Shield Hero Fanfic Rec/Idea/Discuss Thread

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So, seeing as we have a discussion thread dedicated to Shield Hero as well as a Let's Watch where we get to see some of the darker sides of the story, I figured a fanfic thread would work.

I only have two ideas to contribute, though both seem pretty wholesome to the point where I might need to rewrite the setting so that it's grittiness doesn't clash with the tone I'm going for.

The first is a simple "OC joins Naofumi's party" kind where he develops a sort of bond with Filo, and the other replaces the four heroes with OCs, with the Shield Hero being about 13 years old, the Spear Hero being a 18-year-old big brother type, the Sword Hero being a 26-year-old fujoshi, and the Bow Hero is a stoic girl.
 
My solution?

Gender flip it!

Have Naf as the only girl summoned. A hansom Prince Charming type offers to stand by her side while the other Heroes are laughing that of course the girl got the shield and how she should just stay at home at let them save the world. Instead of a false rape accusation make it so that the Prince spreads the story that she tried to seduce him and that she's a money grubbing Sl**. Why does he do this? The prince doesn't have any faith in women being strong enough to protect his homeland so he hopes that by shaming her she'll end up going back and they can summon a 4th hero (as I understand it, that's not how this works, but it's probably fair for the lore of how this works to only be known by actual mages or whatever).

Alone and with a ruined reputation, worried about being preyed upon by men (and quite possibly after a few bad encounters he shield lets her deal with) she sees a slave auction going on (because she's not going to be stupid enough to go into a back room with a slaver). One of the slaves on auction is a young boy who looks lost and alone. Knowing the feeling she uses the last of her money and buys him, taking him away and immediately destroys the control box thing (or whatever). He sticks with her however because he has nowhere else to go.

With her out of money she goes out of the city to hunt monsters and finds that while she is safe from damage, it takes her a long time to get any money to drop. The young boy offers to help but she tells him to stay back where it's safe. The young boy is scared, but when he sees a monster bite his (effectively) adopted mother he grabs a stick and pokes it to death with a lucky crit (are crits a thing? Maybe the shield draws aggro and then debuffs foes attacking the user or something). They are both shocked by this and slowly end up working together to gather money to survive.

Following the same formula you could probably keep going with this. A women that has had her reputation ruined by the kingdom and her adopted son trying to make their way in the world. The other heroes don't like them as the see her as a slaver even through she protests that's not how it is (let's say that the slave mark and magic still exists, even if the control device is gone). She could even try to get it removed, only to be refused by the kingdom as against the law (or maybe just the prince making her look bad to the other heroes by telling her the only way she can not be a slave owner is to sell her adopted son to someone else).


Anyway, that's my thoughts on it.

About the rewrite, I too was kind of annoyed by the summary. Especifically the "My solution? Gender-flip it!", because you changed so much more than that. Like:
1) The other heroes are actual jerks now.
2) The protagonist is getting harassed by the townsfolk now, or at least the threat of it hangs more heavily on her than in canon.
3) The motivations for buying the slave are changed to be more sympathetic. So is her behavior afterwards, in the long and short term.
4) The slave starts fighting for her willingly.

None of that derives necessarily, or at all, from just changing what Naofumi has in his pants. So when you summarize it as "The big change is that now he's a girl", it ends up sounding like you're coming in with the assumption that 1) Women are inherently better people, so you don't even need to actually say that girl!Nao is more moral than her boy counterpart, that's just obvious 2) Women are inherently persecuted, always, everywhere, to the point where all five alternate universes in the story have misogynistic cultures. And in at least three of those universes, it's pervasive enough that three confused teenagers, inmediately after being taken to a fantasy land and suddenly being charged with a responsibility that could very well mean their deaths, chose to instead focus on how totally ridiculous it is that they also kidnapped a woman to fight; while a fourth man, the prince, secretly agrees with them but simply decides not to say it right in her face so he can more effectively get rid of her later.
In short, imagine somebody proposed the same extensive character changes that you did, but summed up the main thrust of the AU as "Naofumi is blonde now!". It's entirely the wrong focus.

Another odd thing about this AU is who, exactly, is getting genderbent. Nao, because that's the central premise. Malty, because the plot demands there be romantic overtones between her and Nao, even if it's all fake in the end. And Ralph, because...? Not everyone is getting genderflipped, after all; the non-shield heroes prove that. One must assume, then, that there's an specific reason for each change; thus there must be something boy!Ralph can do with girl!Nao that girl!Ralph wouldn't be able to. And Morton's Fork suggest that it's the same thing that only girl!Ralph can do with boy!Nao: provide romantic tension. After all a parent-child relationship can have just about any mix of genders, but romantic relationships are almost always one male and one female.*
I'm not doubting you about how you want their relationship to be, I'm sure that if you actually wrote the story you would write it romantically. I'm sure that this is just thoughtlessness, but it's precisely by uncritically copying the original work that you end up sending similar implications to it.

*I realize this excludes gay people, and I hope I haven't offended anybody by it. But in terms of tropes and media, it's pretty much true that no couple is gay "by default", as opposed to being practically the whole point of the relationship. This what makes Ralph's change interesting: in what contexts is it important that one participant in the relationship is a girl and the other a boy? Keeping this in mind also helps with making sense of Malty's genderflip.

Edit: To be clear, this is mainly a response to @Jakinbandw's request for criticism. This was more obvious when there were less posts between our messages, oops.

[1] I mean, their no more jerks in the rewrite than in the original where they mock Nao for having a shield. It also mirrors my experiance in the real world where I have heard countless stories of a girl joining a dnd group only to be expected to play support or second fiddle to the male players. It's not 100% but it's still distressingly common.
[2] So I actually read the first chapter or so of the manga a long time ago before giving up after Nao didn't become a better person. I'm pretty sure the only town people to not treat him poorly were the blacksmith and slaver. But even more than that, look at how women are treated on the internet. If they say the wrong thing to someone popular or against a popular concept they are demonized, and people make jokes about raping them. Such actions in a society that actively hates the shield (there is apparently a church that claims that the shield user is the devil that most of the main kingdom subscribes to), but also allows slavery (and other horrific things later on), would not be unreasonable.
[3&4] Yeah, these are changes.

So honestly I was half asleep when I came up with this, but I'll walk you through the changes.

Nao is a girl.
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Girl on girl rape isn't actually treated seriously by most people. Therefor the princess would end up having to be male.
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The other heroes are shown to be rather thoughtless as even before Nao shows himself to be a jerk they all kinda mock him. People tend to mock others however they can, so picking on her for being a girl makes sense.
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Showing a girl as trying to destroy a mans purity is seen by large swaths of the internet as worse than rape (not saying its right), so I should change the accusation against Nao.
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This is shown as a society that hates women (what with them being fine with Malties fate). Misogynists would likely sexually abuse women. Also note I stated it as an option, not as a certainty.
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There is no way she'd be going into a back alley with a man like that if she was from our world. *I* don't think that *I* would go down a back alley with a man like that!
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I've already genderflipped 2 of the main players, why not a third one?
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Boys tend to like fighting. So a boy would be more willing to jump in rather than needing to be forced. We can do away with the skeeviness a bit by having him fight of his own free will.
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I guess then she'll buy him because of sympathy because we don't need her to be evil to keep the plot on track.
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A mother and son going on adventures hasn't really been done before (or at least I have only seen it in like one book) and could be kinda cool!
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to keep that I've read in this thread on track he would keep his slave brand or whatever so that it caused issues between her and the other heroes in the future, rather than allowing for an easy reconciliation.

And that was that. That's why I said genderflipping solved all the problems, because when you follow where it leads, most issues just kinda sort themselves out.


Also for your star: Have you seen shows like Sailor Moon, or Loveless, or even Madoka? A Certain Scientific Railgun? I reject this line of thinking! I flipped him because I was flipping all the other Main Characters (I even was going to flip the slave master and blacksmith before deciding that was going too far), and it allowed for a bit of nicer flow to the story.

How I imagine Shield Hero looking in my version:


How I imagine the Kid looking:
 
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My thought is why go do that? Genderswap by itself is not a solution. In the end, the solution was deal with the inconsistencies in world building and tweak the motives and personalities of those involved. (How depends on authors.)
Genderswap by itself dosen't actually do anything as can be seen in all those Naruko fictions in Naruto fandom.
 
My thought is why go do that? Genderswap by itself is not a solution. In the end, the solution was deal with the inconsistencies in world building and tweak the motives and personalities of those involved. (How depends on authors.)
Genderswap by itself dosen't actually do anything as can be seen in all those Naruko fictions in Naruto fandom.
I went through my reasoning in the spoiler. Im curous what specifically you disagree with.
 
Role reversals does change a lot actually, given how Shield Hero is basically Incel: The Anime, and thus much of the cringe stems from the role specifics. As in:

*Protagonist is now a young teen girl. Raphtalia is now Raphael, an adult man. Heck just make her that wolfman dude. Also drop the electric shock stockholming nonsense, not even role reversals can fix that.
*The princess is now a prince, and attempted to rape the protagonist, rather than accusing her of such, knowing that the word of the protagonist will mean nothing vs a prince.
*Protagonist is now the Spear Hero. The primary antagonist is now... well he's just canon Shield Hero.

Within the context of a character dropped into a medieval fantasy, having a scared young girl buy an adult man as a protector carries with it very different connotations than an angry adult man buying a young girl. Them wanting an adult protector that can't leave them or betray them is understandable. And the adult protector willingly offering to have the magical collar put back on because they know it would make the kid comfortable is more believable.
 
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You guys are making it too complicated.

Just make the character anything but Naofumi.

It's easy. All the problems of the show came from it being Naofumi, hell there was a decent fic way back before Shield Hero was even more than 10 chapters about Ranma replacing Naofumi that made it so much better. It's a shame that the fic was blasted off the face of the planet somewhere but it did really well to mix the Ranma 1/2 charm in a fantasy setting.

You need to change Naofumi, then all that's left is to do your thing. All the problems in Shield Hero eventually roost back to its protagonist.
 
You guys are making it too complicated.

Just make the character anything but Naofumi.

It's easy. All the problems of the show came from it being Naofumi, hell there was a decent fic way back before Shield Hero was even more than 10 chapters about Ranma replacing Naofumi that made it so much better. It's a shame that the fic was blasted off the face of the planet somewhere but it did really well to mix the Ranma 1/2 charm in a fantasy setting.

You need to change Naofumi, then all that's left is to do your thing. All the problems in Shield Hero eventually roost back to its protagonist.
Eh? I'm not sure I agree. The setting still tries to promote slavery as a good thing. The Queen still sends her daughter to be sexually tortured to death and it is treated as a good thing with none of the other heroes stopping it. There are other issues with the setting other than just Nao.
 
The protagonist is now the spear hero, which gets dismissed because spear users get no respect in fantasy settings that are like all swords all the time.
While I get where you're coming from, the reason why Shield Heroes get no respect go beyond just "duuuur the shield is weeeeeaaak" and deep into the history of Melromarc.

Though, given how the reason is "the original Shield Hero fought for Demi-Humans and that's why we hate all Shield Heroes!", it kinda makes you wonder why any Hero hadn't torched Melromarc to the ground if they had any moral standing.
 
Eh? I'm not sure I agree. The setting still tries to promote slavery as a good thing. The Queen still sends her daughter to be sexually tortured to death and it is treated as a good thing with none of the other heroes stopping it. There are other issues with the setting other than just Nao.

The problem is Naofumi's willingness to embrace slavery as a good thing. Slavery existing in the setting doesn't need to be bad as long as it's portrayed negatively and not uselessly.

For an example, there's a massive potential from the Shield Hero being a LITERAL Jesus figure in setting to save the slaves and go abolish the slave trade.

Naofumi's not the catalyst for the author mishandling characters and making revenge fantasy but without Naofumi there, there is no push for revenge fantasy that needs to go that far. It just follows the format to it's logical conclusion which is gross.

The first step to fixing Shield Hero is by replacing the main character with someone else entirely. Then you basically have to fix all the other broken shit like the jank ass character motivations and personality shit.
 
While I get where you're coming from, the reason why Shield Heroes get no respect go beyond just "duuuur the shield is weeeeeaaak" and deep into the history of Melromarc.

Though, given how the reason is "the original Shield Hero fought for Demi-Humans and that's why we hate all Shield Heroes!", it kinda makes you wonder why any Hero hadn't torched Melromarc to the ground if they had any moral standing.
That point just means that making them the Spear Hero has even fewer problems, because Shield Hero being dissed wasn't really about it being the Shield.

As for why no Hero hasn't torched Melromarc, that's easy. Have it so that the spell seeks people who are heroes in the Greek sense, which would obviously be the kind of sense the that those doing the summoning would assume. As for the protagonist and the mythic hero that fought for demi-humans, well there isn't anything that actually prohibits a hero in the Greek sense from not also being a hero in the modern sense, they just generally weren't. It wouldn't occur to the aristocracy of Melromarc that summoning a 'hero' could be someone who 'fights monsters... and the rights of the downtrodden', or if they did, they'd assume by downtrodden they meant 'human' and not 'those filthy demihumans that are the same as monsters, just more tameable'.
 
The problem is Naofumi's willingness to embrace slavery as a good thing. Slavery existing in the setting doesn't need to be bad as long as it's portrayed negatively and not uselessly.

For an example, there's a massive potential from the Shield Hero being a LITERAL Jesus figure in setting to save the slaves and go abolish the slave trade.

Naofumi's not the catalyst for the author mishandling characters and making revenge fantasy but without Naofumi there, there is no push for revenge fantasy that needs to go that far. It just follows the format to it's logical conclusion which is gross.

The first step to fixing Shield Hero is by replacing the main character with someone else entirely. Then you basically have to fix all the other broken shit like the jank ass character motivations and personality shit.
Bleh, I guess that's fair.

Okay, no more concept writing for me. I'm not good at it.
 
Not really a deep story idea, but I did see someone post on a different forum the idea of Django from Django Unchained ending up getting summoned to the world. Which, you know, could be pretty dang fun. I wouldn't mind seeing him start some violence against deserving targets. If he ends up as one of the summoned heroes, I can see him cheerfully taking full advantage of the limited legal immunity he has to free a fair number of slaves, with as much smugness as Schultz had when he shot the sheriff and politely requested they bring in the marshal. I mean, Naofumi's legal immunity was impressive enough to get away with raping a princess, so surely a slave revolt or two isn't off the tables, right?

(... Of course, in their suggested idea, Django actually ended up sympathetic to Naofumi and sided with him, slavery and all, in Naofumi's rage against the world, which is, uh... yeah... maybe not do that.)
 
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*Protagonist is now the Spear Hero. The primary antagonist is now... well he's just canon Shield Hero.
Canon shield hero would be a LOT nicer without feeling pressured to resort to terrible things thanks to a ruined reputation.

It's easy. All the problems of the show came from it being Naofumi, hell there was a decent fic way back before Shield Hero was even more than 10 chapters about Ranma replacing Naofumi that made it so much better. It's a shame that the fic was blasted off the face of the planet somewhere but it did really well to mix the Ranma 1/2 charm in a fantasy setting.
this fic? Ranma of the Shield Chapter 1, a ranma fanfic | FanFiction




Personally I want to see Shiro from Log Horizon with the sheild. He'd still be fighting against the stigma of the shield, and the sucker-punch phony rape charge might still happen...but he'd soon be laying his own schemes and thwarting malty. He'd also at least keep his money and armor on account of being suspicious, and much faster to build bridges with the other heros (though spear hero might be a lost cause).


Best of all, I'd like to see him recreate some of the stunts he pulled involving epic-tier world changing contracts...
 
Canon shield hero would be a LOT nicer without feeling pressured to resort to terrible things thanks to a ruined reputation.


this fic? Ranma of the Shield Chapter 1, a ranma fanfic | FanFiction




Personally I want to see Shiro from Log Horizon with the sheild. He'd still be fighting against the stigma of the shield, and the sucker-punch phony rape charge might still happen...but he'd soon be laying his own schemes and thwarting malty. He'd also at least keep his money and armor on account of being suspicious, and much faster to build bridges with the other heros (though spear hero might be a lost cause).


Best of all, I'd like to see him recreate some of the stunts he pulled involving epic-tier world changing contracts...

Dunno it's bin literally years and it wasn't on FanFiction.net all I remember was finding a thread about it on Tumblr in like 2014-2015
 
Canon shield hero would be a LOT nicer without feeling pressured to resort to terrible things thanks to a ruined reputation.
That doesn't preclude him being an antagonist, though. Motoyasu's an antagonist in canon despite being a much nicer person than canon Naofumi. Even when the light novel's narrating about what a poopyhead Motoyasu is, it's about him being foolish rather than malicious.

It doesn't even preclude him being a villain. Plenty of villains could have been better people if things had turned out differently. Anakin Skywalker probably wouldn't have been a mass murderer if not for his mother being tortured to death and Palpatine grooming him, but Darth Vader's still one of the most iconic villains around. For Naofumi, my experience with reader tolerance for bad guy sob stories says that if he were positioned as an antagonist people would be cheering for his demise.
 
That doesn't preclude him being an antagonist, though. Motoyasu's an antagonist in canon despite being a much nicer person than canon Naofumi. Even when the light novel's narrating about what a poopyhead Motoyasu is, it's about him being foolish rather than malicious.

It doesn't even preclude him being a villain. Plenty of villains could have been better people if things had turned out differently. Anakin Skywalker probably wouldn't have been a mass murderer if not for his mother being tortured to death and Palpatine grooming him, but Darth Vader's still one of the most iconic villains around. For Naofumi, my experience with reader tolerance for bad guy sob stories says that if he were positioned as an antagonist people would be cheering for his demise.

That's...kinda my point? WITHOUT the betrayal and phony rape charge, he doesn't really become viewed as an antagonist to the other heroes in the first place. Unless I misunderstood the original post that I was replying to-I thought that the Malty betrayal was getting derailed as a side effect of the changes, which would in turn mean that Naufumis descent into villain-like behavior doesn't happen, or at least nowhere near as easily.
 
That's...kinda my point? WITHOUT the betrayal and phony rape charge, he doesn't really become viewed as an antagonist to the other heroes in the first place. Unless I misunderstood the original post that I was replying to-I thought that the Malty betrayal was getting derailed as a side effect of the changes, which would in turn mean that Naufumis descent into villain-like behavior doesn't happen, or at least nowhere near as easily.
Ah, I was interpreting "canon shield hero" as "Naofumi, acting as he does in canon with the misanthropy and the slavery and so forth." That characterization is, after all, rather a sticking point with most of the people I've seen comment on Shield Hero here.
 
An crossover idea I saw someone bring up was Adam Taurus from rwby as the sword hero after he dies (with some details being changed of course). I can already see shit hitting the fan with one of the three holy heroes turning out to be a Demi-human from another world, and one who is not too cooperative at that. The church will throw a fit for sure.
 
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An crossover idea I saw someone bring up was Adam Taurus from rwby as the sword hero after he dies (with some details being changed of course). I can already see shit hitting the fan with one of the three holy heroes turning out to be a Demi-human from another world, and one who is not too cooperative at that. The church will throw a fit for sure.
Think I was the one who proposed that, or a similar idea.

Shit would hit the fan the moment he finds that dude who abused a Demi-Human to death.
 
Hmm, would he keep his aura and semblance, if so i think the world/sword would balance that a bit. Much to the confusion and frustration of Adam I bet. Also, starting a level one when I think his level in rwby would have been at least 50 or 55. Adam has the power to rekt house, even at level one, but he has to now work his way up back to his old strength.
 
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I'd like to see a fanfic where someone was isekaied into the body of a bird like Filo. But mostly, although I like the basic concept of shield hero, I don't like harem content and didn't really get attached to any of the individual characters. So I'd be more interested in seeing a likable character from some other series or an OC get isekaied into the world of Shield hero but have a completely separate adventure with different secondary characters.
 
Shiro of Log Horizon as the spear hero. Let the idiot king and scheming malty find themselves trapped in their own webs! Let the enemies be Rooted, blinded, and manipulated!

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