UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
This is horrible, have a funny.
Puella Magi Imperatrix Mundi, or: Wherein Half Of Japan Tries To Kill You
- Location
- Here
Something that was bugging me today... As boss meguca of Nagamioka, Yui's going to be accumulating/has already accumulated a bunch of homeless meguca. It would probably be good for their mental health, and consequently their health, loyalty and overall usefulness, if they had stable places to live. That's a problem Yui ought to be able to solve. Thoughts?
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
That would freak the hell out of any girls who know who Momoko was. Also it's not really ours to rent out.
- Location
- The Beach
Uh, who's is it actually? Momoko won't be able to make payments anymore, unless Maiko was named beneficiary. I'd hate to use the house and suddenly have a bank foreclose on it while we were using it or get kicked for squatting :lol
edit: "Uh officer, pay no attention to the body in the basement. She's not actually dead! Well, she kinda is actually but only a little dead!"
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DarkLight140
Credit to Team
- Location
- Lost in my thoughts
Every migrant that we've encountered so far has firmly insisted that they were able to provide for their own housing. From what we've seen, that's even been true- Yumi is apparently living in hotels (?) without issues, Rio/Kiyomi/Fuuka seem to have gotten a house or apartment somewhere somehow, and Chou wouldn't give up the vagrant life if you paid her (note: she would be deeply suspicious if you offered to pay her).
Ultimately, while I agree that it would be better if we could provide stable living arrangements to anyone on our team who doesn't have such, they don't need it and I suspect they don't want it either. It's a big step from agreeing to work for someone to agreeing to let them tell you where to live- because there's an implicit assumption that if your employer gifts you something, they can take it back. Company cars and corporate laptops aren't owned, they're issued, and can be recalled. Pushing others to live in locations we provide is thus demanding that they extend a lot of trust and faith to us, and those are precious resources we have in limited quantities- and what we do have can be better applied to other things.
Really, the best we can do is what we've already done so far- tell people to come to us if they need anything, whether it's magical, social, physical or financial. But if someone doesn't want to admit that they have a problem or would rather solve their problems themselves, we don't generally have the stability or social capital to push the issue outside the most critical cases.
Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
- Location
- "echolocation" dur hur hur
To some extent, yes. However...
...the operating principle here behind using it as a meeting area is "Momoko would want her stuff used to help local meguca", and giving homelessguca a safe and supportive place to live is like 80% of why Momoko even had a full house in the first place, rather than just a bare-bones apartment somewhere downtown. So, letting girls stay there if they actually want to would be totally fine.
That's an excellent question!
Eh, she's just mostly dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead.
Except for Himari and Haruka, who are in fact currently staying in Momoko's house.
Even if you acquire money through questionable means, as long as you acquire enough people can be persuaded to not, in fact, question it.
Definition: Proposition S(x) = "Chou would be deeply suspicious if you did X"
Theorem: ∀x. S(x)
Proof: because Chou, QED
- Location
- Plato's Cave
In my reread of the thread, I came upon the part where Yui notes that Maiko's tome is actually formed around/from her Soul Gem, which means it's basically Maiko in book form.
I immediately started trying to concoct a Cardcaptor Sakura parody of this. So far I've got Yui finding the Sakue Tome and accidentally releasing the....let's say 13 Witch Gems sealed within and now she has to find and re-seal them before any of them gather enough power to bring down a Witches Night, the true darkness sealed in the bottom of the Sakue Tome. Of course, it turns out that to seal them permanently she has to bind her soul into the Tome (the 13 Witches being the previous bearers of the book after Maiko). She rather disapproves of this, and after accidentally purifying one of the 13 Witches, she goes on a quest to purify them all so that all of the tome's guardians can combine their power and purify the Witches Night once and for all.
I don't know why I'm coming up with this idea, especially as I only know a very general overview of Cardcaptor Sakura's plot.
I immediately started trying to concoct a Cardcaptor Sakura parody of this. So far I've got Yui finding the Sakue Tome and accidentally releasing the....let's say 13 Witch Gems sealed within and now she has to find and re-seal them before any of them gather enough power to bring down a Witches Night, the true darkness sealed in the bottom of the Sakue Tome. Of course, it turns out that to seal them permanently she has to bind her soul into the Tome (the 13 Witches being the previous bearers of the book after Maiko). She rather disapproves of this, and after accidentally purifying one of the 13 Witches, she goes on a quest to purify them all so that all of the tome's guardians can combine their power and purify the Witches Night once and for all.
I don't know why I'm coming up with this idea, especially as I only know a very general overview of Cardcaptor Sakura's plot.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Okay, I was re-reading this and trying to note all the dangling long-term plot threads (short-term is our current discussion now that a group from Nerima Ward's electric/metal type pokemon minion team member tried to drive Yui out so their team could expand into her territory). Let me know if I've missed anything.
In no particular order:
A) Someone killed all the town's previous magical girls. They have yet to make a play for the territory. It's possible this was solely revenge motivated and they've gone back home with no plans to return but I wouldn't put all my faith in it.
B) Invisible Jerks keep cutting through Yui's territory to harass neighboring magical girls. We've given them Kaede to help track their attackers but haven't seen that bear fruit yet.
C) Plague-Doctor McNasty is still on ice in Momoko's Clubhouse basement.
D) There's also dangerous killer magical drones deactivated in that basement.
E) Who owns that clubhouse anyway? Is someone going to come sniffing around about the property.
F) Yui's friend Natsuki has the potential to contract but Kyubey thinks she'll get herself killed if she does.
G) Yui is trying to get the prickly Chou willingly working with her.
H) Tomo is mysteriously silent and possibly that elementary school child who has magic that Maiko said she'd track down.
I) The local magical idol singer is still debating whether she'll join the magical idol community or stay local.
J) Shinobu at school needs to learn to talk to people without activating her magic.
K) We have not tracked down all the local recent contractees, including at least one who can make 'magical objects' with kanji.
L) Yui wants to set Maiko and her brother up as a couple.
M) Yui's friend Natsuki is shipping Yui and Asami.
N) Other magical girls may invade at any time, believing the territory to be ripe for the picking with Momoko gone.
O) Pointed out by @PoptartProdigy: "Despite Minami's frankly adorable efforts to keep it a secret, the witchbomb remains a Damocles Sword over our heads."
P) Asami's Magical Potential keeps fluctuating with the reason unknown.
Q) Yumi lost her wish-magic, Yui is curious about that and may want to fix it.
Z) Yui is convinced her life is basically an anime now.
In no particular order:
A) Someone killed all the town's previous magical girls. They have yet to make a play for the territory. It's possible this was solely revenge motivated and they've gone back home with no plans to return but I wouldn't put all my faith in it.
B) Invisible Jerks keep cutting through Yui's territory to harass neighboring magical girls. We've given them Kaede to help track their attackers but haven't seen that bear fruit yet.
C) Plague-Doctor McNasty is still on ice in Momoko's Clubhouse basement.
D) There's also dangerous killer magical drones deactivated in that basement.
E) Who owns that clubhouse anyway? Is someone going to come sniffing around about the property.
F) Yui's friend Natsuki has the potential to contract but Kyubey thinks she'll get herself killed if she does.
G) Yui is trying to get the prickly Chou willingly working with her.
H) Tomo is mysteriously silent and possibly that elementary school child who has magic that Maiko said she'd track down.
I) The local magical idol singer is still debating whether she'll join the magical idol community or stay local.
J) Shinobu at school needs to learn to talk to people without activating her magic.
K) We have not tracked down all the local recent contractees, including at least one who can make 'magical objects' with kanji.
L) Yui wants to set Maiko and her brother up as a couple.
M) Yui's friend Natsuki is shipping Yui and Asami.
N) Other magical girls may invade at any time, believing the territory to be ripe for the picking with Momoko gone.
O) Pointed out by @PoptartProdigy: "Despite Minami's frankly adorable efforts to keep it a secret, the witchbomb remains a Damocles Sword over our heads."
P) Asami's Magical Potential keeps fluctuating with the reason unknown.
Q) Yumi lost her wish-magic, Yui is curious about that and may want to fix it.
Z) Yui is convinced her life is basically an anime now.
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- Location
- Rockford, USA
- Pronouns
- They/Them
O) Despite Minami's frankly adorable efforts to keep it a secret, the witchbomb remains a Damocles Sword over our heads.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Right, I'll edit that in.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
I wonder if that holds true even after her memories have been retroactively altered. I mean, a big reason of why she would not be a good contractee - besides a slightly sub-par potential - was that she was afraid of losing her only friend, which would lead to taking unnecessary risks to help keep her safe. That might have been mitigated.
Didn't she have strong leanings towards the idol route? I seem to have already written her off unless we actively interene to keep her around.
Good summary. I think it might be easier to count the plot threads if we just list characters and try to remember if they have any problems associated with them. For example, Yumi has lost her wish magic. Do we do anything about it? I think there was a vague interest in getting to know the character better, though it is constantly being buried under more critical stuff.
Anything with Koharu? There are no problems per se, but she does occupy a big chunk of territory in our city and is not technically subject to our authority. That might present a problem down the line.
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SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
Yui (and SV) want to get to know all the magical girls better, so I didn't think that was worth putting in. Chou was only worth mentioning because of the amount of effort involved and the potential gains from her abilities.
As for Yumi's wish magic, in character we know nothing. Out of character, I'm pretty sure we have Word of God her wish magic was something about being able to help that friend of hers who betrayed her (and possibly friends in general).
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- Location
- St. Petersburg
Not so out of character. We know she has utility magic, that she can no longer use most of it, and we were present when Naoko taunted her about her friend.
Yui just didn't really stop to put all the pieces together. Same as with Shinobu, now that I think about it. I don't remember all that well, but I believe Yui doesn't really know what is wrong with her either. I don't think we've met her since chapter eight or so, or really talked to her since chapter fifteen.
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- Here
I agree that pushing housing on anyone is a mistake. At the same time, if we restrict ourselves to "come to us if you need anything," meguca won't be as likely to ask for help with housing as if we were to add "and specifically you can live at Momoko's old house if you like; I'm specifically planning to keep it as a safe, supportive home for meguca." I think that offering without pushing specific solutions to specific problems is generally a productive thing to do that our stability and social capital can support or will support in the near future.
As for Chou, I'll be shocked if she's not sleeping in that lot we're involved in paying her to renovate. She'll be building a hobbit hole there shortly, I expect.
It's Momoko's. Maiko said Momoko would have wanted it to be used.
What. *headasplode* Um, that would explain a lot, if true. I thought it was strange that the elementary schooler wasn't higher on Maiko's to-do list. But why wouldn't Maiko just tell Yui? Hmmm...
Other magical girls will be invading more or less constantly for some unspecified period of time.
Thank you for making the list!
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
Maiko is very aware of how intrusive her grimoire searches can be, so she doesn't like to share them without an extremely good reason. Since Tomo is cooperating with us and in no immediate danger, it's a problem that can probably wait until she's willing to open up to us.
- Location
- Here
That's true. I guess the theory, true or not, is consistent with everything we've observed thus far. I did not see that coming at all.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
We had a bit of a discussion about that 8 pages back. Of course, it also had been 5 months...
Maiko herself said as much:
If Tomo wants to keep it a secret, Maiko will keep her secret. It's basic ethics, after all.
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Echo
Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
- Location
- "echolocation" dur hur hur
There's also the issue of Asami's oddly fluctuating potential; IC, that's something you haven't really looked into at all since it first came up.
She's kind of on the fence about it. It's not like staying local would mean giving up her idol career, after all, she'd just have to work harder at self-promotion and such. Recall that Maiko was pretty clear about idolguca not having the best long-term prospects...
As for Chou, I'll be shocked if she's not sleeping in that lot we're involved in paying her to renovate. She'll be building a hobbit hole there shortly, I expect.
More likely a treehouse, honestly.
I don't recall that particular theory coming up before? But it was suggested at least once that it might be her age Tomo is hiding; presumably, in that case, she doesn't talk over brainmail because her mental voice still sounds like a little girl.
Well, Yui on the other hand, leaves no doubt, sound or not.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Chou wouldn't crash anywhere there are no plants to watch over her while she sleeps, what with her paranoia. We'd probably trace her hideout to one of the parks if we pried. Of course, now that she has a whole little kingdom to herself, I'd be surprised too if she didn't stay there.
By the way, do we have an idea if Chou was always so... Chou? The latest betrayal affected her badly, but Kiyomi seemed to imply she was like that even back when they were friends.
By the way, do we have an idea if Chou was always so... Chou? The latest betrayal affected her badly, but Kiyomi seemed to imply she was like that even back when they were friends.
SolipsistSerpent
Endlessly Devouring
It was Momoko's. She is now dead. Admittedly, she died in a Witch's Barrier so people probably don't know that yet, but property does not belong to dead people in perpetuity.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
What's this witchbomb business, now?
Consider the Rio Trio: Yui offered to set them up, and they declined.
A lot of meguca are independent-minded, I think.
EDIT: I know Darklight basically answered this in more detail already, but I've been wanting to use the term 'Rio Trio' for a while now, so...
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UbeOne
Daydreaming CPU
- Location
- Philippines
- Pronouns
- She/Her
"Witches come from magical girls whose gems are filled with grief."