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We got to use it for free because we were the first people to EVER use the service after years of being ignored.
It is definitely not a Guild service.
PMD: Broken Mirrors in The Sky (Pokemon Mystery Dungeon)
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It is definitely not a Guild service.
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Ah okay. Still, 90% is a huge cut.
We might as well be unpaid interns lol
Edit: Also, is it just me or does anyone else sometimes just spends too much time doing missions for ages before continuing the story because I want to find those requests that give Reviver Seeds lol.
Actually, I think I have a hoarding problem come to think of it.
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But seriously, where does all that money go?
Can't be the equipment, least not past a certain point, otherwise we wouldnt see so many independent Rescue Teams around Treasure Town.
Can't be dungeon consumables, or we'd at some point be shown to the 'armory' full of Orbs and Seeds for use on high stakes missions.
Can't be the mission boards, those are also freely available to everyone in decent standing with the Guild.
Can't justifiably be training fees when 99% of our instructions are just 'Take jobs from the board and fuck off'. We ain't learning shit most of the time.
Construction/Maintenance is already handled by Dugtrio and Diglet.
For the few things I can think of that are reasonable:
The larder appears to be directly filled by Guild members being given direct assignments, see the Perfect Apples. But the rest might be bought from local farms/foragers since there seems to be a difference between berries and Berries. We also get a free room to sleep in. (And both of these go out the window when the party moves out to Sharpedo bluff)
And I guess we get access to the Guildmasters protection?
How does any of this justify a 90% cut for the Guild when we do all the actual labor? Where is my damn Rescue Team Union?
Can't be the equipment, least not past a certain point, otherwise we wouldnt see so many independent Rescue Teams around Treasure Town.
Can't be dungeon consumables, or we'd at some point be shown to the 'armory' full of Orbs and Seeds for use on high stakes missions.
Can't be the mission boards, those are also freely available to everyone in decent standing with the Guild.
Can't justifiably be training fees when 99% of our instructions are just 'Take jobs from the board and fuck off'. We ain't learning shit most of the time.
Construction/Maintenance is already handled by Dugtrio and Diglet.
For the few things I can think of that are reasonable:
The larder appears to be directly filled by Guild members being given direct assignments, see the Perfect Apples. But the rest might be bought from local farms/foragers since there seems to be a difference between berries and Berries. We also get a free room to sleep in. (And both of these go out the window when the party moves out to Sharpedo bluff)
And I guess we get access to the Guildmasters protection?
How does any of this justify a 90% cut for the Guild when we do all the actual labor? Where is my damn Rescue Team Union?
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Taxes, clearly.
Not even Pokémon can escape bureaucracy.
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Something I always thought was a thing was you couldn't take missions into dungeons until your team is either a certain rank or employed at a guild.
Rather, low tier teams just sort of do odd jobs around town.
We don't really see any new adventurers other than Bidoof iirc, but he's more experienced than the player at it.
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It's still kinda the same thing as forgetting one and relearning it later. As far as I can tell for the nds games, there isn't something like that, I think.
I'm also borrowing the progression system from somewhere; Thundershock to Thunderbolt to Thunder to Zap Cannon.
It won't readily be something they can learn if it's not in their moveset, but I'm of the belief that if it looks natural for a Pokémon to use a move, then it can learn it.
This way one gets around the relearning part; one generally uses their strongest moves or strats all the time, but if they have to be delicate for some reason, Pikachu can dial back his Thunderbolt to a Thundershock.
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Oh that's actually massive, cause Thunder and Zap Cannon don't exactly have the best accuracy rates.
Though, that brings up the question of 'Will you use Volt Tackle?'
Hell, if Watt gets good enough with it, maybe he can pull off the Final Smash version of it where he gets a whole sphere of electricity.
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See, normally, I'd need to cheat that in, since that's an Egg move and thus MC wouldn't have access to that, but since I'm using the progression system and Pikachu can technically learn Wild Charge? It'll probably be a near endgame or even post game move, but it'll be possible.
You raise a LOT of good points... As mentioned in fic, the QnA, which I directly lifted from the game, talks about the ETF being the one responsible for most explorer gear.
Maybe it's taxes? We know they take dues from the guilds as well.
Although in any case this thing becomes even more heinous once you graduate post-game and you STILL have the 90% cuts. So that means this guild is taking that cash from graduated teams as well; teams who have little to no support from the guild unless they directly ask, like Team Skull joining in on the expedition. Teams that are more like roving mercenaries/adventurers that'll probably be living directly from the proceeds of said missions, especially since they'll be paying for the cost of living as well.
I'm obviously going to address this nonsense in fic at some point; the Federation can come kiss my furry ass; If I save the world, then I don't have to have outrageous taxes.
Another thing that also comes to mind is the graduation where we have to beat the entire apprentice roster as well as Guildmaster and the feathered fucker at once. Is that something EVERY Team has to do? It seems to be either a recent thing, but even if it was, doesn't that mean that at minimum EVERY graduating team is already stronger than Wigglytuff, the Guildmaster?
I know the recruits will swap out as they graduate as well, but unless the Guildmaster isn't running off of Kage Rules, it makes no sense to me.
Might be an omake thing, actually. I'd be down to do it down the line, alongside maybe the Alolan form or even the mythical Gorochu
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Funnily enough, some random ass trainer in Alola can just teach it if the info I'm reading is right, though they also give the Pikachu Z Crystal so they could just have an obsession with Pikachu. No one else performs this feat in any series.
I just think having Volt Tackle as the 'Shonen Trump Card' is cool, and I feel like it could come up during
the future arc which reveals a bunch of the protagonist's history.
Could be that he's holding back for the tests, and not using his full power.
As for the money thing, it kind of makes sense while you're actually in the guild. In addition to supplies and taxes, you're also being provided with free food, housing, and training. Is very stupid that you still only get 10% after graduating though, when you're no longer being provided anything. Maybe the guild taking 10 or 20 percent for missions from their boards might make sense, but not the full 90.
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Regarding this, I'm actually fairly certain that it's a thing unique to the protagonist duo as the test takes place after they conquer Temporal Tower and save the world.
As a result, in a narrative sense, anything less wouldn't be enough to challenge the duo who's courage allowed them to face a (weakened) Primal Dialga.
Especially given the fact that I highly doubt regular graduated teams could be either equal or superior to Wigglytuff, as the most advanced outsider team we meet is Team Skull who all lost to Wigglytuff.
Eight: To live, is to grind
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The first thing we do is take a look at the job list we organized before leaving the guild earlier. They were all for the first Dungeon we ever fought through appropriately-named Beach Cave, and I was ready to explain my brilliant plan to eventually solve our money issues by blitzing through all of them at once, when Flora interrupts me.
"Oh! Sunflora told me about this one; there really isn't an official term for it, but most Pokémon just call it Job Stacking. The stamps on the job papers work with our badges to make sure whatever form of the dungeon we're going into actually links with the job!"
The fuck? I didn't even think of that! How the hell did Pokémon find help in dungeons before this was implemented?
"Er… Okay? Well, the other plan I have for doing this is to work on our training. Remember the whole theory I shared with you about how things get accelerated in the dungeon?" I ask as I look over the three jobs.
"Yeah, I do; since things like our health and hunger are affected, then training works better and faster there as well. I… still don't think it's an entirely good idea; I've never heard anyone using natural dungeons like that… It seems a bit too dangerous, is all." She says, unsure.
Said doubt makes me look up from my detail memorization, and I proceed to reassure my partner by slinging a forearm over her shoulder with a grin.
"That's exactly why we should do it! I thought being an explorer was all about exploring paths Pokémon have never gone down!" I say, grin growing smugger the moment I see her eyes widen at my phrasing.
"Sure! Not time like the present, Watt! What do we have?" She cheers, nearly floundering us both off the hay bed in our room that we were sharing as we planned.
"Alright, hold on." I chuckle, laying out the three papers on the ground in front of us.
Client Lileep
Rescue Lileep: B2F
Reward: Heal Seed
Client Shellder
Rescue Shellder: B4F
Reward: Sky Gummi
Client Geodude
Search for former teammate Kabuto in Beach Cave
Reward: Pink Gummi + ?
"So the Heal Seed cures pretty much anything?" I clarify, because that sounds just like a Full Heal, and I want to be certain that something so probably valuable is being handed out for such a baby-tier mission.
"Yep." Flora confirms, and I move on, shrugging internally; if the near post-scarcity status of this world's healthcare makes things easier for me, then who am I to complain?
"Now that we know what we're doing officially, let's talk about my ideas." I begin, making sure to take one last sweep of the room for eavesdroppers; we're lucky the room is so sparse, and that there aren't any ghosts amongst the other apprentices.
"First off, we're going to keep on tossing Geo at each other until we can do that successfully while fighting some of the weaker ferals…"
"This'll not only help us on our road to gaining Quick Dodger, it'll help us see the limits of Item Catcher, which we both have."
As Flora absolutely crushes a Kabuto against the dungeon wall with a critical Tackle, I take the initiative after deep-frying my Shellos opponent to aim right at the back of her head and throw.
The Pebble arcs over to her, and… She notices it, leaf quirking to the side for a moment! She turns around and-
"Ow!"
-gets a Pebble right in the face. Oops?
"Sorry, Flora! At least you noticed it this time? That's definitely more progress than earlier- Why are you holding a Pebble Flora?"
"It's training, right?" She says sweetly, and I start backing away.
"Flora, it has to be when I don't notice! Flora? Flora!"
*THUNK*
"OWW!"
"Got it; what else will we be doing?" Flora asks, happily munching on a Grass Gummi that the Kecleon had in stock; she didn't beg me for it, but when I saw how her eyes lit up just from seeing the thing, I silenced the screams of our wallet and bought it for her. Since gummies have minor taste differences, I can only imagine how good it tastes for her little tail to be wagging.
…Damnit. Now I wish I got one too…
"I can't really train much until I can get my mobility and evasion options down, but you can start on the very first of our secret weapons…"
"Poison Powder is a great debuff. You can spread it to any enemy a few feet in front of you, but that's it. But hear me out here… what if you had far more range on it? Hell, what if you could tag a wild from across the room and watch them fall before they can even reach you?
Incredible, right? That's what Razor Leaf is for."
"It's… not working!" Flora growls, frustrated and a bit winded after the last failure to pull of the combo move; she managed to get the Poison Powder cloud to stay a bit clumped together by putting more 'oomph' into it, but when she fired off her Razor Leaves the attack tore holes right through the cloud without them ever having a single purple particle land on them.
The other failures were a bit more varied;
-Regular cloud? It dissipates to the point of uselessness before she even gets one leaf off.
-Slower leaves? They get too bogged down by the cloud and either dissolve into some kinda slightly poisonous energy sludge that degrades too fast for me to even get a sample (With what? I dunno, I'd have figured something out, ok?) or at best fall inert to the ground as very flimsy leaves.
-Slower leaves and thicker cloud? Well, the move slightly works; poison coated leaves! For only a few inches out of the cloud, then they always dissolve into the sludge.
Ignoring the fact that my dear peach is technically turning Type Energy/Aura into actual real matter sometimes instead of the nominal temp stuff…
…We can say that there may be some progress in making a variant of Toxic Spikes if this idea for Poison Nettle doesn't work out?
Now what was I doing during all this?
"Unlimited Power!" I cry, yellow electricity arcing from my outstretched paws into the thirteenth Kabuto to face me.
My cheek sacs are throbbing, and I think I'm starting to lose whatever Aura-control nonsense lets Electric types not ground themselves, because every blast of Thundershock now has me fighting to not lose a lot of charge in the air and my feet as the smell of ozone and slightly charred ground around me can attest to.
Is this what nearly running out of PP is like? Thanks, I hate it.
"So, I'm working on the… combo move? Yeah, the combo move. And you're trying to make your Thundershock stronger." Flora asks, doing that cute head tilt thing of hers.
"Yep."
"If we're doing all this training, then when exactly are we going to rescue those poor Pokémon that are lost in the Dungeon?" She finishes, staring at me.
"Uh…"
"We're going to do the 2nd and 4th floor rescues first; the Quick Dodger training will take place while we're finding them and the last rescue, wherever they may be…"
I dispatch the Shellos that was harassing me from afar with repeated uses of that one annoying move, huffing at my reduced output after I fried the last of the fuckers once they got in range. We were taking turns to clear out any ferals in a room, both for training purposes, as well as to pace ourselves.
"Ugh! I hate it when the Shellos use Mud Sport; even if I'm not in the splash zone of the actual physical mud, the muddy feeling still hits me! I feel like I'm covered in rubber…" I groan, futilely dropping to all fours and shaking like a particularly wet dog to try and get the heavy, insulating feeling of the Ground-type move off me.
Stop giggling at me, Flora! I know you're a plant and all, but shouldn't you be a bit more conscious about being covered in mud?
…Wait a sec, that's not Flora's giggle; it's too deep.
I've watched too many horror movies to get jumped like this!
I nearly break my neck while spinning around, a Thundershock ready to punish whatever sick fuck's followed me from my nightmares.
"NOT TODAY, SATAAAaaannn?" Iscream yell manly, both my voice and move tapering off as I see my partner engaging in conversation with a Lileep, who is obviously the one we're meant to rescue; she looks healthy enough, although that doesn't mean much with the way dungeons affect regen.
Something I did must've been really funny, because she sways a bit while obviously trying to hold in a laugh.
…Thank Llama that my cheeks are already red…
"Eheh, sorry about that, Watt. Here, you can do the honors for our first rescue, if you'd like?" Flora sheepishly apologizes, pulling out my badge from where I stuffed it in the bag and offering it to me like a priceless treasure.
I look to Lileep, who despite the amount of cheer she seems to exude, is also slightly drooping; I'm pretty sure she wants out as soon as possible. I also look to Flora, who's nearly vibrating with excitement, and crack a little smile of my own as I hold out the badge to Lileep, who nods.
"Team Legendary Pikachu, rescuing Lileep target." I enunciate clearly, before gently pressing the badge to the dual-type's body, which is soon outlined in a soft golden light.
"Thank you! I'll come by as soon as possible today with your rewards at the guild!" She calls out as she's freaking beam-me-up-scotty'd out of the dungeon.
As Flora gives me that slightly wavery smile that I'm starting to realize comes on when she's doing things she thought she'd never do, I absentmindedly pat her on the back of the head as I turn the badge this way and that.
"So…" I begin.
"Hmm? Yes, Watt?" She sighs out, content.
"I wonder how much it would take for us to use this as an Escape Orb replacement outside Guild Missions? Shit looks swanky as hell, you know?"
"Watt!"
"What?! It's just an idea…" I mutter, kicking at a rock as my burgeoning star trek fantasies are killed in the crib.
Luckily enough, on the very next floor, we find Kabuto running away from two feral Corsola. While Leaf snipes them in the back, I move in with an Oran Berry on hand seeing as our client actually looked a lot more scuffed up than Lileep did; his rocky exoskeleton is covered in scratch marks and he's favoring a side that looks slightly crumpled.
I'm a few paces away from him, and the near-panicked trilobite quickly orients to look right at me after confirming his chasers are down.
"S-Stay back!" He hisses, the beginnings of a Water Gun dribbling from underneath his shell.
While I would want to get on my negotiator skills, I have someone who is vastly more socialized than me to handle this kind of shit; I gently drop the Oran on the ground, and after confirming that all he's doing is some threatening gestures and not something stupid like attempting to attack, I cede ground to Flora, who calmly walks forward, an Apple perfectly balanced on her leaf.
"It's alright; I'm not a wild, I'm an explorer, and I'm here to help." She whispers as she slowly gets closer, close enough for him to actually hit her with a move if he wanted to.
"R-Really?" The Kabuto whispers back, the water pooling underneath him mostly evaporating as he stops channeling the move. Even that much seems to have made him a bit more shaky than before.
"Really. Here, I'm going to split this nice Apple with you; it makes me feel really bad if I don't get to share, so I'm doing that." She explained, before dropping the apple to the ground and closing her eyes to focus. While she did so, her actual leaf began to flatten out and shimmer like a bastardized Leaf Blade, before she delicately lowered her head and cut the offered Apple in near-perfect halves.
"It's really good!" She assured, sitting back and nibbling on her half.
At this point, through the power of calm peaches and food, Kabuto was clearly calming down, so I stop my best statue impression and toss the Oran from earlier at her. As proof that my theory about training was right, she doesn't even break eye contact with the Kabuto while her leaf twitches, jerkily bending her head back to bounce the Oran like a pro.
"So… Would you like an Oran Berry?" She offers when they're both done.
"Yes, thank you."
A minute or so later, he was beamed away, and we set our sights on our training once more.
Even more luckily, the next floor had Shellder, and she was practically thriving, if not a bit famished, so we sent her on her way with an Apple and a wave.
"So… That's the plan. Any questions?" I ask, stretching after I hop off the bed.
"Nope!"
"Then let's get to it."
A.N: Basically, if Ash can make up Counter Shield, a combo so good that Gym Leaders and I think a champion replicated? Then nothing's stopping us from pulling these out. By the endgame, we'll be calling out strats that'll have Dialga wondering if we're speaking a different language. Also, I understand the limitations of the game engine, but I stand by the fact that something called an IQ skill can mostly be trained. Well, except the Terrain Master thing that lets a grass type walk on lava. That shit's straight juju.
Fun Fact; I did a rough day count for the games, and the game surprisingly takes somewhere around 43 days; 133 if you're counting the minor timeskip to post-game. I'll post my version of the canon timeline before Pikachu absolutely fucks it up as an informational soon.
"Oh! Sunflora told me about this one; there really isn't an official term for it, but most Pokémon just call it Job Stacking. The stamps on the job papers work with our badges to make sure whatever form of the dungeon we're going into actually links with the job!"
The fuck? I didn't even think of that! How the hell did Pokémon find help in dungeons before this was implemented?
"Er… Okay? Well, the other plan I have for doing this is to work on our training. Remember the whole theory I shared with you about how things get accelerated in the dungeon?" I ask as I look over the three jobs.
"Yeah, I do; since things like our health and hunger are affected, then training works better and faster there as well. I… still don't think it's an entirely good idea; I've never heard anyone using natural dungeons like that… It seems a bit too dangerous, is all." She says, unsure.
Said doubt makes me look up from my detail memorization, and I proceed to reassure my partner by slinging a forearm over her shoulder with a grin.
"That's exactly why we should do it! I thought being an explorer was all about exploring paths Pokémon have never gone down!" I say, grin growing smugger the moment I see her eyes widen at my phrasing.
"Sure! Not time like the present, Watt! What do we have?" She cheers, nearly floundering us both off the hay bed in our room that we were sharing as we planned.
"Alright, hold on." I chuckle, laying out the three papers on the ground in front of us.
Client Lileep
Rescue Lileep: B2F
Reward: Heal Seed
Client Shellder
Rescue Shellder: B4F
Reward: Sky Gummi
Client Geodude
Search for former teammate Kabuto in Beach Cave
Reward: Pink Gummi + ?
"So the Heal Seed cures pretty much anything?" I clarify, because that sounds just like a Full Heal, and I want to be certain that something so probably valuable is being handed out for such a baby-tier mission.
"Yep." Flora confirms, and I move on, shrugging internally; if the near post-scarcity status of this world's healthcare makes things easier for me, then who am I to complain?
"Now that we know what we're doing officially, let's talk about my ideas." I begin, making sure to take one last sweep of the room for eavesdroppers; we're lucky the room is so sparse, and that there aren't any ghosts amongst the other apprentices.
"First off, we're going to keep on tossing Geo at each other until we can do that successfully while fighting some of the weaker ferals…"
"This'll not only help us on our road to gaining Quick Dodger, it'll help us see the limits of Item Catcher, which we both have."
As Flora absolutely crushes a Kabuto against the dungeon wall with a critical Tackle, I take the initiative after deep-frying my Shellos opponent to aim right at the back of her head and throw.
The Pebble arcs over to her, and… She notices it, leaf quirking to the side for a moment! She turns around and-
"Ow!"
-gets a Pebble right in the face. Oops?
"Sorry, Flora! At least you noticed it this time? That's definitely more progress than earlier- Why are you holding a Pebble Flora?"
"It's training, right?" She says sweetly, and I start backing away.
"Flora, it has to be when I don't notice! Flora? Flora!"
*THUNK*
"OWW!"
"Got it; what else will we be doing?" Flora asks, happily munching on a Grass Gummi that the Kecleon had in stock; she didn't beg me for it, but when I saw how her eyes lit up just from seeing the thing, I silenced the screams of our wallet and bought it for her. Since gummies have minor taste differences, I can only imagine how good it tastes for her little tail to be wagging.
…Damnit. Now I wish I got one too…
"I can't really train much until I can get my mobility and evasion options down, but you can start on the very first of our secret weapons…"
"Poison Powder is a great debuff. You can spread it to any enemy a few feet in front of you, but that's it. But hear me out here… what if you had far more range on it? Hell, what if you could tag a wild from across the room and watch them fall before they can even reach you?
Incredible, right? That's what Razor Leaf is for."
"It's… not working!" Flora growls, frustrated and a bit winded after the last failure to pull of the combo move; she managed to get the Poison Powder cloud to stay a bit clumped together by putting more 'oomph' into it, but when she fired off her Razor Leaves the attack tore holes right through the cloud without them ever having a single purple particle land on them.
The other failures were a bit more varied;
-Regular cloud? It dissipates to the point of uselessness before she even gets one leaf off.
-Slower leaves? They get too bogged down by the cloud and either dissolve into some kinda slightly poisonous energy sludge that degrades too fast for me to even get a sample (With what? I dunno, I'd have figured something out, ok?) or at best fall inert to the ground as very flimsy leaves.
-Slower leaves and thicker cloud? Well, the move slightly works; poison coated leaves! For only a few inches out of the cloud, then they always dissolve into the sludge.
Ignoring the fact that my dear peach is technically turning Type Energy/Aura into actual real matter sometimes instead of the nominal temp stuff…
…We can say that there may be some progress in making a variant of Toxic Spikes if this idea for Poison Nettle doesn't work out?
Now what was I doing during all this?
"Unlimited Power!" I cry, yellow electricity arcing from my outstretched paws into the thirteenth Kabuto to face me.
My cheek sacs are throbbing, and I think I'm starting to lose whatever Aura-control nonsense lets Electric types not ground themselves, because every blast of Thundershock now has me fighting to not lose a lot of charge in the air and my feet as the smell of ozone and slightly charred ground around me can attest to.
Is this what nearly running out of PP is like? Thanks, I hate it.
"So, I'm working on the… combo move? Yeah, the combo move. And you're trying to make your Thundershock stronger." Flora asks, doing that cute head tilt thing of hers.
"Yep."
"If we're doing all this training, then when exactly are we going to rescue those poor Pokémon that are lost in the Dungeon?" She finishes, staring at me.
"Uh…"
"We're going to do the 2nd and 4th floor rescues first; the Quick Dodger training will take place while we're finding them and the last rescue, wherever they may be…"
I dispatch the Shellos that was harassing me from afar with repeated uses of that one annoying move, huffing at my reduced output after I fried the last of the fuckers once they got in range. We were taking turns to clear out any ferals in a room, both for training purposes, as well as to pace ourselves.
"Ugh! I hate it when the Shellos use Mud Sport; even if I'm not in the splash zone of the actual physical mud, the muddy feeling still hits me! I feel like I'm covered in rubber…" I groan, futilely dropping to all fours and shaking like a particularly wet dog to try and get the heavy, insulating feeling of the Ground-type move off me.
Stop giggling at me, Flora! I know you're a plant and all, but shouldn't you be a bit more conscious about being covered in mud?
…Wait a sec, that's not Flora's giggle; it's too deep.
I've watched too many horror movies to get jumped like this!
I nearly break my neck while spinning around, a Thundershock ready to punish whatever sick fuck's followed me from my nightmares.
"NOT TODAY, SATAAAaaannn?" I
Something I did must've been really funny, because she sways a bit while obviously trying to hold in a laugh.
…Thank Llama that my cheeks are already red…
"Eheh, sorry about that, Watt. Here, you can do the honors for our first rescue, if you'd like?" Flora sheepishly apologizes, pulling out my badge from where I stuffed it in the bag and offering it to me like a priceless treasure.
I look to Lileep, who despite the amount of cheer she seems to exude, is also slightly drooping; I'm pretty sure she wants out as soon as possible. I also look to Flora, who's nearly vibrating with excitement, and crack a little smile of my own as I hold out the badge to Lileep, who nods.
"Team Legendary Pikachu, rescuing Lileep target." I enunciate clearly, before gently pressing the badge to the dual-type's body, which is soon outlined in a soft golden light.
"Thank you! I'll come by as soon as possible today with your rewards at the guild!" She calls out as she's freaking beam-me-up-scotty'd out of the dungeon.
As Flora gives me that slightly wavery smile that I'm starting to realize comes on when she's doing things she thought she'd never do, I absentmindedly pat her on the back of the head as I turn the badge this way and that.
"So…" I begin.
"Hmm? Yes, Watt?" She sighs out, content.
"I wonder how much it would take for us to use this as an Escape Orb replacement outside Guild Missions? Shit looks swanky as hell, you know?"
"Watt!"
"What?! It's just an idea…" I mutter, kicking at a rock as my burgeoning star trek fantasies are killed in the crib.
Luckily enough, on the very next floor, we find Kabuto running away from two feral Corsola. While Leaf snipes them in the back, I move in with an Oran Berry on hand seeing as our client actually looked a lot more scuffed up than Lileep did; his rocky exoskeleton is covered in scratch marks and he's favoring a side that looks slightly crumpled.
I'm a few paces away from him, and the near-panicked trilobite quickly orients to look right at me after confirming his chasers are down.
"S-Stay back!" He hisses, the beginnings of a Water Gun dribbling from underneath his shell.
While I would want to get on my negotiator skills, I have someone who is vastly more socialized than me to handle this kind of shit; I gently drop the Oran on the ground, and after confirming that all he's doing is some threatening gestures and not something stupid like attempting to attack, I cede ground to Flora, who calmly walks forward, an Apple perfectly balanced on her leaf.
"It's alright; I'm not a wild, I'm an explorer, and I'm here to help." She whispers as she slowly gets closer, close enough for him to actually hit her with a move if he wanted to.
"R-Really?" The Kabuto whispers back, the water pooling underneath him mostly evaporating as he stops channeling the move. Even that much seems to have made him a bit more shaky than before.
"Really. Here, I'm going to split this nice Apple with you; it makes me feel really bad if I don't get to share, so I'm doing that." She explained, before dropping the apple to the ground and closing her eyes to focus. While she did so, her actual leaf began to flatten out and shimmer like a bastardized Leaf Blade, before she delicately lowered her head and cut the offered Apple in near-perfect halves.
"It's really good!" She assured, sitting back and nibbling on her half.
At this point, through the power of calm peaches and food, Kabuto was clearly calming down, so I stop my best statue impression and toss the Oran from earlier at her. As proof that my theory about training was right, she doesn't even break eye contact with the Kabuto while her leaf twitches, jerkily bending her head back to bounce the Oran like a pro.
"So… Would you like an Oran Berry?" She offers when they're both done.
"Yes, thank you."
A minute or so later, he was beamed away, and we set our sights on our training once more.
Even more luckily, the next floor had Shellder, and she was practically thriving, if not a bit famished, so we sent her on her way with an Apple and a wave.
"So… That's the plan. Any questions?" I ask, stretching after I hop off the bed.
"Nope!"
"Then let's get to it."
A.N: Basically, if Ash can make up Counter Shield, a combo so good that Gym Leaders and I think a champion replicated? Then nothing's stopping us from pulling these out. By the endgame, we'll be calling out strats that'll have Dialga wondering if we're speaking a different language. Also, I understand the limitations of the game engine, but I stand by the fact that something called an IQ skill can mostly be trained. Well, except the Terrain Master thing that lets a grass type walk on lava. That shit's straight juju.
Fun Fact; I did a rough day count for the games, and the game surprisingly takes somewhere around 43 days; 133 if you're counting the minor timeskip to post-game. I'll post my version of the canon timeline before Pikachu absolutely fucks it up as an informational soon.
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I wonder if certain events will either be too late or just happening whenever to occur since I'm assuming these are minimum day playthroughs.
Cause I know for a fact you can just never do the Perfect Apple mission and just grind instead while Chatot just begs.
Edit: Also, it probably says a lot about me that I didn't actually invest that much thought into IQ stuff.
I kinda just only trained level to get what I wanted.
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That doesn't sound safe, considering how it's melting the Razor Leaves.
Honestly, if they could recruit a Pokemon that can learn Gust, it would be a perfect Dual Tech.
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Yep, you've already seen that we missed the second Scream of the game as well as the talks with Drowzee because we wasted a bunch of time at the square.
If you want a hint, then think real hard on the stations of canon, and then think of what Pikachu would do to them, especially things that take multiple days like the expedition and the gears.
Oof. Like Herofox said, it might not be the best idea for her right now. She also loses the head leaf as a Meganium, so unless she's willing to stop at Bayleef, then that's a future time-sink.
Could she do it later? Maybe as some sort of desperation move or something, but not normally, no.
*Frantically writing this down.*
Could be a room-wide poison move in exchange for no damage.
The problem being that I'm not sure if it would also poison your party. Game physics say no, but a confused Pokémon can use moves on partners that wouldn't work otherwise...
Anyway, I'm on Drastic and that has recruitment cheats, so I can basically work with pretty much any Pokémon. I'm aiming on having a MAX of 11, but will be more comfortable in-story with 5 more because of 'trainer' limit.
So, if anyone has any suggestions on what Pokémon they'd like to see as a teammate, then I'll put up a poll later today.
Krazyfan1
Worrying for the future.
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do they have to be ones available in the games themselves?
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I think I'll throw in a Ralts/Kirlia option in. Both can be found in Treeshroud Forest, though apparently recruitment is only enabled for subsequent entries for this area. (Ralts 1F-9F) (Kirlia 10F-20F)
Also, obligatory Starly/Staravia option for Gust, which gets Detect as an Egg Move in the Mainline Games so that could be fun to play with if you want to go that route, but Starly should be a lot earlier than Staravia.
(Starly, Mt. Bristle 1F-9F) (Staravia, Tiny Meadow, 1F-4F)
I'll throw in an Absol option. It's a cool but difficult to recruit due to rarity. Outside of the Cafe or Mission Rewards, they can only be recruited during the Crystal Crossing dungeon, that you can only go through once until after the game's story. (Absol 8F-13F)
Basically, either you get lucky and hatch an Absol from Cafe/Mission Eggs, or you manage to recruit an Absol from your only run of Crystal Crossing.
Ralts can also be hatched from Cafe Eggs, so if you don't get one from Treeshroud you can try there.
Edit: I decided to do some extra research about dungeons and locations for Pokemon Sky and have edited my post accordingly.
I also caught a shiny Buneary recently, so I am obligated to plug in Buneary's location. (Foggy Forest, 6F-11F)
I know Shinies aren't actually in the Mystery Dungeon games, but Celebi is a shiny so they clearly exist.
You could also have a Water-Type use a stream-type move e.g Water Gun or Hydro Pump and have Watt combo it with a lightning attack since Lighting is conducted downstream.
If you want to go really Shonen, an Electro Ball/Energy Ball fusion is really Power of Friendship worthy.
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Clearly, the answer here is to obviously gas the room and run in the opposite direction!
Chikorita would poison powder the air in front of her, and the chosen Gust user blows the powder in the chosen direction.
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Are we limited to Gen4 and below? Or can we go further?
Either way, gotta have a Ghost. I'd say not Duskull since one runs the bank and a Dusclops is one of the main villains, but a Shuppet or Misdreavus would be very nice.
Who're Those Pokemon!
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RULES
- Only Pokemon that are used in EoS.
- Vote for 5 Pokemon only.
- A reason for your picks is optional but encouraged!
E.G.
[] Ledian
Reason: I can't have my damn Kamen Rider grasshopper in this game, so we make do.
[] Scyther
Reason: Scizor is Iron Man to me, and I am determined to make that happen.
- Only Pokemon that are used in EoS.
- Vote for 5 Pokemon only.
- A reason for your picks is optional but encouraged!
E.G.
[] Ledian
Reason: I can't have my damn Kamen Rider grasshopper in this game, so we make do.
[] Scyther
Reason: Scizor is Iron Man to me, and I am determined to make that happen.
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[X] Absol
Reason: It's the Distaster Prediction Pokémon. It's a pokemon I can imagine with some stakes involved.
[X] Buneary
Reason: I caught a Shiny of this pokemon and I love it to death. Plus, I think it would fit the archetype of a Battle Maniac.
[X] Ralts/Kirlia
They're an empath and empaths are cool. Also, I would love to see Watt trying to play around with their Teleport.
[X] Starly/Staravia
Reason: Of the starting birds, Staraptor is easily the one with the best reputation, and Starly is a solid pick with really good availability.
Reason: It's the Distaster Prediction Pokémon. It's a pokemon I can imagine with some stakes involved.
[X] Buneary
Reason: I caught a Shiny of this pokemon and I love it to death. Plus, I think it would fit the archetype of a Battle Maniac.
[X] Ralts/Kirlia
They're an empath and empaths are cool. Also, I would love to see Watt trying to play around with their Teleport.
[X] Starly/Staravia
Reason: Of the starting birds, Staraptor is easily the one with the best reputation, and Starly is a solid pick with really good availability.
Stations of Canon
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Behold! The stations of canon as Watt (and I) remember them!
Day 1: Found. Joined Guild
Day 2: Settling Spoink
Day 3: Dealing with Drowzee
Day 4-5: Free Jobs
Day 6: Gatekeeping
Day 7: Free Jobs
Day 8:Waterfall Expedition
Day 9:Meet Team Skull
Day 10-12: Free Jobs
Day 13: Team Skull joins guild, liberates food stocks
Day 14: Perfect Apple Debacle featuring Team Skull
Day 15: Cheered up by guildmates sharing food, and realization that the expedition is starting soon.
Day 16-18: Free Jobs, announcement of guild expedition taking place tomorrow
Day 19: Expedition start, reach Craggy Coast and make camp.
Day 20: Mt. Horn, reach base camp, find out about Groudon's Heart, find Fogbound Lake.
Team Skull fucks around and finds out with Wigglytuff, Spring Cave, Steam Cave Peak, Fight off a Fake Groudon and meet Uxie to end the expedition.
Day 31: Free Jobs Galore
Day 32: Dusknoir arrives and now lives in Treasure Town
Day 33: Check the market for some Perfect Apples. Realize another Time gear to find.
The Marill brothers apparently lost their float in Amp Cove. Head there bearly get devoured, Dusknoir sweeps in and saves us. Beat Amp cove, find the float and fend off Luxray and his pack. Fail, get bailed put by Dusknoir again, get the float to the boys and then answer a Guild summons.
Learn that yet another gear has been stolen, Grovyle thief I.D., the guild spreads out to find info on gears. Clear the Northern Desert and then head back.
Day 34: Head back to the desert and find the Time Gear and Mesprit. Beat Mesprit, Grovyle shows up to steal the gear, and time slows down.
Dimensional Scream to find Azelf, and we head to Crystal Cave. Find them and Grovyle, get clapped but Dusknoir once again saves the day.
Find out he's from the future. LORE.
A trap is set for Grovyle at Crystal Cave.
Day 35-37: Free Jobs
Day 38: Grovyle caught, Dusknoir kidnaps us and the timeline is officially borked.
Day 1: Found. Joined Guild
Day 2: Settling Spoink
Day 3: Dealing with Drowzee
Day 4-5: Free Jobs
Day 6: Gatekeeping
Day 7: Free Jobs
Day 8:Waterfall Expedition
Day 9:Meet Team Skull
Day 10-12: Free Jobs
Day 13: Team Skull joins guild, liberates food stocks
Day 14: Perfect Apple Debacle featuring Team Skull
Day 15: Cheered up by guildmates sharing food, and realization that the expedition is starting soon.
Day 16-18: Free Jobs, announcement of guild expedition taking place tomorrow
Day 19: Expedition start, reach Craggy Coast and make camp.
Day 20: Mt. Horn, reach base camp, find out about Groudon's Heart, find Fogbound Lake.
Team Skull fucks around and finds out with Wigglytuff, Spring Cave, Steam Cave Peak, Fight off a Fake Groudon and meet Uxie to end the expedition.
Day 31: Free Jobs Galore
Day 32: Dusknoir arrives and now lives in Treasure Town
Day 33: Check the market for some Perfect Apples. Realize another Time gear to find.
The Marill brothers apparently lost their float in Amp Cove. Head there bearly get devoured, Dusknoir sweeps in and saves us. Beat Amp cove, find the float and fend off Luxray and his pack. Fail, get bailed put by Dusknoir again, get the float to the boys and then answer a Guild summons.
Learn that yet another gear has been stolen, Grovyle thief I.D., the guild spreads out to find info on gears. Clear the Northern Desert and then head back.
Day 34: Head back to the desert and find the Time Gear and Mesprit. Beat Mesprit, Grovyle shows up to steal the gear, and time slows down.
Dimensional Scream to find Azelf, and we head to Crystal Cave. Find them and Grovyle, get clapped but Dusknoir once again saves the day.
Find out he's from the future. LORE.
A trap is set for Grovyle at Crystal Cave.
Day 35-37: Free Jobs
Day 38: Grovyle caught, Dusknoir kidnaps us and the timeline is officially borked.
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Ngl, this part always pissed me off since you would think something that important would have more security.
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I mean, that shit's still gonna happen, but the rest of the Perfect Apple Debacle™ will NOT follow canon. FUCK that, we're using Danmachi rules; what happens in the dungeon stays in the dungeon.
It's not like Team Skull is actually useful to the endgame🙃
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Fun fact, the Noxious Gas Combo can literally be beaten by Gust.
It's just a Poison Powder that smells awful.
[x] Absol: Something, something, applications of disaster sense, look, I just like the weird cat goat.
[x] Bronzor/Bronzong: In Explorers, due to Steel still resisting Dark and Ghost, and Pokémon having both their abilities at a time (in this case Levitate and Heatproof), Bronzong has no weaknesses.
[x] Bronzor/Bronzong: In Explorers, due to Steel still resisting Dark and Ghost, and Pokémon having both their abilities at a time (in this case Levitate and Heatproof), Bronzong has no weaknesses.
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