Shazam!

I mean, yeah, Shazam bombed. I didn't say anything in regards to it at all. I just saw the story, posted it here and went "man the Rock's a dumbass."

Fair enough, to be clear I know the Rock has a massive ego too

The Rock has a lot of stories about his over sized ego.

But he's better then Levi.

I clearly sort of missed the whole Levi drama, what even was it?

I didn't even know he was Fandral in Thor 2 and Thor 3 (lol, lmao) until the other day either
 
Jordan Peterson fan and antivaxxer.

Oh. Well that's just great.

Levi has also not so subtly implicated Snyder fans for the movie failing (???) as well as the marketing. It's kind of embarassing, noone else in the movie's cast is doing this - I'd say its weird but given the above - not so much.

Sandberg, for his part, is saying he's never doing superhero stuff again.
 
Not to get it twisted, these are both clearly just bad movies, way too expensive for what they are and what their reach is, and the studio politics around cameos and the structure of the wider Shazam story are less relevant to their lack of success than that cost. That Shazam 2 is part of the DCEU and released after Gunn and Safran took it out behind the shed probably doesn't help, though is still probably not key here.

I just think it's worth emphasising that Dwayne Johnson is legitimately a powerful producer. He's built up a lot of star power in his post-bald era and throws his weight around, and was definitely doing that in the chaotic period before Gunn and Safran were appointed. That's not itself really unusual as far as Hollywood goes (the film industry is full of guys throwing their weight around) and it ultimately didn't matter that he was derailing 'the plan' for the franchise, but it's definitely a thing that he does. Where it at all matters is probably for him personally: Johnson is very highly paid and assertive in studio politics, but he might have overplayed himself with Black Adam. How big a draw he is remains ambiguous, he's got a strong brand and played significant roles in some monster films, but you look at films like Baywatch or Skyscraper or even Rampage, his strongest non-Jumanji non-Fast film, and he doesn't seem to be a huge moneymaker. Would Red Notice have made half a billion if it was in cinemas, in more normal times? Seems implausible.

Levi is, by comparison, just some guy and his petulance here is pathetic. To some extent it's not surprising because the guy has no star power: Shazam was his first big live action role and his one chance to really go big, and now it's crumbling around him. Maybe he should spend less time being a weird anti-vax dipshit, less time moaning about Zack Snyder, and more time sending emails to James Gunn lol
 
To some extent it's not surprising because the guy has no star power: Shazam was his first big live action role and his one chance to really go big, and now it's crumbling around him.
I thought Levi was already a star from his run on the Chuck TV series? It's just that he oddly didn't remain too high-profile for very long after the series ended. TV stars might not always breakthrough to become billionaires via big hits on the movie screen, but they can have a lot of longevity and remain relevant in pop culture for years, or even across decades--look at Nathan Fillion or Katee Sackhoff.
 
I thought Levi was already a star from his run on the Chuck TV series? It's just that he oddly didn't remain too high-profile for very long after the series ended. TV stars might not always breakthrough to become billionaires via big hits on the movie screen, but they can have a lot of longevity and remain relevant in pop culture for years, or even across decades--look at Nathan Fillion or Katee Sackhoff.

Chuck was a reasonably notable TV series but it only barely made it to its own conclusion and I don't know if it made Levi a TV star. It maybe got him his role in Tangled, but I definitely don't think he has the cachet of a Fillion or a Sackhoff.
 
Have you never considered that maybe your film just sucks?
variety.com

Zachary Levi Says ‘Shazam 2’ Reviews Were ‘Perplexingly Low and People Were Insanely Unkind’: ‘I Have No Idea Where We Go From Here’

It’s been several months since “Shazam! Fury of the Gods” flopped at the box office, and star Zachary Levi is still somewhat perplexed by the comic book sequel’s reception. …
Levi appeared on a new episode of "The FilmUp Podcast" (via IGN) and lamented over people being so "insanely unkind" to his second "Shazam" movie. Critics dismissed the movie (it holds a 49% on Rotten Tomatoes) and it only grossed $57 million at the domestic box office. Worldwide, "Fury of the Gods" didn't even crack $160 million.

"I've been a part of things, and as much as I wish they were good, I know they're okay," he added. "I know that they miss a lot. And I'm not saying 'Shazam! Fury of the Gods' is some perfect, Orson Welles-like masterpiece, but it's a good darn movie."

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With the DC Universe now being overhauled by James Gunn and Peter Safran, Levi says he has no idea what the future has in store for his Shazam. The superhero was not included in the duo's first slate announcement for the new DC Universe, which kicks off with 2025's "Superman: Legacy."

"I have no idea where we go from here," Levi said. "I just hope that or believe that history will show… it will be one of those things that people will go back, people will watch 'Fury of the Gods' on home streaming or on a plane or whatever, and it will be this movie that they heard so much shit about and then they will be like, 'Well, wait a minute.'"
 
I mean... I don't think it helped declaring the DCEU dead THEN releasing several films tied to it. But yeah. *shrug*
 
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Zachary Levi probably: "Is my movie bad? ... no, it's Big Pharma trying to silence me."
 
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