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Pathfinder Campaign: Here, There Be Dragons.

samdamandias said:
This feat, that needs you to be CL 5? I know there's rules for tattoo spellbooks in Complete Arcane for 3.5, but those have you run out of room fast (unless you take levels in Geometeer)
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Huh, didn't know there was a feat for that. I thought I was making something new. Hmm, lemme think about it.

SailorMidgard said:
he said double cost, up to 300 lvls... as of yet , i have oh... ten. and cantrips.
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No, I had said you had 100 pages worth of space on your body, and up to 300 GP to spend on spells, at double the cost of normal spellbook inscription. I'm rethinking that on account of there being an existing feat, which I might prefer you to use. Lemme consider things...
 
There's also a feat that makes one's natural attacks count as silver and good. It's often possible to find thongs like this by googling or searching the SRD.
 
Misrememberd, sorry. Mithril Dragons get everything counting as good and silver and inflict Bleed with their breath weapons.
 
Angle said:
Huh, didn't know there was a feat for that. I thought I was making something new. Hmm, lemme think about it.


No, I had said you had 100 pages worth of space on your body, and up to 300 GP to spend on spells, at double the cost of normal spellbook inscription. I'm rethinking that on account of there being an existing feat, which I might prefer you to use. Lemme consider things...
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okay.my Cl is seven anyways.
Cha incoming in five hours max.
 
DarthThrawn said:
Backstory, bah. Even the oldest of us is at most eight or ten, in dragon years. Anyone with a backstory eventful enough to be worth writing down is a very impressive dragon indeed.
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Mine is a justification for CG, justification for knowing Undercommon, and a couple comments about clothes my character likes. Back-stories don't need to be ridiculously impressive. Even tho we're dragons. Even then.
 
SailorMidgard said:
You actually mean s in..you know you are going to be a kid?
on the other hand..i am one to talk, twenty years old very young dky dragon and already a super sage and arcane caster (For her age)
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Going for a Mist Dragon, which with 4 levels from classes, actually makes it in the 16-25 year old range.

Edit: Also assuming the HD is a mistake, and as a CR3 dragon, it should have 4HD base.
 
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Vadim is five. Five. Thankfully, is dragon, so has a convenient excuse as to how they are already better than most non-dragon hero's.
 
I figured, why put an actual age, and just assumed that Gogarthan is just a very cranky toddler/kid.
 
SailorMidgard said:
okay.my Cl is seven anyways.
Cha incoming in five hours max.
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Whoops, revision: If you have a spontaneous casting class and racial spontaneous casting, you can add your spell slots and your spells known together, but this doesn't give you higher caster level or higher level spell slots & spells known. It does give you a bit of extra flexibility, however.
 
Angle said:
Whoops, revision: If you have a spontaneous casting class and racial spontaneous casting, you can add your spell slots and your spells known together, but this doesn't give you higher caster level or higher level spell slots & spells known. It does give you a bit of extra flexibility, however.
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Awwwwww.

Anyway, that's not even what's going on with Midgard's Caster Level. Granted, I'm not sure what is going on for it to be that high, but it's certainly not stacking dragon and arcanist casting together because Sky dragons don't get their first CL until they're two hit dice beyond where he should be.

Might I suggest an alternate ruling of "spellcasting stacks in full, but only to a maximum CL of your total Hit Dice?"
 
Angle said:
If you have a spontaneous casting class and racial spontaneous casting, you can add your spell slots and your spells known together, but this doesn't give you higher caster level or higher level spell slots & spells known
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That's downright weird. Like if you take two spontaneous casting classes you normally have to keep track of everything separately, because the classes have different spell lists, and you can't spend a Skald spell slot for a Sorcerer spell.

I think there was a feat in Complete Arcane (which is 3.5 rather than 3.75 Pathfinder) that let you boost your caster level, but you had to have a lower caster level than hit dice, and could only boost caster level by four or up to your total HD, whichever was less.
 
Angle said:
Whoops, revision: If you have a spontaneous casting class and racial spontaneous casting, you can add your spell slots and your spells known together, but this doesn't give you higher caster level or higher level spell slots & spells known. It does give you a bit of extra flexibility, however.
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I'm now imagining a Great Wrym 20th level sorcerer. That's one thing you don't want to be facing in... well any situation.
samdamandias said:
That's downright weird. Like if you take two spontaneous casting classes you normally have to keep track of everything separately, because the classes have different spell lists, and you can't spend a Skald spell slot for a Sorcerer spell.

I think there was a feat in Complete Arcane (which is 3.5 rather than 3.75 Pathfinder) that let you boost your caster level, but you had to have a lower caster level than hit dice, and could only boost caster level by four or up to your total HD, whichever was less.
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I think its because being a dragon gives you effective sorcerer levels, so mixing two sorcerer levels together makes sense, doesn't it.
 
Estro said:
I think its because being a dragon gives you effective sorcerer levels, so mixing two sorcerer levels together makes sense, doesn't it.
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That does, but say somebody took levels in a Cha-based spontaneous divine caster (Which I know exists somewhere). Then the stacking makes even less sense, because they're mixing divine and arcane spell slots and even Mystic Theruge doesn't let you do that.
 
samdamandias said:
That does, but say somebody took levels in a Cha-based spontaneous divine caster (Which I know exists somewhere). Then the stacking makes even less sense, because they're mixing divine and arcane spell slots and even Mystic Theruge doesn't let you do that.
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Silver dragons are allowed spontaneous divine and arcane casting. Don't know about other types.
 
Estro said:
I think its because being a dragon gives you effective sorcerer levels, so mixing two sorcerer levels together makes sense, doesn't it.
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If it were literal Sorcerer levels, the casting would stack without question.
samdamandias said:
That does, but say somebody took levels in a Cha-based spontaneous divine caster (Which I know exists somewhere). Then the stacking makes even less sense, because they're mixing divine and arcane spell slots and even Mystic Theruge doesn't let you do that.
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Favored Soul, I think, does Charisma, and Rainbow Servant kiiiiiinda (but not really) lets you do the divine/arcane thing.

I think Alternative Source Spell (from Dragon, as so many things are) can do it, in that it lets you prepare Arcane spell slots as Divine spells, and vice versa, with a -1 CL penalty, and has both Arcane and Divine spellcasting as a prerequisite.
Estro said:
Silver dragons are allowed spontaneous divine and arcane casting. Don't know about other types.
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And... also that, I guess. Silver and Gold both, as I recall, get access to Cleric spell lists (but they still cast them as Arcane, as I recall).
 
Yeah, okay, you can mix a spontaneous arcane caster with your innate dragon casting (Again, adding spells known and spell slots, not caster level or higher level spell slots/spells known), though you should ask me about it if one of them draws from a list other than sorcerer/wizard. And no spell slots/spells known progression above your hit dice ever, that's just too much.
 
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