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I believe that there was an enclosed version. Or if not we can put a roof on one.
If not there's the 17pdr SP Achilles.
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Panzer Vor! (Girls Und Panzer Quest)
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I believe that there was an enclosed version. Or if not we can put a roof on one.
If not there's the 17pdr SP Achilles.
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We are the common wealth school after all!!
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Has the Cruiser Mark VIII Challenger been mentioned yet? I want one.
Trent01
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Working on it, after I try and parse some Scottish and Irish names. Because we are not going into battle without at least one tartan plaid warpainted Scottish tank on our side.
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DannyboyZero
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As long as there is that red headed Irish girl I'll be happy.
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Nice. But we lost the Centurion. We need to get that back somehow. Be it begging, borrowing or stealing. Also, I wonder if we can get an Archer Tank Destroyer?
Sadly, as far as I can tell the Archer is open topped. It's a problem with the SPDs in general, though admittedly it does look easier to roof that one compared to most SPDs. The Bishop is more of a 'definitely legal' option, but honestly I still want to see an Archer anyway just because of its novelty value...
Screw it. GM fiat; you can roof the Archer and make it Tankery Legal. It's a little OP against early war opposition though.
In the interests of Commonwealthing it, I'll allow Schofields and Sentinels as starting tanks even though they're post 1940 (
Rhino Armoured Car (Australia) - QF 2pdr
Sentinel Tank (Australia) - QF 2pdr
Ram Tank - Canada. I was originally going to rule this one out but the Mk. I variant (early prototype) would be viable. As with basically everything it's a QF 2pdr :'D
Dingo / Lynx Scout Car (Australia / Canada) - of note, these can have anti-tank rifles instead of machine guns (otherwise I wouldn't have bothered listing it)
Marmon-Herrington Armoured Car (South Africa) - QF 2pdr
Schofield Tank (New Zealand) - QF 2pdr
There was an Indian one as well but it was MGs only and open topped.
Current confirmed lineup is
Victoria's Mk. IV Cruiser
TOG1
Your other options are things like Matildas, Mediums, Covenanters (Scotland!), Valentines and other earlier Cruiser variants, along with the Tetrarch.
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DannyboyZero
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So no Bren carriers then ?
How many tanks can we have for the starting line up ?
How many tanks can we have for the starting line up ?
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YAY! ARCHERS! Thank you!
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So no Bren carriers then ?
How many tanks can we have for the starting line up ?
Hmm... lets call it six total for now in terms of mainline tanks (so four open slots). Plus one or two options for the Tankathlon (ie 'under 10 tonnes').
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@Guessmyname
There were roofed Archers anyway apparently.
"Early versions of the vehicle did not have a roof to the superstructure, but this was rectified later during production when a steel roof was added."
From link
There were roofed Archers anyway apparently.
"Early versions of the vehicle did not have a roof to the superstructure, but this was rectified later during production when a steel roof was added."
From link
DannyboyZero
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Two more Cruisers to back up our current Crusier and two Matildas to back up the TOG1 ? So we have a cavalry team and a heavy team ?
Nervos Belli
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We should get a Matilda crewed by members of the dance team, just for the Waltzing Matilda jokes.
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Welp, that conveniently solves that problem.
That would be the default, yes. Sentinels and Ram Mk. Is have the advantage of saner armour/speed balances though which could give the Cavalry arm better protection or the Infantry arm better mobility.
Your main problem tactically speaking is forcing the enemy to engage your heavies. Early-war Brit. tanks by their stats are good on the defensive (dat Infantry Tank armour) but their offensive units - the Lights and Cavalry suffer for lack of protection. There's also hilariously little variety in guns; basically everything has the QF 2pdr. And I do mean everything.
It's not a bad starting cannon against early-war armour (Penetration 4), but it does mean you're pretty fucked if there's anything that can beat it around. If that happens literally your only options are Close Support Cruisers/Covenanters with 3.7inch howitzers (Pn. 5) or the 75mm howitzer (Pn. 8) on the front of the TOG. Which is going to be difficult to utilise tactically because it's mounted on the front of the TOG.
I'd particularly advise taking a Valentine, because it can be upgraded to use a 6pdr (as can a Ram) or converted into an Archer or Bishop.
You. I like you.
/adds Matilda to confirmed lineup just for this.
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KleverKil'Vanya
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I want a stug . . .
DannyboyZero
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Bows before man of tank knowledge.
A Valentine instead of Cruiser or Matilda ?
And a Lacrosse team crewing one of the tanks would be pretty funny.
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Produced in 1941 though, so it's short the cut for the starting lineup, and upgunning the tanks you have is going to be cheaper than acquiring new ones from scratch. Plus I'd been hoping to avoid Lend-Lease American tanks, since you have a pretty big 'local' (can you call it local when it's the entire Commonwealth?) spread.
Upgunning from 2pdr isn't terribly hard from the Brit. perspective (just converting Victoria's Mk. IV to a Crusader can give you a 6pdr, and the Valentine has a number of up-gunned later variants even without going the SPG route) and I'm not going to throw you against stuff it can't handle straight off the bat because that would be mean.
Late-war unfortunately, so you won't see it for a while (wikipedia doesn't list dates annoyingly, but it's built off the Cromwell which is 1944).
So current lineup standing is:
Mk. IV Cruiser
TOG 1
Matilda II
Mk. I Valentine
So, 2 more slots free, plus the options of light tanks / armoured cars for the Tankathlon. You're pretty set for heavies (TOG1, Matilda, Valentine); another Infantry tank or expand your Cavalry arm?
(please pick from the Commonwealth vehicles they're really interesting
)I-In other news, I just spotted this under the 'Valentine variants' on wikipedia:
So if you're ever feeling particularly YOLO...
(I'd have to look up how that went and I'd assume it was a complete failure but just the image of it...)
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I want a stug . . .
I know, I know. Sadly, only the Germans really went wild with the forward-fixed TDs.
On the plus side, you do get access to the Archer, which fires backwards.
That 'Cruiser' as in the Cruiser Tank line or 'Cruiser' as in the tactical role? (this is why I've been calling them Cavalry tanks...)
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The Archer. Mmmmm. 17pdr.
Backwards.
Backwards.
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Wasn't there a variant of that with a 25pdr? And another with a 17pdr?
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The list of valid Commonwealth starters is a few posts up (I decided to fudge it a bit with the dates on the Commonwealth tanks, given it's a Commonwealth school). The Sentinel is valid along with the earliest Ram model and an interesting assortment of armoured cars.