriker into position to take the hit for me. Mannequin stopped just short of hitting, though, instead yanking roughly at Thunderstriker to pull him from my grip. Mannequin's other arm came around, a bouquet of blades poised over my head.
Ok, so you're setting up a rivalry with Bonesaw and Mannequin.
"Alan." The man's voice coming from the other side of the portal made Mannequin flinch. Not surprising, it was a reminder of who he'd been when he had a family. Still, why interrupt? "We should figure out if Thunderstriker is salvageable before determining Fossil's fate. He gets to live, for now... if he lets Thunderstriker go."
'Salvageable', AKA meat for Bonesaw to play with.
Mannequin pulled Thunderstriker away, and I got a good medical look at the both of them. Mannequin's true self was in the torso of his armor, and Thunderstriker, while durable thanks to Bonesaw, was suffering the foam having expanded down his windpipe. It'd probably be in his lungs by the time they finished retreating. As Mannequin withdrew, one of the claws on the free hand tapped at the wrist of the arm holding his teammate.

Where a wristwatch might go.

I retorted with a one-fingered gesture of my own as the villains got to their side of the portal.
'You're living on borrowed time.' 'Fuck you.' Oh yeah, that's a rivalry.
Whelp, that was an intense chapter. 'bout time to boot up that Mouse brain-backup?
 
Fixed.
Don't remember him/her.
She's an OC, like Thunderstriker.
Whelp, that was an intense chapter. 'bout time to boot up that Mouse brain-backup?
The save point throne is a revival machine, not a cloning machine. Fossil needs the original hardware to load the copied software into. Otherwise that might lead people to think that he can be replaced with a clone that has all his memories, and his aversion to Star Trek teleporters like Oni Lee should make his position there clear.
 
That's... going to be a significant problem. And turns the backup into a de-facto memory wipe for Mouse.
Huh. What happens if he loads the Mouse into Murder Rat's body?


Also, typos:
Aside from a pair of teenagers recording with their cameras, one of which was wearing the South Family's colors
What? What is there, aside from them? Incomplete.
as the increasingly concentrated flames began to carrying the sonic-
"began to carry"
 
Huh. What happens if he loads the Mouse into Murder Rat's body?
If I had to guess, given Bonesaw's previous subjects, Pain Without End, with a side order of insanity.* Hence why I said getting the 'hardware' back would be supremely difficult: Fossil not only has to subdue the teleporting Murder Rat and disable whatever remote-kill switches Bonesaw stuck in it, but separate Mouse Protector's body from Ravager's and heal it. I'd almost think it would be easier to go the clone route. Unless Panacea's helping, that would simplify a few things...

*The bad kind.
 
I like this bit here in particular. Most people don't include little bits that show Jack's Thinker power actively sabotaging their decision making. Even if he would have normally given over Thunderstriker, saying it was subconscious was a nice, subtle touch.
Ugh. THAT WoG. The one that is contradicted by what we see in canon. Theo figured out that he has a thinker power AND that it doesn't work on normal while fighting him.
 
Ugh. THAT WoG. The one that is contradicted by what we see in canon. Theo figured out that he has a thinker power AND that it doesn't work on normal while fighting him.
Because the power wasn't perfect.

Jack's power is communication. As such, he gets information from shards, which gives him combat telepathy. HOWEVER, it broadcasts as well as recieves, so his allies all get the same power, tilted towards protecting Jack himself from danger. However, as seen (and what, when prompted, caused Wildbow to reveal this) with Imp suddenly getting a bad feeling when about to get Jack, his enemies also get a subtle version that intimidates them from acting on chancy plans, evening the playing field. After all, if Imp DID go for Jack, she would be hosed. So the subtle master aspect to his power actually benefited her.
 
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"Civilians should run if they don't want to die! The villain in biker leathers is with the Slaughterhouse Nine!"

In practice, the Slaughterhouse Nine were more like the Horrible Four, with a little under a half dozen groupies.

lol, I love this story. manages to take canon and completely change the feel of the whole setting by changing the narrator without any changes except for small butterflies from the OC that slowly add up.

"I've never killed a human before, Thunderstriker. If you and your team don't want to be the first nine, you're going to turn over the Mouse."

Hopefully the Mouse stays in the house.

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I like it because that's sort of what Mannequin does; he changes, and authors usually forget that. He's the Batman of the Nine.
lol @ picturing Mannequin holding up a "I'M BATMAN" sign
 
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Because the power wasn't perfect.

Jack's power is communication. As such, he gets information from shards, which gives him combat telepathy. HOWEVER, it broadcasts as well as recieves, so his allies all get the same power, tilted towards protecting Jack himself from danger. However, as seen (and what, when prompted, caused Wildbow to reveal this) with Imp suddenly getting a bad feeling when about to get Jack, his enemies also get a subtle version that intimidates them from acting on chancy plans, evening the playing field. After all, if Imp DID go for Jack, she would be hosed. So the subtle master aspect to his power actually benefited her.
So it magically shields him for 20 years in a manner that ignores how other powers are established to work, then conveniently craps out in a manner inconsistent with how powers are established to work at such a time that it provides a false victory to yank the reader's chain. And there's no foreshadowing or hints of this*. That looks like plot shields with a shitty retconned excuse to me.

*If no one notices your foreshadowing for years after publication, it's not actually foreshadowing.
 
Again, not perfect. Things were heavily against Jack in those circumstances, namely having large amounts of resources dedicated to hunting him down, and as previously noted, Golem had experience with how subtle thinker powers looked like when being trained by Taylor. Being able to make that connection is just something Jack's subtle power couldn't manage to overcome.

I mean, is his power bullshit? Yeah. Is it a good explanation on how he was able to survive for twenty fucking years? Actually, yes it is.

Managing to pull Jack's feats for maybe a year is definitely possible without that secondary power. Twenty? The idea that he had some extra space whale help there makes perfect goddamn sense. It made him not fuck up, essentially. Then he took on more risk then the shard was able to nudge into a guarantee, made personal enemies of the wrong people, gave them too much time to stew on their plans, etc.
 
Wish I could remember where I read this because I would like to quote it accurately but c'est la vie
but most people instinctually shy away from killing another person, there are a few people who don't have this instinct and are a hell a lot more deadly then the average person. They account for a majority of kills in wartime. It's where the concept of heroes (the ancient greek version of the term) comes from. Some of us are just naturally better at killing others up close and personal then the rest.
wish I could remember the facts and figures but it's been a long time, was a book about people like Audie Murphy, modern day heroes and the like.
I've always seen Jack as one of these people who go through the rest of use like a scythe. Plus once he had been around for long enough the sheer terror regular people had to feel going up against someone who seems almost unkillable because he seems just that good has to be nearly heart stopping.
 
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