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"Silicon Valley's Bloody Plant Burger Smells, Tastes And Sizzles Like Meat"

Lindsey Hoshaw said:
The Impossible Burger is more than just peas and carrots smashed together: It's the result of some pretty high-tech research.

Brown's team analyzes meat at a molecular level to determine what makes a burger taste, smell and cook the way it does.
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Because Impossible Foods isn't targeting vegetarians; it wants to woo carnivores. Brown thinks meat lovers would opt for veggie patties more often if they had an option that really replicated the burger-eating experience. So he's trying to pin down what accounts for the mouthfeel of beef.
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Lindsey Hoshaw said:
The taste is unreal. When I tried a mini burger slathered in vegan mayo, mashed avocado, caramelized onions and Dijon prepared by San Francisco chef Traci Des Jardin at the company's headquarters in Redwood City, I was floored. The flavor was slightly less potent than meat, but if I didn't already know this burger was made from plants, I wouldn't have guessed it.
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Lindsey Hoshaw said:
Impossible's plant burger is still more expensive to produce than beef patties. But Brown says the goal is to increase production so the "meat" becomes less expensive than ground chuck.
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I wish these people the best of luck; I'd eat something like this if it was as good as they're making it sound and reasonably affordable.
 
I agree. I eat meat because it tastes good, not out of some weird ideological conviction to devour animals for the sake of doing so. Given the ecological/economic inefficiency of meat eating I'd be happy with an alternative that tasted as good.
 
I think we already have a thread about this, or was that just on SB?

A bunch of the extant meat alternatives are quite passable, seitan of course has a multi millennia history of being meat like, but for more brand name stuff I'd recommend quorn and gardien, which makes a very nice faux fried fish.
 
Wish they do this for bread instead. Making stuff for vegetarians isn't as important as cutting down on our carb consumption.
 
Well I wish them luck. I suspect it won't really work until were outright vat growing meat though.
 
I like tempeh. I think it's pretty awesome. However, I don't think it's a replacement for meat.

It's good on its own, but it's not a meat.
 
Revlid said:
Hey, don't call me weird.
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"People who eat animals eat them because of the power status that it gives them. Carnists eat animals even if they hate the taste of them. They eat animals even if there are plant based replicas. Even if you thought not all vegan alternatives matched the same as prepared animal flesh there would surely be a few that you liked and you'd substitute as you please but it's not about taste it's about the feeling of power and status, the feeling that animals are below you and have to stay there"
 
Mutton said:
"People who eat animals eat them because of the power status that it gives them. Carnists eat animals even if they hate the taste of them. They eat animals even if there are plant based replicas. Even if you thought not all vegan alternatives matched the same as prepared animal flesh there would surely be a few that you liked and you'd substitute as you please but it's not about taste it's about the feeling of power and status, the feeling that animals are below you and have to stay there"
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Generally if you quote, you should put the name by whom the quote is under it. However, I don't actually want to know here.:grin:

Anyway, it's provably wrong, at least for me. I went vegetarian once for a while, for ethical reasons, and I stopped because of pure laziness and comfort. I wanted the taste, and a few anonymous animals were not on my mind anymore

You can find a great lot of vegetarian and/or vegan meat replacements. Many/most are shit, but you can find something of equal or superior taste for almost any use of meat. (sausages (Soy), schnitzels (celery), burgers (whatever that stuff was), etc.)It's pure laziness in the face of the effort to search and find a reliable supply of a good replacement for every single dish where meat is used, and unwillingness to take a inferior replacement or restrict my menu otherwise.

I acknowledge it as a moral failing on my part.

I'd love to switch to vat meat.
 
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Yla said:
Generally if you quote, you should put the name by whom the quote is under it. However, I don't actually want to know here.:grin:

Anyway, it's provably wrong, at least for me. I went vegetarian once for a while, for ethical reasons, and I stopped because of pure laziness and comfort. I wanted the taste, and a few anonymous animals were not on my mind anymore

You can find a great lot of vegetarian and/or vegan meat replacements. Many/most are shit, but you can find something of equal or superior taste for almost any use of meat. (sausages (Soy), schnitzels (celery), burgers (whatever that stuff was), etc.)It's pure laziness in the face of the effort to search and find a reliable supply of a good replacement for every single dish where meat is used, and unwillingness to take a inferior replacement or restrict my menu otherwise.

I acknowledge it as a moral failing on my part.

I'd love to switch to vat meat.
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It's copypasta to the best of my knowledge; there's a tumblr where I found it but it was noted that this wasn't the original so for all I know it's from the chans
 
Vindictus said:
... I'm morbidly curious as to how many people chose 'Real'
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What I want to know is why I can't click "neither".

I used to be vegetarian. I am now pesco-vegetarian. Since this has nothing to do with morality, I have no issue with killing animals, but with the fact I find meat disgusting. (In taste.) I actually don't really get the idea that killing cows is somehow morally wrong. Inefficient yes, unethical no.
 
Isaacssv558 said:
What I want to know is why I can't click "neither".

I used to be vegetarian. I am now pesco-vegetarian. Since this has nothing to do with morality, I have no issue with killing animals, but with the fact I find meat disgusting. (In taste.) I actually don't really get the idea that killing cows is somehow morally wrong. Inefficient yes, unethical no.
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Efficiency is the basis of ethics. Incidentally, by browsing internet forums for fun we are each committing evil at a rate of 2 femtohitlers/minute.
 
SkySkimmer said:
Efficiency is the basis of ethics. Incidentally, by browsing internet forums for fun we are each committing evil at a rate of 2 femtohitlers/minute.
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I am skeptical of this statement. I'm fairly sure that, for instance, forced sterilization of the disabled is, and will remain, unethical regardless of efficiency.
 
As someone that tracks their nutritional needs obsessively, I'm not really impressed by the impossible burger and the Beyond Burger. They both have a bit more salt than I'd like in a single patty but can't get everything I suppose but really they don't fill any gap in my diet so it isn't even everything. Between the two I easily get the protein I need and more with or without meat, vitamin C is easy to get, not much fiber in the one that has it, don't need iron but I guess that would be useful for some people, the zinc is a maybe but I wouldn't go out of my way to eat it purely for Zinc.

I think their was another brand listed but I don't care to pick through another site for info. I didn't see a price listed for any of them nor have I ever seen them in stores but I'd imagine based off what I've seen of these kinds of products, it likely isn't that cheap.

Honestly I'd be more impressed if they made realistic fish/crustaceans with similar nutrition/taste and without any worry over mercury or whatever the latest terrible ocean problem is. They might even do it cheaper considering how expensive some seafood is.
 
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Mutton said:
the feeling that animals are below you and have to stay there
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If we don't oppress the cows, one day they'll grow intelligent and rise up to overthrow us true story.

(On a sidenote, the only reason the modern domesticated cow population exists and with such amount of varying breeds is because we consume them. If we stopped consuming bovines, I have very little doubts that the population would shrink heavy and possibly go extinct- though that probably wouldn't be that big of a loss to the world considering they basically are adapted to exist in a domesticated environment and probably wouldn't be able to find an ecological niche anywhere else.

Anyway the point is if we stopped eating cows, they'd go extinct so really, the cows should be thanking me for eating them.)
 
Jemnite said:
Anyway the point is if we stopped eating cows, they'd go extinct so really, the cows should be thanking me for eating them.)
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You have a choice. Either tomorrow aliens hit us with an infertility ray and we go extinct or tomorrow aliens enslave us, keep us in shit conditions, 'milk' us and slaughter us for our meat. I'd choose the former personally.

Besides there will probably be a few cows left in zoos or whatever. We stopped using horses for transportation but little girls still like them so we still keep a few.
 
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