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Older-than-Time

[Eating My Muse]
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Somewhere in the Sol System
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He/Him/ThatIdiot
This is the continuation of the winning votes from my Motherhood Snippet thread.

This story features the tales of three immortal woman, who by a turn of fate, all come to raise three specific Primarchs.

They are:

Lion El'Jonson, now known as Crown Prince Mordred

Sanguinius, now known as Gabriel of Baal Secundus

Magnus the Red, now known as Solaire of Prospero

The Lost Second Primarch is known as Ignatus Ennyn. The Second Legion are the Heirs of Fire.

The Lost Eleventh Primarch is, by reader vote, an unknown Blank [FEMALE] Primarch. The Eleventh Legion has yet to be renamed. named Illyria Remalia, blood daughter of the lost eleventh Primarch, Remus Remalia. The Eleventh Legion is now known as the Darkmoon Blades.

This will be a work-in-progress and I will often leave tidbits and out-of-story clues and information in non-indexed posts. Such info will be indexed in the Sidestory, Media and Informational Indexes.

From here on out, let's enjoy the story of these three-ish immortals. Feel free to ask questions, offer suggestions and hope that the Heresy is just a fevered dream of mad prophets.
 
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I'm never said it was a burden for the one spoiling the kids.

I quite enjoy buying needless and pointless knickknack-type items for my niece. Already she has a few toyboxes worth of stuff and she's only 5 months
Ah, i can just imagine the parents stepping over a floor littered with countless trinkets. Especially Legos, oh God, the Legos.
 
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Lego seems like the kind of thing Rogal, and maybe Mortarion, would be into far more than any other primarch. Vulcan and Ferrus would probably be into Mechano instead
 
Interesting, wonder how this is gonna end up. This is a religious organization but possesses no active Deity. Might be possible to rebrand it as a philosophical organization about the nature of the Sun or other such thing when the Imperial Truth comes around.
Feel like this would fit.:p

Still though like said can easily be seen as a philosophy rather than a religion and nothing wrong for thanking the sun(s) since it literally allows life to be a thing at all on all worlds.
 
It's going to be interesting seeing how the Primarchs interact with the Emperor, given their mother's wildly differing relationships with him.

-Eve was his confidant and companion
-Queeny may or may not be his rejected and hateful daughter. (which makes Mordred her brother, which makes the quest for grand babies a bit odd...)
-Nomadmom is a former follower alienated by his secrecy.

Shit will get interesting once he shows up.
 
By the way, any chance that among the three moms they split the Primarchs among the three of them.
There are 18 Primarchs (not counting the lost 2 and counting the twins as one); divide that by three, each mom should have 6 Primarchs.
 
By the way, any chance that among the three moms they split the Primarchs among the three of them.
There are 18 Primarchs (not counting the lost 2 and counting the twins as one); divide that by three, each mom should have 6 Primarchs.
I think the logistics of it, Kelly and the Scholar both stuck on planets with no Warp capacity, ensures that only LionMom can compete with the Emperor in "Find the Primarch" match.

This could lead to a very interesting situation.

Don't forget Pertuabo. Guy LOVED architecture.
Well, he certainly loved bitching about not getting to play Sim Cities.
 
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I think the logistics of it, Kelly and the Scholar both stuck on planets with no Warp capacity, ensures that only LionMom can compete with the Emperor in "Find the Primarch" match.

This could lead to a very interesting situation.

In the case of Scholar, maybe Magnus and his mom could create some sort of Warp Gates.
 
In the case of Scholar, maybe Magnus and his mom could create some sort of Warp Gates.
Now, this may just be a huge blank of spot in my 40k knowledge. But i have no idea what this "Warp Gate" is. The only time i've heard of the term is when it concerns the Polar Warp Gates of Warhammer fantasy and if you're suggesting Magnus makes something like that i'll say that's fucking absurd.
 
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Now, this may just be a huge blank of spot in my 40k knowledge. But i have no idea what this "Warp Gate" is.
It's sorta like a tunnel in the warp, kinda like a stable wormwhole.

A Warp Gate is a point in realspace which is linked to another point in realspace by a tunnel through the Warp. The tunnel somehow avoids the normal disturbances of Warpspace, allowing a journey to be made within a fixed time and in perfect safety. The existence of Warp Gates represents something of a mystery, and much debate rages over whether they are natural or artificial. If artificial, then none can say who made them or for what purpose. Furthermore, some Warp Gates have been artificially enhanced, their entrances delineated by mechanical constructions whose exact function can only be guessed at. Other Warp Gates are mere black holes in space.
Warp Gates occur in the depths of space, at the boundaries of solar systems, within solar systems, and even on planets. The largest are easily big enough to permit the passage of spacecraft and are usually situated at the edge of a solar system or amongst its outer planets. Other gates are only large enough to permit the passage of small vehicles, or perhaps human-sized creatures. These occur mostly on planet surfaces and lead directly to other gates on the surfaces of other planets. All gates are rare, the smaller types extremely so. Planetary gates are often disguised, or respond only to electrical, psychic, or other signals, which would seem to indicate a certain amount of intended secrecy on the part of their builders.
 
Thanks, but this still doesn't help Magnus unless he just happens to find one on Prospero that just happens to lead to more.

If they're artificial, Magnus could try to recreate them. Also, if they are artificial then it would make sense if warp portals would lead to nexus points which would mean more portals.
 
If they're artificial, Magnus could try to recreate them. Also, if they are artificial then it would make sense if warp portals would lead to nexus points which would mean more portals.
Magnus could also magically pull a Warp Gate out of his ass, arrive at said potential nexus and achieve Godhood.

Where is he gaining the power and knowledge to accomplish these titanic feats ? That he can suddenly create stable tunnels through the Warp immune to disturbances across light years of distance ? How is he suddenly capable of feats that his canon self, tutored from childhood in warpcraft by Prospero's most learned psykers and the fucking Emperor was unable to achieve ?

Can we please stay grounded in actual possibilities ?
 
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I really hope that AngelMom is Eve. Because that would be delicious character development material.

... In fact, considering she's a mere 10 years younger than the Emperor, she is in all likelyhood Eve.

And since Sanguinius was amongst the earliest Primarchs found...
 
I really hope that AngelMom is Eve. Because that would be delicious character development material.

... In fact, considering she's a mere 10 years younger than the Emperor, she is in all likelyhood Eve.

And since Sanguinius was amongst the earliest Primarchs found...
Now i can't help but wonder what could have happened if NeroMom was here too. The dynamics of the Emperor's relationship with Eve and NeroMom would've been fascinating.
 
Reader Omake [Sithking Zero] - Don't Bet Against The (Head of) House
Down below, Ferrus Manus nodded smugly at the surrounding knights. They grudgingly handed over a few meager credits as the Gorgon's spoils. The Queen was often prone to meloncholy while on these quiet rides through the forests. It was unsettling to see the ageless woman so sad. Thus, Ferrus' rare moments of humor laid the seeds of impetuousness in the Crown Prince, resulting in the booming laughter and terrified shrieks far ahead.

No one other than her treasured son could commit such blasphemy against her person without being punished, after all.

"Mordred!"
"Come Mother! Did you not always tell me how you loved to fly?"

Ferrus chuckled and increased the speed of his vehicle, guiding the Queen Mother's horse towards her mistress' screams.

So. Uh.

Ferrus Mannus might not be a traitor, but he is a shit. And so is his brother.

... For some reason I just pictured Mordred showing off the newest batch of Super Knights and Lion'Mom Johnson orders him to stop... then pulls out a napkin and starts wiping his face.

"Wha- MOTHER!"

"Do you want the troops to see their Crown Prince, Heir to my Throne, with a smudged up face? I think NOT! I taught you better than this! Now hold still."

"... This is because of the Horse thing, isn't it."

"No, this is because of the Hovercar with spinning rims. My revenge for the horse thing is tomorrow."
 
Since Solaire is making the sunlight cult will that mean in addition to be scholars/sorcerers his planet will have a leading philosophy?

Also along with developing sorcery will Solaire introduce "miracles" like healing, sunlight spears, etc? Sunlight spears are badass and would be awesome if they become a thing lots of people do.

I wonder if it followers of Sunlight will be sorta like Rune Priests from Fenris.

Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?
 
Since Solaire is making the sunlight cult will that mean in addition to be scholars/sorcerers his planet will have a leading philosophy?

Also along with developing sorcery will Solaire introduce "miracles" like healing, sunlight spears, etc? Sunlight spears are badass and would be awesome if they become a thing lots of people do.

I wonder if it followers of Sunlight will be sorta like Rune Priests from Fenris.

Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?
The Sun shall be their catalyst.
 
Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?

why am I getting MLP fandom flashbacks? Something along the lines of "The Day shall last FOREVER!" Seriously a lot of weird stuff went around, is still going around undoubtedly, in that. Well that or the unconquered sun shows up and everything gets glowy and broken.
 
Since Solaire is making the sunlight cult will that mean in addition to be scholars/sorcerers his planet will have a leading philosophy?

Also along with developing sorcery will Solaire introduce "miracles" like healing, sunlight spears, etc? Sunlight spears are badass and would be awesome if they become a thing lots of people do.

I wonder if it followers of Sunlight will be sorta like Rune Priests from Fenris.

Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?
Like i said in the other thread. Magnus had some funky ideas about the Warp. According to him, the Warp/Great Ocean is home to the "Primordial Creator", the energy that animates all life and Warp Predators are fragments of it. It's not that hard to re-brand most of that stuff to reflect his Sun focused ideology.

Like, the Primordial Creator could be the First Sun and thus all life is animated by the life giving energies of the Great Sun. The Great Ocean is the Great Shadow that blocks the Material Realm from the First Sun. Warp Predators might be entities wishing to steal the First Sun's energies from reaching the Materium. Hm, this line of thought could make Magnus even more devoted to Warp research than in canon.

In canon Magnus got the inspiration for his psychic disciplines from an event he attributed to the Primordial Creator, with his focus on the sun, all the Thousand Sons powers would be changed to reflect that.

You'd need a World Spirit of Prospero for Magnus' Legion to be like the Rune Priests.

Unlikely, you need a whole lot more juice to create a God in 40k than in Fantasy.
 
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Since Solaire is making the sunlight cult will that mean in addition to be scholars/sorcerers his planet will have a leading philosophy?

Also along with developing sorcery will Solaire introduce "miracles" like healing, sunlight spears, etc? Sunlight spears are badass and would be awesome if they become a thing lots of people do.

I wonder if it followers of Sunlight will be sorta like Rune Priests from Fenris.

Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?
Celestial Sorcerers whos Psyker powers are based on the Stars in the heveans and other such cosmic forces. Insert Saint Seyia or Exalted joke here:V
 
So Knights are basically budget Space Marines (that also include females) right? Seems like they are not as super human but are more human compared to the angels of battle.

Be neat if Emps considers the idea a nice midpoint in the future since the Guard can benefit having their own super soldiers around.

On a random note I assume that Knights can and are encouraged to breed unlike Space Marines so that sounds like it would have interesting affects.
 
Ok, a ton of responses incoming...

Feel like this would fit.:p
Still though like said can easily be seen as a philosophy rather than a religion and nothing wrong for thanking the sun(s) since it literally allows life to be a thing at all on all worlds.
Exactly.
It's going to be interesting seeing how the Primarchs interact with the Emperor, given their mother's wildly differing relationships with him.

-Eve was his confidant and companion
-Queeny may or may not be his rejected and hateful daughter. (which makes Mordred her brother, which makes the quest for grand babies a bit odd...)
-Nomadmom is a former follower alienated by his secrecy.

Shit will get interesting once he shows up.
Yeah, I wrote each Mother (even the ones that weren't chosen) to be either somewhat with or against the Emperor in some way.

- Eve is and always will be the one person he could talk to about anything, since she was literally there for almost everything he went through, minus the super powerful Warp phenomena. She was also there for the fight between Emps and the Void Dragon.
- Mordred was tricked into believing the Emps, in his guise as Arthur, was her father for her formative years. It was only later on that she discovered she wasn't actually made from him, but another. She still considers the Emperor as her Father, as he was literally the epitome of everything she believed in during Camelot. She does try to get therapy every few millennia but it never quite sticks.
- Sage was one of his and Eve's agents between M1-M8 and M10-M13. After that, she broke off and went her own way. She is, of the three, the most against the Emperor.
By the way, any chance that among the three moms they split the Primarchs among the three of them.
There are 18 Primarchs (not counting the lost 2 and counting the twins as one); divide that by three, each mom should have 6 Primarchs.
No. Eve is mostly willing to let the Emperor take the lead unless she's required. Morded is the most likely but she'll only gather a few more beyond Ferrus and Lorgar.

Sage just doesn't care about anyone other than Solaire. Do remember that she went to Prospero for alone time and only took in baby Solaire because of adorableness.
In the case of Scholar, maybe Magnus and his mom could create some sort of Warp Gates.

Now, this may just be a huge blank of spot in my 40k knowledge. But i have no idea what this "Warp Gate" is. The only time i've heard of the term is when it concerns the Polar Warp Gates of Warhammer fantasy and if you're suggesting Magnus makes something like that i'll say that's fucking absurd.

If they're artificial, Magnus could try to recreate them. Also, if they are artificial then it would make sense if warp portals would lead to nexus points which would mean more portals.

Magnus could also magically pull a Warp Gate out of his ass, arrive at said potential nexus and achieve Godhood.

Where is he gaining the power and knowledge to accomplish these titanic feats ? That he can suddenly create stable tunnels through the Warp immune to disturbances across light years of distance ? How is he suddenly capable of feats that his canon self, tutored from childhood in warpcraft by Prospero's most learned psykers and the fucking Emperor was unable to achieve ?

Can we please stay grounded in actual possibilities ?
You guys, I'm sad to say that Solaire/Magnus being the Super-Psycker of the Primarchs will not be happening here. Psyker Bullshit is firmly of-magic, which Magnus was raised to not believe in. He'll research but after coming upon how everything is so ritualistic and vague, he'll be moving onto things he knows works.

Like Miracles.
I really hope that AngelMom is Eve. Because that would be delicious character development material.

... In fact, considering she's a mere 10 years younger than the Emperor, she is in all likelyhood Eve.

And since Sanguinius was amongst the earliest Primarchs found...
AngelMom is indeed Eve. She was, for the most part, nearly every major female hero during history. Mordred/LionMom and Sage as well.
Now i can't help but wonder what could have happened if NeroMom was here too. The dynamics of the Emperor's relationship with Eve and NeroMom would've been fascinating.
All the Mothers are in one universe.
So. Uh.

Ferrus Mannus might not be a traitor, but he is a shit. And so is his brother.

... For some reason I just pictured Mordred showing off the newest batch of Super Knights and Lion'Mom Johnson orders him to stop... then pulls out a napkin and starts wiping his face.

"Wha- MOTHER!"

"Do you want the troops to see their Crown Prince, Heir to my Throne, with a smudged up face? I think NOT! I taught you better than this! Now hold still."

"... This is because of the Horse thing, isn't it."

"No, this is because of the Hovercar with spinning rims. My revenge for the horse thing is tomorrow."
Indexing on the first post. Need a title.
Since Solaire is making the sunlight cult will that mean in addition to be scholars/sorcerers his planet will have a leading philosophy?

Also along with developing sorcery will Solaire introduce "miracles" like healing, sunlight spears, etc? Sunlight spears are badass and would be awesome if they become a thing lots of people do.

I wonder if it followers of Sunlight will be sorta like Rune Priests from Fenris.

Might a minor Warp god of the Sun form from the belief generated from the people?
Minor Warp god isn't happening. You need a Significant Following beyond a few planets to accomplish that and the last god to be born caused the end of humanity's golden age.

But I will be basing much of the Cult of Sunlight's stuff on miracles from DS.
Like i said in the other thread. Magnus had some funky ideas about the Warp. According to him, the Warp/Great Ocean is home to the "Primordial Creator", the energy that animates all life and Warp Predators are fragments of it. It's not that hard to re-brand most of that stuff to reflect his Sun focused ideology.

Like, the Primordial Creator could be the First Sun and thus all life is animated by the life giving energies of the Great Sun. The Great Ocean is the Great Shadow that blocks the Material Realm from the First Sun. Warp Predators might be entities wishing to steal the First Sun's energies from reaching the Materium. Hm, this line of thought could make Magnus even more devoted to Warp research than in canon.

In canon Magnus got the inspiration for his psychic disciplines from an event he attributed to the Primordial Creator, with his focus on the sun, all the Thousand Sons powers would be changed to reflect that.

You'd need a World Spirit of Prospero for Magnus' Legion to be like the Rune Priests.

Unlikely, you need a whole lot more juice to create a God in 40k than in Fantasy.
I'm working on Solaire/Maguns' new belief system which melds science and faith.

So Knights are basically budget Space Marines (that also include females) right? Seems like they are not as super human but are more human compared to the angels of battle.

Be neat if Emps considers the idea a nice midpoint in the future since the Guard can benefit having their own super soldiers around.

On a random note I assume that Knights can and are encouraged to breed unlike Space Marines so that sounds like it would have interesting affects.
Knights are to Space Marines as Space Marines are to Custodes.

Very watered down, made to be both disposable and mass-produced.

The Imperial Guard will never be having their own super soldiers. Even LionMom's empire does not have a super soldier army. Its regular troops supplemented by heavy troops. Her Knights are her version of Custodes.

They can indeed breed, though its not automatic. She has to grant them the privilege as a reward for their service. The children won't be immediate super soldiers, though improved over regular humans. They'd need to be modded, but they'll be stronger than their predecessors.
 
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