Nanoha spinoff - ViVid Strike!

Why not, it's not like it hasn't happened before in Nanoha.
OK, yes, it kinda happened with Nanoha herself. And possibly Hayate. Except I got the impression those two moreso moved there post-secondary due to wanting to work in the magic fields instead of somewhere on Earth.
Guns are tightly regulated according to this magic dictionary entry to the point that it's practically impossible for civilians to get them but that private security companies usually have them and that smuggling is a thing so the guy could have gotten it that way. Or it could be a device since gunshaped devices exist.
Huh, interesting. I was under the impression mass-based weapons weren't used at all in Administrated worlds, barring the ones used by criminals such as Scaglietti.
 
Huh, interesting. I was under the impression mass-based weapons weren't used at all in Administrated worlds, barring the ones used by criminals such as Scaglietti.
Teana's partner in SSX has an actual revolver. She mentioned that she had to jump through a lot of hoops and regulation to get it approved officially. There was a line in Force which mention that mass based weapon are subjected to very stringent regulation even when powered by magic.
 
OK, yes, it kinda happened with Nanoha herself. And possibly Hayate. Except I got the impression those two moreso moved there post-secondary due to wanting to work in the magic fields instead of somewhere on Earth.
They did. There's some implication that Hayate was given a somewhat limited set of choices in the matter though.
 
Well, the Cloud Knights were on probation with the TSAB, and Hayate chose to go along.

Wasn't it more that Hayate deliberately took the charges onto herself because if the Wolkies were considered the controlled minions of a largely clueless 9-year-old everybody would get off with probation and community service, while if she'd claimed no knowledge Hayate would have been off more or less scot-free (like Nanoha, basically) while the Wolkies, as independent, adult entities who knew that they were attacking people and draining linker cores, would have been treated as true criminals?
 
That has never actually been stated outright in canon. But I consider it consistent with how Hayate is also regarded as a criminal (by some) along with the knights.
 
That has never actually been stated outright in canon. But I consider it consistent with how Hayate is also regarded as a criminal (by some) along with the knights.
Somewhat. I imagine the legal fiction was that it was all Reinforce I/Defense Program's fault(and she was executed by agents of the TSAB). Hayate was the administrator, but an ignorant minor at the time, so she got excused, and the Knights put on probation for cooperation much like Fate did against Precia.

But people probably didn't entirely believe that she was innocent.
 
I stopped watching Nanoha at As.
Never really picked up after that, except read a few of the beggining chapters for ViVid.

But still, this seems like fun. Waiting with great anticipation.
 
:oAnother Seibahface!?
And this time from a completely seperate franchise....

OH. MAI. GLOB.

They're multiplying like a plague.
Run.
She actually predates the vast majority of seibahfaces, and is a less exact one like Okita.

She's got a similar build and backstory (which also shares elements with Joan of Arc), is blonde, and has a Barrier Jacket that somewhat resembles Saber's armor, but her face is different and she's got heterochromia (which apparently was a standard trait among all Belkan royalty.

Considering that StrikerS also introduced a major character who extremely blatantly looks identical to a loli version of Rider Medusa, and that there's been two different non-canon oneshot crossover mangas between the franchises over the years (Vivid and Prisma Illya are published in the same magazine), it's certainly intentional.
 
Olivie doesn't look like Vivios adult form.
This does lead into questions considering Vivio's a clone of Olivia, and all. Why the difference in build when they mature into adults? Diet differences, perhaps, or the fact Vivio wasn't living in a warzone for much/all of her life? Imperfections in the cloning making it so while memories and biological checks for machinery got passed on, a few genes were tweaked so she's different to Olivia physically? I'm utterly mistaken about how cloning works and it doesn't tend to make a 1:1 copy of someone physically despite what media portrays?
 
This does lead into questions considering Vivio's a clone of Olivia, and all. Why the difference in build when they mature into adults? Diet differences, perhaps, or the fact Vivio wasn't living in a warzone for much/all of her life? Imperfections in the cloning making it so while memories and biological checks for machinery got passed on, a few genes were tweaked so she's different to Olivia physically? I'm utterly mistaken about how cloning works and it doesn't tend to make a 1:1 copy of someone physically despite what media portrays?
Maybe Vivio's adult form is what Olivie would have looked like if she didn't die so young. Do we actually know how old she's supposed to be when she's transformed?
 
Maybe Vivio's adult form is what Olivie would have looked like if she didn't die so young. Do we actually know how old she's supposed to be when she's transformed?
Nope, beyond 'adult'. Personal guess is either late teens of 18-19 or early twenties of 20-22, going by appearance. She's tall enough it seems like it'd fit, and while anime tends to like exaggerating bust I think~ it's plausible woman can be that developed in their twenties without being major outliers. Didn't seem massively more endowed than Nanoha, Fate or the other adult mage woman we saw, anyway.
 
The adult mode is just transformation magic Vivio could have tuned it to look however she wanted it's not indicative of what she would actually look like once she grows up.
So the important part is being an adult for the magic, and not actually the appearance? Still makes me question why Einhard didn't use a custom appearance when she went about in adult form challenging people to fights in dark alleyway, so it could be customizing the appearance code is hard. Or little 10 yr old kids can't figure out the math for it, which...seems more believable until one factors in Nanoha, Fate, Yuuno and Hayate's canonical feats at that age. Not to mention Chrono's 'I am a skilled Enforcer at 10' feat.

Admittedly, they're probably all genius at one thing or another, but the point stands.
 
That's supposed to be grown-up Olivie? Wow, I've gone all these years thinking she was still a kid in those flashbacks! Like, twelve or something.
Noting that Olivie was born a cripple and goes through a daily routine of relatively poor nutrition(compared to modern day) and intensive exertion. However, DNA cloning of Olivie was not quite the point here(spoilers for the ViVid manga):
The Cradle was a losttech supersoldier factory in the Olivie's era, as it takes in babies and implants some kind of core into them(hence the name, it's literally a baby upgrade machine), which also makes them qualified as administrators/pilot/power source for the giant battleship. Olivie however, was born inheriting the core from her mother, something which doesn't normally happen, and gave her a very very high affinity for administrating the Cradle.

The key element then is that Olivie had a heritable access to the Cradle, while all other core bearers died out in the meantime. Thus for Jail's purposes, Vivio only needed to be similar enough to Olivie to inherit the control core from the relic. In fact, some changes are preferred, since Olivie's lack of arms pointed to some incompatibilities, and tweaking for full compatibility would be better.

TLDR: The Cradle is a magitech Space Marine factory with the controls locked to some specific Space Marine. It's waiting for someone to match the Original so they can unlock the Exterminatus mode.
 
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