RoboRenee
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wait there's a blue beetle movie? Which dude?
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Are you asking about the star or the character? Xolo Maridueña stars as Jaime Reyes.
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I'd suspect it would be Jaime Reyes third blue beetle given that Dan Garret and Ted Kord are both dead.
Of course, if they did ever make a Dan Garret movie then I suppose they could always include the mission where the Dan Garret Blue Beetle snuck into Germany, knocked out Hitler after witnessing Hitler reveal himself as the devil and stole his mustache because I guess US intelligence wanted to humiliate Hitler.
RoboRenee
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Jaime's my boy I'm actually mildly interested in that. Which stinks considering it'll probably be bad.
Ted came back in Rebirth (don't think they've ever explained how lol - I think it was implied Justice League 3000 somehow did it?)
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Will Disney and company ever admit it, is the question?
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I am conflicted about this because on one hand I do think the Superhero genre is kinda overplayed and boring at this point and I want more attention to other things (I also really dont like that Disney basically kidnaps lots of good promising actors and wastes their potential giving exposition in front of green screens) but on the other hand this era of super hero movie, the era of (were kinda running out of material what do we got?) is also the era where there is more focus given to non white characters and stories and I dont want Holywood to take the death of the superhero movie as evidence they need to go back to big action stuff starring only straight white guys.
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Cutthroat Island killed pirate films, but it was the fourth pirate bomb, a decade after the first such bomb, and set records for financial loss on a film.
The film companies will acknowledge theyre getting too stale, but only after a few more and bigger duds all in a row.
Sucal
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I mean, none of Disney's movies have flopped just yet. Quantamania has come the closest so far, but they haven't had an outright bomb yet.
Now if Guardians 3 flops, then they might start to get worried
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Really? Black Widow earned a bit less than DC's Black Adam, with both films having comparable production budgets. If Black Adam is considered a box office failure, I have to think that Black Widow was the same. (Then again, maybe Black Adam's marketing budget was just that much higher...?)
Sucal
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I believe black widow had a lower advertising budget and was also simultaneously released on the former Disney Plus early access promo. I don't think it was revealed how many people paid to watch it at home
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Black Widow gets graded on a curve because of a bunch of stuff separate from the movie itself
Hykal94
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What strike?
Hopefully never. I really don't care about the gnashing of teeth about superhero films. I like them and I go watching them. I am more pissed that where I live, there's not a movie theather.
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Shanejayell
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I also think they shouldn't have said they were rebooting the DCU until AFTER this and Aquaman II hit. I expect a lot of fans to go 'Whats the point of seeing this if it gets rebooted anyway?'
This is such nonsense though? Like last I checked Dwayne Johnson wasn't the boss of WB. If they wanted him to be in the post-credits - he'd be in the post credits.
What are they saying happened? Poor Zach Levi showed up outside the soundstage in his Shazam outfit and was all "please sir, can I come inside" and the Rock is blocking the door? Lol.
And anyway, I guarantee you that Shazam didn't bomb because the Rock didn't want Zachary Levi or whatever in a post credits scene. That's some real Marvel-brain watch-the-movie-for-the-post-credits thing. It's just silly.
This is the same stupid bullshit WB always does, nameless, faceless execs on background cast blame at the talent they hire for when shit blows up in their face for their dumb decisions. Here its just Levi amplifying it.
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?????? how would they get him to turn up on set if he didn't want to be there lol
Anyway, it's true that Johnson isn't the boss of WB, but he's also not just some guy. Film production is political and given that he was a producer on Black Adam, his personal production company was involved, etc, the idea that he simply couldn't interfere is a little silly. Powerful actors have all kinds of influence over films and the film industry! That's not some weird thing!
Er - eh? Who didn't want to be there?
Who even cares? Let's say this story is probably true. It's probably true because WB didn't give a shit to argue the point, because its a quite meaningless post-credit scene that has nothing to do with the sucess or lack therof of either film. The fact this dumb nothing story has been released at all is still just WB blaming the talent for their own failures.
"Dwayne Johnsons' ego is so big, look what he did to poor Zachary Levi, we are bringing up this stuff about a movie that came out in October 2022 now for no paritcular reason, and certainly it has nothing at all to do with distracting from our latest epic financial disaster (which just so happens to also star Zachary Levi)." I mean its so transparent.
The only thing more pathetic than them spreading this story at all is Levi being the one to amplify it.
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Hykal94
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Bro, Black Adam is Shazam's nemesis. This is like if Lex Luthor had a movie and the actor who plays him refuses to have Superman to be on set.
It's not even the whole post credit scenes are important, it's not. It's the Rock having a massive ego and potentially lying about Black Adam's profits so he can feel big and important. It's insane.
It's not even the whole post credit scenes are important, it's not. It's the Rock having a massive ego and potentially lying about Black Adam's profits so he can feel big and important. It's insane.
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Johnson. The guy you said would be there if they said he had to be there.
I mean, you obviously lol
Well in that case no wonder what you said made no sense - this is about an assertion that Johnson blocked Levi from being on Black Adam, not Johnson refusing to show up for Shazam 2.
Yeah yeah hah hah, you know exactly what I mean. Case in point:
That's not important either. Like do you not notice how you're talking about Dwayne Johnsons' supposed behavior (over which WB had noooo control, the poor little dears) for some dumb post-credits scene in a movie that came out six months ago in a thread about Shazam 2, a movie that has absolutely nothing to do with that, and in particular whose financial success or failure has no relation to that?
Like I guarantee you not a single normie audience member knows or cares who the hell Shazam's nemesis is. The movie just isn't any good and no one wanted to see it.
If you honestly can't tell that this is just inane gossip meant to make people chatter about irrelevant nonsense like Dwayne Johnson's ego rather than WB putting out another failed stinker just like Black Adam, I don't know what to tell you.
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My mistake. But notionally the idea that the film's producer couldn't block that kind of thing, especially given the enormous chaos at WB, is still silly. Like, again, not just some guy. Equally, Black Adam is a bad film in large part because it was a Johnson vehicle and he had a high level of control over its production. Don't be daft about this.
Hykal94
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I mean, yeah, Shazam bombed. I didn't say anything in regards to it at all. I just saw the story, posted it here and went "man the Rock's a dumbass."
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Damn, I thought you meant Zachary is a dumbass.
I feel like this story is half-true. Warner Brothers has a vested interest in putting the blame all on The Rock for its recent flops, especially with how heavy his involvement in Black Adam was, and it sounds believable when he may have cooked the books. But it doesn't change the fact that Shazam 2 is by all reports just plain mediocre, and unless Dwayne Johnson was in the writers' room cooking the scripts too, he can't be the sole one responsible. And Zachary Levi having had recent controversies might be really eager to shift the blame elsewhere, either out of preservation or just because he's an asshole. On the other hand, we know from the infamous Fast&Furious drama that led to Dwayne's character's departure from the main series that the man does have an ego, so it's not that unlikely.
Personally, I think it's a combination of these factors.