Also wtf Magia record.
Theres some nice costumes in there. Theres one straight out of Assassin's Creed.

Just that apparently like the gacha, some of the designs are hit and miss

To be fair, "over-elaborate outfit that would be tolerable if the crotch wasn't missing" seems to be an ongoing character design fad in Japan these days?

I mean, it's a terrible fad and everyone involved should stab themselves with artistic implements of their choice until they develop a decent sense of aesthetics, but I guessssss it's not fair to blame Magia Record alone?
 
I guessssss it's not fair to blame Magia Record alone?
Alone? Hell nah. I blame plenty of folks for their shitty fanservice. Fate series is just straight up dead to me, for example.

And it's not fanservice, but fuck Disney for similar reasons.

Just let things be good and END. STOP RUINING THINGS FOR MONEY AAAAAAAAAAAAH
 
Alone? Hell nah. I blame plenty of folks for their shitty fanservice. Fate series is just straight up dead to me, for example.

I mean, I personally don't even have that much of a problem with fanservice in and of itself, but so often it's just... so... frickin'... duuuuumb how it's done and I'm just, like, why. Whyyyy. Why would you even, oh my god, Japan, just stop already.

Also, the whole creepy underage character thing and the lack of equal-opportunity fanservice, but those are their own issues above and beyond the rampant dumb-ness.

I think it's less crotchless pants than thigh high socks and someone cutting a chunk out of what was already a micro-mini. Either way, it sure is stupid. You know you're in trouble when 'just a bikini' would somehow look better.

Yeah. It's, like, the quintessential example of dumb design. The platonic ideal of shitty fanservice.

Ugh.
 
It's like if a landsknecht made a mistake when cutting holes in his floofly striped pantaloons and just rolled with it, and also put on a frilly crop top because ???

See, that outfit actually bothers me less because it's consistently goofy in a unified way. It's ridiculous, yes, but it comes across as plausibly and intentionally ridiculous in a way I could sorta see a teenager thinking is a good idea (i.e., like what I was going for with Maiko's outfit).

The other one had clashing design elements and showed very little skin except the inexplicably missing crotch which just makes it seem like a half-assed concept with gratuitous fanservice added as an afterthought.
 
See, that outfit actually bothers me less because it's consistently goofy in a unified way. It's ridiculous, yes, but it comes across as plausibly and intentionally ridiculous in a way I could sorta see a teenager thinking is a good idea (i.e., like what I was going for with Maiko's outfit).

The other one had clashing design elements and showed very little skin except the inexplicably missing crotch which just makes it seem like a half-assed concept with gratuitous fanservice added as an afterthought.
One looks like they had a theme going for it. The other looks like they got hit by a medium bore clothing destruction laser exactly once.
 
Yeah, it would.

Also, what is wrong with Magia Record that we have two characters we can have this debate with?
Gacha game character designs in a nutshell, really. Sometimes you get some awesome standout new characters, sometimes you get your Magica Record Himikas or your FGO Ushiwakamarus. I'll admit it tends to especially skeeve me with something like Magica Record, since aren't all the characters generally around middle school age? For some reason, pantsless 14 year old girls aren't really something I want to be thinking about in my gacha games, can't imagine why.
 
I just read through this about a week a ago and I really enjoyed it. All the characters seem unique and interesting and I haven't had much trouble remembering who's who despite the growing cast. I also like the cool spread of magical girl powers, and the focus on more passive than combat focused powers, which is something I haven't seen in another Pmmm fic. I do have a couple questions:

- Is Chou Gertrude? In the postscript of one of the chapters that had a focus on her/her powers a summary of Gertrude was posted, that, and the similarity of their powers lead me to assume such.

-Is the String Witch hostile towards our cast or neutral/pro Yui? And despite the fact it doesn't matter since Yui could theoretically never get there, would Stringy be hostile towards Yui if she ended up in her barrier and didn't fight her or would it be OK with Yui just chilling due to their friendship in the multiple time lines she's experienced?

-Could I get a link to the Wiki for this fic, and perhaps a discord if one exists? And in case they're not on the wiki I'd want to know where to find the art of the cast I've seen mentioned a few times.

(For the record I read through the story largely by jumping from threadmark to threadmark, and perhaps reading the few posts before or after to see reactions. That's why I need a link to the wiki. )
 
What do you think we should do with Naoko?

Here you can find the imgur links, and these are the pics that aren't in those.

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Passing right through one objective on our way to another? I read this on first glance as "passing through one object on the way to another," which I figure would work because Yui is totally an anime character.
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  • [X] Educational. Let Maiko take the lead, and help her coach the newbies through combat.
    -[X] Emphasize that they work together, either fighting together or tag-teaming and watching each other's back
    [X] Particular guidance:
    -[X] Never fight alone. One person is much more vulnerable to things suddenly going wrong.
    -[X] Help the newbies schedule paired witch hunting
    -[X] Call for backup if the witch is unusually strong. There's nothing to prove.
    [X] Educational. Let Maiko take the lead, and help her coach the newbies through combat.
    [X] Relaxed. Focus more on getting to know these girls than on the Witch hunting.
    [X] Educational. Let Maiko take the lead, and help her coach the newbies through combat.
    -[X] Relaxed. Focus more on getting to know these girls than on the Witch hunting.
 
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...wow, that might be the stupidest outfit I've seen yet.

I'll admit it tends to especially skeeve me with something like Magica Record, since aren't all the characters generally around middle school age? For some reason, pantsless 14 year old girls aren't really something I want to be thinking about in my gacha games, can't imagine why.

From what I recall of looking up info about Magia Record, there seem to be a fair number of high-school-age meguca as well, because that obviously makes it so much better.

...also, the two currently being discussed are 14 and 13, so that's a thing.

I just read through this about a week a ago and I really enjoyed it. All the characters seem unique and interesting and I haven't had much trouble remembering who's who despite the growing cast. I also like the cool spread of magical girl powers, and the focus on more passive than combat focused powers, which is something I haven't seen in another Pmmm fic.

Thanks! I'm especially glad to hear that about the cast size, because I know I've seen people complain about that regarding stories that had significantly fewer major characters than PMIM.

Could I get a link to the Wiki for this fic, and perhaps a discord if one exists? And in case they're not on the wiki I'd want to know where to find the art of the cast I've seen mentioned a few times.

I created a wiki when I gave up on trying to fight with BBCode to put all the info in a single post and then never really got around to updating it so, uh, don't get your hopes up too much? :oops: But here's the link, for what it's worth. And yes, if anyone is wondering I do own that domain. :V

- Is Chou Gertrude? In the postscript of one of the chapters that had a focus on her/her powers a summary of Gertrude was posted, that, and the similarity of their powers lead me to assume such.

Yep. I think that was the first time she'd appeared in an update after people figured that out? Anyway, for the record her name means "butterfly" and also she thinks fake mustaches are the funniest thing ever.

In a more typical timeline where Momoko wasn't killed, when Chou decided to leave Tokyo she would have instead headed west into Kazamino, struggled to deal with the overcrowding there, Witched out at some point over the following couple months, and then wandered off to less populous areas of Mitakihara where there seemed to be fewer magical girls running around.

Is the String Witch hostile towards our cast or neutral/pro Yui? And despite the fact it doesn't matter since Yui could theoretically never get there, would Stringy be hostile towards Yui if she ended up in her barrier and didn't fight her or would it be OK with Yui just chilling due to their friendship in the multiple time lines she's experienced?

The String Witch is primarily anti-status-quo, particularly if it's a status quo that prevents people from reaching their full potential because of factors outside their control. I've posted a bit about Witch psychology in the PMIM setting which I assume you haven't seen because reader mode, but the short version is that Witches are almost always constrained by a monomaniacal focus on whatever is most important to them and see everything through that lens. Yui is making waves and trying to change things so meguca can have better lives and the String Witch thinks that's pretty neat, which would matter a lot more to her Witch monomania than any friendship involving her human self.

That said, something very few magical girls realize is that a large percentage of Witches--probably even a majority--are not actively, intentionally hostile by default and won't seek to harm people inside the barrier. A fair number have hazardous environments in their barriers and/or potentially hostile familiars, but for the most part it's often safe enough for a meguca to chill out inside a barrier as long as she doesn't interfere with the Witch's monomania and avoids fighting familiars.

For example, my interpretation of canon Witches is that Gertrud and Charlotte had hostile familiars but wouldn't initiate a fight as long as you don't step on the flowers/interrupt snacktime, that Oktavia's barrier would be almost completely safe as long as you keep quiet and don't interrupt the concert, that Kirsten was actively hostile to both mundane people and meguca, that Elsa Maria won't attack anyone who stops to pray but that both she and her familiars are on a hair trigger otherwise, and that Gretchen is entirely "benevolent" in that once anyone enters her "heaven" she will--for their own good, of course--prevent them from leaving.

For examples in PMIM, Harriet--the first Witch Yui fought--was like Gertrud and Charlotte, with hostile familiars and casual disregard for mundane people but no intentional malice, while Lorelei--the Witch with the train station that Asami tagged along for--was actively and intentionally malevolent.

At the far end of the "not dangerous" extreme, Maiko has encountered a Witch that actively prevents anyone in her barrier from coming to harm, ejects her visitors and runs away if things get dangerous, and considers meguca who've entered her barrier to be her friends and occasionally goes looking for people she remembers when she gets lonely.
 
Thanks! I'm especially glad to hear that about the cast size, because I know I've seen people complain about that regarding stories that had significantly fewer major characters than PMIM.
It's not really an issue for two reasons - A, as the person mentioned, you're an excellent author, but there's also the fact that a good part of the theme of this quest is about leadership and organization within a rigged system. Meeting dozens of colorful personalities and struggling to remember their names is an actual plot point and issue, which recontextualizes the phenomena.
 
At the far end of the "not dangerous" extreme, Maiko has encountered a Witch that actively prevents anyone in her barrier from coming to harm, ejects her visitors and runs away if things get dangerous, and considers meguca who've entered her barrier to be her friends and occasionally goes looking for people she remembers when she gets lonely.
Isn't that the Make Believe witch, iirc?
 
Isn't that the Make Believe witch, iirc?

Yep! She's both one of the oldest active Witches in the world (comparable to the original core Witch of Walpurgisnacht) and one of the youngest (younger than Nagisa when she contracted, and Witched out within a month). She had a, uh, very fairy-tale-ish childhood, in the "abusive stepfamily that acted like something out of a bad Harry Potter fic" sense, and wished for a world where nobody would ever have to be hurt and everyone could live happily ever after. Her wish magic was the ability to create... witch barriers, basically, which she immediately used and never returned from. She's originally European, but has been wandering around Japan for the past decade or so. (Probably crossed the sea and then forgot how to get back or something.)

One of her stray familiars provided the barrier used for Yui's training session shortly after first meeting Maiko, which means the Witch herself is probably somewhere nearby.
 
Urgh, I wanna say some stuff about Tomo here but her age and family situation are still kinda spoiler-ish. :(

Sort of tempted to ask if any of the KR fans here would be willing to take this to PMs, let me spoil some of Tomo's deets and give advice on whether they think any particular series would appeal to her and/or suggest some references...

I'd be willing to give it a shot, with the caveat that the early Heisei in question aren't the shows I'm the most familiar with.
 
Yep! She's both one of the oldest active Witches in the world (comparable to the original core Witch of Walpurgisnacht) and one of the youngest (younger than Nagisa when she contracted, and Witched out within a month). She had a, uh, very fairy-tale-ish childhood, in the "abusive stepfamily that acted like something out of a bad Harry Potter fic" sense, and wished for a world where nobody would ever have to be hurt and everyone could live happily ever after. Her wish magic was the ability to create... witch barriers, basically, which she immediately used and never returned from. She's originally European, but has been wandering around Japan for the past decade or so. (Probably crossed the sea and then forgot how to get back or something.)

One of her stray familiars provided the barrier used for Yui's training session shortly after first meeting Maiko, which means the Witch herself is probably somewhere nearby.
...do we need to pool together omake bonuses for the power to invite the Make Believe Witch into Yui's Battle Harem, or will there be an in-universe opportunity to recruit our very own Puella Magi SHEILD Helicarrier equivalent?! :V
 
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