Rule The Waves 3 - A Graphical Experiment - Complete
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[x] We are burning through modern advanced destroyers - we need to rebuild that force
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do they have enough submarines left that we need to worry about? I'm reasonably happy with the Cosmaos in general; skimping on ASW feels like a dangerous trend in general, but I don't know if they have enough sub forces left to really worry about it right now
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[X] Small missile cruisers are clearly capable of going toe-to-toe with much larger enemies - keep building the Cosmao
...Shit. You're absolutely right and I am disapointed in myself for not realizing that. Changing my vote.
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4WheelSword
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I think Germany and Italy have 11 submarines combined.
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Assuming, of course, that we can believe our intelligence department about anything
[X] Small missile cruisers are clearly capable of going toe-to-toe with much larger enemies - keep building the Cosmao
The postwar prime minister is probably going to demand another twenty destroyers as soon as the ink dries on the postwar budget cuts, so.
In addition to the 20 destroyer event, there's also the 5 battleship and 10/12 cruiser events.
It's also possible to build very small destroyers or cruisers that are still useful, so if it comes down to it, we can make it work.
Is it even possible to get the battleship event in... (checks date) 1977? What would you even put on it by then? I guess you could try and make an arsenal ship kind of thing.
Night
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Yes.
Double-ended heavy guns appears to be how the game describes it by then. (Battlecruisers are single-ended heavy guns.)
4WheelSword
The original N-body Problem
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If we got the post-50's capital ship building event, we'd be building BC's as we have still never built a Dreadnought.
Also no update today, I woke up late so I'm chilling today. More tomorrow.
Also no update today, I woke up late so I'm chilling today. More tomorrow.
[X] Small missile cruisers are clearly capable of going toe-to-toe with much larger enemies - keep building the Cosmao
Decent punch, and the smaller hull means they can be produced in greater numbers - and the loss of any one is less of a blow than a larger missile cruiser would be
Also, that 3-4-3 all forward layout on that German battlecruiser is cursed, lol
Decent punch, and the smaller hull means they can be produced in greater numbers - and the loss of any one is less of a blow than a larger missile cruiser would be
Also, that 3-4-3 all forward layout on that German battlecruiser is cursed, lol
GiovanniBlasini
Transhumanist Nutcase from Niops IX
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[X] Small missile cruisers are clearly capable of going toe-to-toe with much larger enemies - keep building the Cosmao
Ace - and then some
4WheelSword
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What should we do with this budget? Small missile cruisers are clearly capable of going toe-to-toe with much larger enemies - keep building the Cosmao
Cruiser Force
With orders placed for four more of the Cosmao-class, we bring our total complement of these advanced cruisers to twelve - a fine force for the next two decades. They are unlikely to be of use during this war, but the next? The one after? They will be fine ships for continuing our modern strategies into the future.
With Italian forces in both Greece and Crete holding on for dear life despite their almost total disconnect from supply for many months, we order two carriers into the area to provide additional air support to our ground forces. Unfortunately it seems we have an intelligence leak and the Italians move to counter with forces of their own, ambushing us on an overcast January day, mere hours after the new year. Joffre and Bearn immediately begin developing strike packages to funnel into the approaching enemy ships, as a cruiser division moves to cut off their approach. The first wave of SSM's are launched, countermeasures are launched and despite it all Suchet is hit amidships. A merchant is hit by a second pair, undefended by CIWS and other active defences.
The first air strike begins its approach to enemy ships, seventeen fast attackers escorted in by sixteen swing wing interceptors. The fighters engage first, launching a wave of AAM's at the enemies CAP, disrupting their formations as the attackers begin their missile attacks. Planes are shot down, punched out of the air by SAM's launched from surface ships, tens of hits are reported against enemy warships, and one is received by HMS York, an allied cruiser attached to our force.
Heavy rain sets in, and carrier captains murmur concerns about landing their strike packages in these conditions. Suchet finally manages to douse her fire some two hours after she was hit, reporting ready for further combat operations, only to be hit by a missile from an unknown launcher late in the day. The fire is doused and she is ordered back to port - better to lose her for now than forever. A second strike package is formed up as the rain eases, a smaller package coordinated to hopefully hit enemy carriers. Bearn is hit while launching aircraft from her catapults, an ASM slamming into her superstructure just aft of the bridge. Undeterred, the CAG continues air operations as DAMCON efforts are continued around him.
- Damage across the fleet is significant, but not disabling. HMS Bedford and Suchet were both badly damaged, while the other British cruiser HMS York was more lightly hit, as was Bearn and the destroyer HMS Cynthia. More expensive to replace is the massive stocks of missiles and other munitions that were expended during the battle, but this is the price of war.
- The air battle was a brutal affair. Of the 236 operational aircraft at the beginning of the battle, twenty-two French aircraft were lost. Five were shot down by SAM's and AA guns, sixteen were lost in air combat (primarily to enemy CAPs) and one was crashed on landing. The Italians, meanwhile, had ten carrier decks providing 516 aircraft to the theatre. Thirteen were confirmed shot down by SAM's and other AA fire, thirteen were lost in landing accidents and other issues, and thirty-eight were confirmed shot down by post-battle analysis of gun camera and radar recordings. A further fifty or so were lost with their carrier.
- The Italian carrier Claudio Druso reportedly capsized some two hours after the end of the engagement, after having been struck by a pair of ASM's fired from MB.330 attackers. Survivors are washing up on the islands of Therasia and Santorini and are being treated surprisingly well by the locals.
Two units are being hailed as heroes of the battle - 17851 Escadrille deployed aboard the Bearn have sixteen confirmed kills and 15896 Escadrille aboard the Joffre have eleven. Of the former unit, Captain du Fregate Laurent has five kills to her name and is the first female flying ace in the Aeronavale.
The Glorious 12th of February
In a brief action at dawn on the 12th, a group of French protected cruisers catch and sink a pair of Italian armoured cruisers and escorting destroyers. If the Italians are convinced that feeding their squadrons piecemeal into the grinder, what can we do but sink them. Another Italian group attempts to intercept a relief convoy, and the light cruiser Muzio Attendolo is sunk as well as her two escorting destroyers. Sadly, the destroyer Hova, engaged in battle around Crete almost without respite since June of 1976 (approaching two years) hits a mine while returning to port and sinks - though most of her crew are recovered safely. A replacement class to follow up the Poignard will be named for her, which changes little about the design but adds an additional SSM tube forwards of the bridge.
Of the twelve Poignard-class destroyers originally deployed to the Med, six remain. All six were present at the July '76 battle at Cape Matapan, and all six have been active in the vital defence of Crete. They have provided shore bombardment, air defence, convoy escort and fleet escort at different times across the two years, and what little relief the crews have had has come in the form of shore leave either in Crete herself or on mainland Greece. They, along with the cruisers they have been working alongside, are perhaps some of the most skilled crews we have available to us.
Almost on the 2nd anniversary of the wars beginning, Spain joins the conflict on our side. It would seem they are hoping to be in at the death and take advantage of the enemies weakness to get a seat at the peace table. Frankly it's hard to mind - we are not in this for land or prestige, but to crush autocracy in Europe once and for all. This ideological struggle will end one way or the other and sixty fresh submarines, as well as a fleet of convoy escorts and trade protection ships will be welcomed gratefully.
It is April of 1978. We are to begin building new destroyers as other ships are commissioned. How many should we build?
[ ] At least three divisions - Northern Europe, the Med, SEA.
[ ] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.
[ ] As many as possible, escorts are our fleets lifeblood.
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[X] As many as possible, escorts are our fleets lifeblood.
We can always halt or cancel construction if the war ends unexpectedly.
We can always halt or cancel construction if the war ends unexpectedly.
4WheelSword
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2 immediately, with a significant number in the coming months.
[X] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.
I'm going to put down a vote for just the 5, since I'm interested in revisiting the idea of building some more shore HSSM stations. Not expecting "as many DDs as possible" to be a bad call though should we go for it.
I'm going to put down a vote for just the 5, since I'm interested in revisiting the idea of building some more shore HSSM stations. Not expecting "as many DDs as possible" to be a bad call though should we go for it.
How many is a "division"? The 5 ship cap?
4WheelSword
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[X] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.
MordredRaal
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[X] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.
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[X] As many as possible, escorts are our fleets lifeblood.
We've been getting good work out of these little bastards, let's get some more.
More carriers will be nice later, but for now, dessies are at least reasonably quick to build.
We've been getting good work out of these little bastards, let's get some more.
More carriers will be nice later, but for now, dessies are at least reasonably quick to build.
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[X] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.
I don't want to spend all our spare cash on them, because planes and carriers are expensive and also necessary, but we do need a lot.
I don't want to spend all our spare cash on them, because planes and carriers are expensive and also necessary, but we do need a lot.
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[X] At least five divisions, as this war has gutted our heavy destroyer force.