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Mass Effect: Glorious Shotgun Princess (ME/Exalted)

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Perhaps once Legion self conceptionalizes, he Exalts? Originally, he died in the same moment he discovered himself, which is probably as good a moment to Exalt as you're going to get.
 
Firnagzen said:
So... if Legion's Wuffle's ship is nowhere near, how did those geth get there? Did the geth leave those platforms in orbit as the ship passed?
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They were in orbit. Legion anticipated possibly needing more firepower.
 
Why would Shepard have Linguistics 0? I mean, sure, Shepard never demonstrated particular skill in language and word choice outside of the speeches but while they are brought expertly through her great Presence rating her word choice was good enough I'd give her a dot, or two.


That doesn't work South, Legion Wuffles is the result of 1 183 programs working together to animate the shell and make the decisions. Noone in Exalted has ever created a group consensus hivemind quite like that, and the entire soul structure of the Exalted themselves is based on the idea that you have an upper and a lower soul, this is true for every variety of Exalt, including the Alchemicals.
 
Hazard said:
Why would Shepard have Linguistics 0? I mean, sure, Shepard never demonstrated particular skill in language and word choice outside of the speeches but while they are brought expertly through her great Presence rating her word choice was good enough I'd give her a dot, or two.
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While there is a non-zero chance that Shepard knows about the Book of Mark and the entry about Legion, there is also a much lower chance of her actually applying it to the situation of the Geth in front of her. Eventually she would pick "Wuffles the Wonder Geth" because it fits, she's stuck on an ice world, and oh why not?
Firnagzen said:
Fair enough. Minor nitpick then: It should take a bit longer for something to drop from orbit, assuming no active boosting.
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Considering that geth platforms have mass effect cores, there was probably boosting involved. Also, LegionWuffles was probably trying to impress her.
 
:giggles in corner: WUFFLES! Oh, I can't wait for the squad's reaction to Wuffles' name.

Garrus: "Seriously, Shepard? Wuffles? Is this a human thing?"
 
Well yeah, but in my mind, there would be something like a minute of awkward staring and fidgeting (if Shepard even fidgets any more) and then bam, geth.
 
Firnagzen said:
Well yeah, but in my mind, there would be something like a minute of awkward staring and fidgeting (if Shepard even fidgets any more) and then bam, geth.
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Something like this:


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"Shepard Commander. You have not created shelter. In the interest of communication and as a gesture of cooperation, would you like us to create one?"

Slowly, she nods. Wuffles nods, extending his facial pedals, and stands completely still.

"Okay," Jane says, "Well. Okay. You can build a...shelter, I guess? I have some materials here, and when worse comes to worse I camp out in the Mako-

Several objects fall from the sky, impacting the ice field behind Wuffles. Rising, they extend arms and legs, unfolding long heads with single glowing eyes at the front. They begin speaking, the high pitched, stuttering click between them.

"Huh."

"We maintained several platforms in orbit in case additional units were required."

A high pitched stutter between the lanky, silver white bipeds.

"We will begin immediately. While the domicile is constructed, may we make inquiries about your interactions with the Old Machines?"
 
... I am now wondering if Shepard will take an extra dot in Linguistics and gain 'Machine Code' as a new language group. Even if she can't speak it, hardly impossible due to the structure of the human voicebox when compared to a speaker, just not needing a translator of some kind would throw people for a loop.

It would also help her with Project Overlord, if she will even stumble across that.
 
Hazard said:
Why would Shepard have Linguistics 0? I mean, sure, Shepard never demonstrated particular skill in language and word choice outside of the speeches but while they are brought expertly through her great Presence rating her word choice was good enough I'd give her a dot, or two.
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Because the thing that the Linguistics skill actually measures, as written, is how many languages you know. Sheppard, due to the prevalence of translation devices in Mass Effect, has shown no indication of knowing anything apart from English.

The fact that this also measures your "written Appearance"; how well you write and phrase things, is a mismatch between Exalted and real life, which is what I was making fun of.
 
Maybe she has a linguistics specialty of (+3 Badass Speeches)
 
Derp.

Moving along, favored Archery, Athletics, Awareness, Dodge, War?
 
EarthScorpion said:
Sheppard, due to the prevalence of translation devices in Mass Effect, has shown no indication of knowing anything apart from English.
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Shepard knows the entirety of Prothean culture, including written and spoken language. She also knows a little of quarian, I guess.
 
Silver sun 17 said:
not language, she could have talked to Javik in his own language otherwise.
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She can understand Vigil and can read Prothean script on Ilos.

She didn't get a chance to speak with Javik in Prothean language. And after he assimilated English, he just spoke in it.
 
Stavaros_Arcane said:
See this is what happens when you don't have an AI to help name things. Actually now I want to see Shepard name more things.

Let's see, things she could name: Grunt (Call him Mr.Fusspot, or Fluffy), Miniature Giant Space Hamster, Fish, the Rachni Queen, That Albino Varren on Tuchanka (Urz), any AI's or VI's she encounters. Crew members. ("you're name is Ensign Ricky now.") maybe giving affectionate nicknames to Squad mates. (Garrus, you're now Handsome Dan, Zaheed you're now Scarface, Jacob you're now Roadblock. Mordin, you are now Funk Doctor Sol. Jack you're now Hardass McBabykiller).
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Nah, doesn't work that way. It works with Legion Fluffles because he there really was no way to refer to him, while Grunt named himself. Shephard has never shown in any of the games a penchant for giving nicknames to her friends, so I doubt that would happen.
Stavaros_Arcane said:
Well there's just one question you have to ask yourself regarding Legion/Wuffles: "Does This Unit have a Soul?"
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This question is irrelevant. Legion Wuffles is the result of a consensus mind. He would have 1 183 souls, or 1 soul created from fusing the souls from all programs together, be it through permanent fusion or interlocking 'modules'. He would be a spirit possessing a specifically prepared golem, and as such completely unsuited for Exaltation.
Balagor said:
I am not sure Exalted and Serious belong in the same book, much less the same sentence.
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Nah, Exalted can do Serious pretty well, but that's mostly in the 'you have loads of power, what do you do with it?' department, with an emphasis on examining how having power changes you, your goals and your methods, as people lose the ability to say no to you.

It's pretty much designed for that by the way, to ask the question 'can you handle your power responsibly?' The answer has until now inevitably and invariably ended up being 'No' amongst the Exalted.
 
Shepard punches Luffles so hard, Autobot Exalts him out of sympathy.
 
enderverse said:
It would be funny if he only had a hun and not a po. Or something like that, not really sure about exalted stuff.
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And that makes it impossible for him to Exalt. The Exaltation is grafted onto the lower soul, the po soul. And even if he had a po soul rather than a hun soul it would still not be possible because then he would be lacking part of the qualifiers needed for Exaltation, as you do need a hun soul as well.

That's why the Mountain Folk and Dragon Kings can't Exalt. They have a single soul that fulfils all the same jobs.
Variel said:
Shepard punches Luffles so hard, Autobot Exalts him out of sympathy.
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Won't work, as an Alchemical Exaltation is extremely different from a Celestial or even a Terrestrial one. A Celestial Exaltation is jammed into your soul structure, a Terrestrial one is literally part of your genetic code and when activated also does something to your soul structure as you no longer qualify for Celestial Exaltation.

The Alchemical Exaltation process involves custom tailoring an effectively N/A level artifact to a hun/po soulstructure and then integrating them. Atleast, from what I can see of the general process in the fluff. It requires that you have the required souls on hand
 
EarthScorpion said:
Because the thing that the Linguistics skill actually measures, as written, is how many languages you know. Sheppard, due to the prevalence of translation devices in Mass Effect, has shown no indication of knowing anything apart from English.

The fact that this also measures your "written Appearance"; how well you write and phrase things, is a mismatch between Exalted and real life, which is what I was making fun of.
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There's quite a lot that doesn't match up with real life when you really start to think about it, but at least Linguistics has the excuse that you pretty much need more than one language to function in Creation. As a rule, the people who are going to be talented at flowery language are going to have learned more than one. The model here is more along the lines of Byron's Maid of Athens, ere we part than Shakespeare.
 
JacobGreyson said:
...At what point does the argument over who has what kind of soul end and the point that WUFFLES HAS A GODDAMNED SOUL come out?

Does this unit have a soul? If yes; Exalt is possible. Done. Move on to other minutea of the system, please.
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Nope, quite the contrary. The type of soul specifically matters; the only types of being capable of exalting have the hun-po dual soul set up only possessed by humans and the Lintha (who are Kimbery-modified humans anyway). The Dragon Kings and the Mountain Folk cannot Exalt, because although they have souls, they lack hun-po set ups.

There used to be all sorts of soul set-ups in Creation, until the victorious Exalted genocided everything that had been Primordial-loyal in the War.
 
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