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Pacific Rim (not that one) (Mage the Ascension homebrew) (recruiting)

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    notanautomaton

    I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
    Alright, this is my thread for Pacific Rim, a chronicle inspired by spy media and current events related to North Korea. The premise is that you're a Chantry focused on espionage in the Pacific and Pacific Rim region. By default you'll be playing Traditionalists, but if you want you can submit a Technocrat character as well and attempt to sway me to run a Technocrat game. Currently you only need to submit a character concept and backstory, actual chargen will occur once I've cleaned up the rules and selected characters.

    The system will be my own homebrew for oMage. I'm going to be cleaning it up once I get a chance.

    The backstory for the game so far is that North Korea's been acting up, and they fear that they'll be invaded by the Technocracy soon. Will you aid North Korea, the Traditions, or the Technocrats? Or will you fuck off, go shadowrunning, and sell info to the highest bidder?

    By default we'll be meeting on Fridays at 6 pm, EST, on Rolz and Discord. I'm open to changing anything in the preceeding sentence though.
     
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    • By virtue of having been on a Panopticon Quest binge and an Evangelion binge, I might make a ridiculously vulgar ex-Technocratic mech pilot; awakened in a sort of Rebuild!Shinji-against-Zeruel scenario with a paradigm based on "THIS IS MY ABSOLUTE TERRITORY, HERE MY WORD IS LAW" and "BESTEST MECH PILOT TO EVER MECH PILOT A PILOTABLE MECH".

    (presumably it'd not be an actual Eva-scale mech)

    (the fact that it's a time I can manage helps too)
     
    ManusDomine said:
    By virtue of having been on a Panopticon Quest binge and an Evangelion binge, I might make a ridiculously vulgar ex-Technocratic mech pilot; awakened in a sort of Rebuild!Shinji-against-Zeruel scenario with a paradigm based on "THIS IS MY ABSOLUTE TERRITORY, HERE MY WORD IS LAW" and "BESTEST MECH PILOT TO EVER MECH PILOT A PILOTABLE MECH".
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    I'm assuming Etherites, given that they're the ones who take most of the Technocratic defectors, and actually have enough giant robots to pilot (though annoyingly, they always have more pilots than giant robots. Low energy! Sad!). Not sure which Convention. Iterators would be the obvious choice, but Progenitors would work for the bio-robot bits, and Void Engineers have the 'fight aliens who are actually humans (or something) and also freaky physics.'
     
    If this is Homebrew, can I be a fallen god with the power level of mages?
     
    notanautomaton said:
    I'm assuming Etherites, given that they're the ones who take most of the Technocratic defectors, and actually have enough giant robots to pilot (though annoyingly, they always have more pilots than giant robots. Low energy! Sad!). Not sure which Convention. Iterators would be the obvious choice, but Progenitors would work for the bio-robot bits, and Void Engineers have the 'fight aliens who are actually humans (or something) and also freaky physics.'
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    I'm going towards assuming Void Engineer right now, though a Progenitor on lease to the Void Engineers is also possible. Her current mech is probably something Etherite, made as a replacement while her actual mech is still with the Void Engineers (so it's a Unique Focus, but she doesn't start the game with it and would have to actually retrieve it).

    (uhm, and not die from paradox when using it)

    Other concepts basically involve playing variations on apprentices to one of the two quest characters I am responsible for making. :V
     
    Janus said:
    If this is Homebrew, can I be a fallen god with the power level of mages?
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    To be slightly more helpful; I'll note that if you want to take real life inspiration, you could go for Gnosticism and know, as a matter of fact that your physical body is made to trap your soul of light in a garment of false flesh; and you have learned to transcend that body. So you can use Correspondence to become multitudes and infinite as you transcend the lie of creation, Entropy to demonstrate the frailty of the demiurge's work and make it fall apart with your mere gestures, Forces, Life and Matter to surpass the demiurge step by step in his dominion over flesh and matter, Mind to use the lie to your own purposes, Prime to truly create from nothing in a demonstration of your inner godhood, Spirit is mostly useless to you except if you want to make miracles of resurrection (though that's a big no-no in Gnosticism, since you're forcing them into the lie again) and Time is also a demonstration of your supremacy of the demiurge.

    I'd recommend you to read Hymn of The Pearl for inspiration.
     
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    Hmm. This certainly interests me, although I can't run discord.

    I'd love to play a Synic if we can persuade you to the Technocratic side (yeah, I know you've got nothing against them) but I've got an idea or to for a traditions half written up somewhere.
     
    Estro said:
    Hmm. This certainly interests me, although I can't run discord.
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    Discord or Skype or Roll20 or just Rolz is possibly the easiest thing to change.
    Estro said:
    I'd love to play a Synic if we can persuade you to the Technocratic side (yeah, I know you've got nothing against them) but I've got an idea or to for a traditions half written up somewhere.
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    You can always go 'Etherite Shadow Ministry economist' if you like the funky hyper-economics, (if you need a rocket launcher, the laws of supply and demand means that you can buy it, even if you're currently infiltrating an enemy base), and if you like the 'big business' part of them I've written up a Hermetic House that does that kind of thing, which you can probably find in the WoD thread. If you want I can give you a link.
     
    notanautomaton said:
    You can always go 'Etherite Shadow Ministry economist' if you like the funky hyper-economics, (if you need a rocket launcher, the laws of supply and demand means that you can buy it, even if you're currently infiltrating an enemy base), and if you like the 'big business' part of them I've written up a Hermetic House that does that kind of thing, which you can probably find in the WoD thread. If you want I can give you a link
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    I do like the funky hypereconomics part more than big business (although hypereffective bribes are great), I'm just not sure how to do an Etherite paradigm for Econ without just being a Syndicate.

    I mean, I could use hilariously out of date Economics, but the problem there is that you lose half the fun because all the macroeconomic tools vanish.

    Also, is it just me, or does the homebrew seem to defult to the assumption your playing Technocracy?
     
    Estro said:
    I do like the funky hypereconomics part more than big business (although hypereffective bribes are great), I'm just not sure how to do an Etherite paradigm for Econ without just being a Syndicate.

    I mean, I could use hilariously out of date Economics, but the problem there is that you lose half the fun because all the macroeconomic tools vanish.
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    Well, the thing is that the Syndicate's applied hyper-economics is considered to basically be reality deviancy by its rivals in the Technocracy, and the only reason that it hasn't been outlawed is the threat of Technocracy civil war. So you don't really need to change anything for the gonzo Etherite bit. Also, the Etherites have a large community of Technocratic defectors, since they're the closest thing to the Technocracy and the most accepting of alternate scientific viewpoints, even when those viewpoints are mainstream science.
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    Also, is it just me, or does the homebrew seem to defult to the assumption your playing Technocracy?
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    Yeah, some of the stuff I 'borrowed' from Linkhyrule5 was from a Technocracy game, so it has that. It's meant to be equally playable for both factions though.
     
    notanautomaton said:
    the thing is that the Syndicate's applied hyper-economics is considered to basically be reality deviancy by its rivals in the Technocracy, and the only reason that it hasn't been outlawed is the threat of Technocracy civil war.
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    I've read both Iteration X and the Syndicate revised books (admittedly, the latter will be biased), and neither of those consider it to be reality deviancy, IIRC.

    Also, if you aren't a syndic you can't do half the fun stuff with hyperecon, as it relies on you having organisations behind you. Financial and banking ones.

    (permanently reducing resources is a fun use of PU)
     
    Estro said:
    I've read both Iteration X and the Syndicate revised books (admittedly, the latter will be biased), and neither of those consider it to be reality deviancy, IIRC.
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    That's because applied hyper-econ is a @MJ12 Commando creation based on like two lines in the Syndicate revised book, which was written like a decade after the Iteration X book. Normal hyper-econ is completely allowed in the Technocracy.
    Estro said:
    Also, if you aren't a syndic you can't do half the fun stuff with hyperecon, as it relies on you having organisations behind you. Financial and banking ones.
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    The Shadow Ministry is an organization, and is one of the more functional ones after the Avatar Storm. Take a Virtual Adept friend to hack, and you're golden.
     
    Okay, yeah, i have no desire to read all of that just to find out.

    On the flip side, if I cannot find applied hyper-econ, I cannot use it.
     
    Estro said:
    On the flip side, if I cannot find applied hyper-econ, I cannot use it.
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    Okay, so there's two types of hyper-econ. You have normal hyper-econ, which is economics taken to its logical conclusion. With it you can do things like drain people's bank accounts, bribe them, inject money into areas in order to improve them, and things like that. You can get money from someone by selling their internal organs.

    Applied hyper-econ is different. It's economics taken to its illogical conclusion. For instance, the law of supply and demand means that you can buy a rocket launcher, despite the lack of a seller anywhere near you, the rocket launcher appearing in your hands. If you own people's debts, you can transmit your wounds to them as repayment. Destroy a wall in a flash of light using math, so long as the substance used to make it is inexpensive. You can sell someone to 'the free market' and have them disappear in a flash of light.
     
    ... It is completely ridiculous. Utterly ludicrous. I know lectures that would have strokes upon seeing it.

    I'll take it.

    TECHNICALLY SONS OF ETHER HYPERECON GO!

    (Also means I can use the shitty outdated econ and no-one can complain).

    Of course, I imagine all that is vulgar as heck. Who cares! Wob wob wob wob!
     
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