Semper Ad Meliora (Code Geass/Britannian Royalty Quest)

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[][ARA] Psionic Medical Corps. (Crowley Develops Field Medics/Doctors with Psionic Bonuses)
[X][ARA] Technical Research Staff (Jaeger Expands Psionic Specialties/Organic Experimentation Bonuses)

While they won't be ready for the invasion having medics for after can save lives in future conflict. The shonbi are covert verses the more public military. I'd rather have the more public and numerous source to have medics. Potentially if we get enough maybe we can build clinics. As for putting them in research that just slows them down. We also have alot of learning actions we probably won't spend the actions to develop them.
 
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[X][CCW] You will declare for the Empress.
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[X][CtN] Reject Completed Action as Insufficient.
[X][ARA] Technical Research Staff (Jaeger Expands Psionic Specialties/Organic Experimentation Bonuses)
 
While they won't be ready for the invasion having medics for after can save lives in future conflict. The shonbi are covert verses the more public military. I'd rather have the more public and numerous source to have medics. Potentially if we get enough maybe we can build clinics. As for putting them in research that just slows them down. We also have alot of learning actions we probably won't spend the actions to develop them.

I mean medics will be slower yes. But medics aren't the end all be all of what we get from Jaegar's option. It gives a broad spectrum of improvements to his actions. A lot of which we definitely will be taking. That said I do expect we'd also spend the actions to work on developing the medical field in the future there also, it's just too useful and dovetails too well with his tech tree to make me think we wouldn't pursue it.

Something like a technological implant to amplify psionic power would be a lot easier to develop if he had them in his department. And that kind of thing would be very useful for general use, but also for boosting Lelouch so he can fight the New Heaven boss in the future.
 
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You'll get the chance to develop the same options later on. Receiving the end result will not be automatic, you will have to spend actions, you will have to succeed at them, and they will probably cost more money in the grand scheme of things.

You get to improve your shinobi's skills very quickly with only one action, you get to develop professional psionic healers with only one action, or they become academics that teach their skills over a long period of time and open up extra research options instead.

As a general warning, please keep discussion polite and civil.
Thanks for the further clarification, and sorry if I sounded combative. But yes, I still think this option is for the best, even with the emphasis put on the additional time, uncertainty and money. Because at least the last of those will be nearly a non-factor if we manage to in our invasion to the Federation. And while the uncertainty and additional time/actions required would be an actual problem, there still exists a chance for the same results.

Also, I'm interested in stuff like research beyond even the cutting-edge stuff around the world. I'm even holding out hopes for really long-term stuff like finding out the biological and other mechanisms of how the psionics actually work, and if it would be possible to artificially awaken such abilities. Or strengthen them.

But on a more medium term, Jaeger does have that option for opening a psionic school/university/(???) in his tech-tree. And these two siblings as academics would improve upon that option even further. Yes, maybe not with as laser-sharp focus with fast results in a couple of fields. But the fruits of the long-term research if manage to build good enough foundations for such an organziation...

However, I will point out here that I don't think that the Psionic Medical Corps would be a bad idea. Especially the limited amount of Learning actions available would sting somewhat when looking to go for further research.

But that applies to the to the two other options too, if we are thinking about the invasion. Because based on what Slayer has said, I assume that getting even the partial benefits in time for it would be an action in either Intrigue (for the Shinobi) or Piety (for the Medical Corps) in the next Phase. Which is pretty much locked down for Piety (weapon/artifact analysis and maybe Mantle Questline?) as well as Intrigue (have to finish Shadow Administration and take an action to pre-infiltrate before the invasion).

I just see slightly more value at the moment for aiming for something other than the low-hanging fruits, as we are likely either to not benefit at all or only moderately from them in the time for our interference in the civil war from them. Making them insufficiently low-hanging for my tastes in this scenario, when there are bigger rewards available if we have the patience.

And again, the immediate organic experimentation bonuses would be a thing. Which makes me pretty stoked about finally finishing Jaeger's initial research branch. We shouldn't sideline that when discussing about what we would be receiving.
 
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Because based on what Slayer has said, I assume that getting even the partial benefits in time for it would be an action in either Intrigue (for the Shinobi) or Piety (for the Medical Corps) in the next Phase. Which is pretty much locked down for Piety (weapon/artifact analysis and maybe Mantle Questline?) as well as Intrigue (have to finish Shadow Administration and take an action to pre-infiltrate before the invasion).

Yeah, Intrigue is fully booked, Piety has reverse engineering basically locked in. So there's a single slot left, and the healers would compete against options that opened up from the Combat Training, and following up on the Mantle questline, both of which could potentially be as immediately useful.

The fact there's so much competition is a good part of why I'm fine with a slow rollout.
 
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The siblings would take one or two learning/piety actions no matter if combat medics or academic staff wins.

But honestly I'm ok with either one. Both should be usefull to us.

I'm voting for the combat medics, simply because it was mentioned by Lelouch that medics would be usefull
 
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Let's be clear that a civil war in the CF will not be done this year. We will need our turn next year for the Diplomatic options to influence the war though propaganda and Negotiating surrenders. We don't know what will even be available for us after the CF civil war, but I'm fairly certain it'll be more interesting than repeating this action for at least another turn or two. Our fleet is going to be tied up and in need of repairs for a while after the war anyway, so some of it's benefits aren't even ones we could exploit for a few years.

So, with the high likelyhood we wouldn't select this again until turn 13, I vote to accept it now.

[X][ARA] Technical Research Staff (Jaeger Expands Psionic Specialties/Organic Experimentation Bonuses)

This is very clearly the path to Psionic Longevity that is the key to Lelouch living until first contact. I'd rather make background gains towards it now than trade for short gains in medicine.
 
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This talk about learning research options jogged something in my memory. During Turn 5 (Phase II) we only managed to get the second tier of Madman's Thesis. So I have to ask.
@Slayer Anderson Are the expanded learning options opened by the siblings becoming Technical Research Staff what we missed that time and this is basically an potential option to unlock that research due to crit? Or would any research be a side path?
And if not. Will completing both available Jeager trees open the path we missed during the next roll for projects (most likely as a lower tier? Or will that path be gone forever?
I remember that it was mentioned that unless we failed spectacularly in reverse engineering the Gawain we would get options to try again later after some other developments would make the project feasible if we failed a tier. I was wondering if this was an example of a similar mechanic.

EDIT: Why I think it is likely? Projects to study the biology, genetics and neurology of psionic talents would be something that Jeager would want to do but due to being on the run wouldn't be able to get the subjects to even start the basic research. While his other two projects most likely already had some literature. And he most likely didn't want to propose human experimentation projects so soon after getting his new job. He might be mad but isn't stupid and didn't know then how Lelouch would react.

EDIT2: I know it was partially answered then but I'm curious if that research offered by the siblings is something that Jaeger might do in a future tree. Or if anything changed from those ancient times (almost 3 years ago).
It depends on the actions specifically. In general, the learning options will be soft lock-outs. I plan on having 'Madman's Thesis' recur every now and then to expand options on what Jeagar develops. The 120 options will be the new low or medium bar for the next research action. Given that there's plenty of time to do attempt more research on the same subject and push things further... outside of a crit-fail, you won't find many research actions hard-locked.
 
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Is it possible to assign the sibling healers in different branches? Or rotate them or their knowledge to other branches when they become loyal enough after some time passes?
 
Slayer, if you find it annoying for me to try answer question directed at you just say and I will stop. But meanwhile:
@Slayer Anderson Are the expanded learning options opened by the siblings becoming Technical Research Staff what we missed that time and this is basically an potential option to unlock that research due to crit? Or would any research be a side path?
And if not. Will completing both available Jeager trees open the path we missed during the next roll for projects (most likely as a lower tier? Or will that path be gone forever?
From what I remember or can guess... Opening up the previously failed research paths will be most likely available to be rolled again later with lowered difficulties after we complete enough(?) of our already opened research brances. Which might apply also to some(?) other research projects that have tiered success goals.

On what Jaeger's still locked research might be: how would Lelouch know? If Jaeger doesn't feel confident enough about presenting it, Lelouch won't likely have the means to come up with any kind of firm conclusions. And not much reason to delve deeper, while his timetable is always so busy.
Is it possible to assign the sibling healers in different branches? Or rotate them or their knowledge to other branches when they become loyal enough after some time passes?
Based on previous answers to these kinds of questions? Most likely no, to both make the choices meaningful and reduce headaches for the QM with the extra complexities it would cause. In-quest reasoning would most likely be something along the lines of the siblings settling to whatever occupation they themselves chose, and making a career out of it instead of jumping between what they do which would lead them to accomplishing less in any particular field they try. Or so I'd at least guess?
 
Irish is supposed to be Dutch from Black Lagoon. If you cut out the url after .jpg the image loads

Although before clicking the link I was originally thinking "Irish" was a reference to Red from the Shawshank Redemption who got his name "cause on account of being Irish" and who had a reputation for being able to get things
"I got a plan Arthur, Revy, Milly"

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Rereading the results got me thinking, it was probably the Praetorians that tried to infiltrate New Caledonia, but why are we sending the captured ones to the indonesian confederation?

No matter who hired them shouldn't we either dispose of them completly or at least send them to Area 8 for imprisonment?
 
We really need to bring up the standard of living. The first thing the natives know us for is drafting them into the army. Not a good look at all. Especially with us bringing in immigrants.

It's funny that so many were against what nobles do in Britain but we ourselves haven't really been paying attention to the civilian market either.
 
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