Miss Teri
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With the Guardians movies and Thor: Ragnarok, there's really no excuse not to have a Kirbyesque movie.
Marvel's Eternals
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I demand to see some live action Kirby Dots.
When people say stuff like this, it all just sounds less like they actually think Marvel is gonna be less popular, and more just that's what they want to happen.
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People have been saying it in that particular tone for years.
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A bit yes a bit no. I find individual marvel films pretty watchable with some like the guardians films or Thor ragnarok rising above to be truly good. I don't like how they are the face of a giant corporate monopoly with awful business practices. The reason I don't think think they will ever reach the cultural heights of Endgame again is largely unrelated to that however. I just think that most people have a certain gauge in their mind before they lose interest in something and I am seeing some of the signs of it in the MCU who previously were mostly free from physical comics worst traits. Things like repeated retcons, time travel, death and rebirth and faked death and etc, multiple universes and multiple versions of the same character, event escalation and fatigue, important plot information hidden away in other supplementary stories or side material. All things that for years before the MCU were barriers to get a normal person to start reading comics. Things that as I said the MCU mostly avoided in its early run, instead focusing on telling digestible versions of some of the best stories but now perhaps through simple inertia has picked up.
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Shanejayell
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While this doesn't nail the coffin shut, I think this trailer mostly kills the theory Thanos is related.
The Eternals can't intervene unless it Deviant related, or one assumes if a Eternal looses their shit.
If T-boy was a Deviant, they'd have waxed his ass. If he was a Eternal, they'd at least try to stop him from messing with humans.
The Eternals can't intervene unless it Deviant related, or one assumes if a Eternal looses their shit.
If T-boy was a Deviant, they'd have waxed his ass. If he was a Eternal, they'd at least try to stop him from messing with humans.
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I mean, they didn't really bother him much in the comics either. In fact, they didn't know who he was until Starfox told them.
Then again, they were just isolationists in the comics and didn't have that rule specifically.
So basically the MCU is gonna die, because it wants to explore things like time travel and the multiverse.
That's pretty much what I'm hearing here.
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I think "die" is probably too strong a phrase. It's much more likely to slowly decline in scale as the films get too inaccessible for slowly increasing proportions of audiences and the budgets start to shrink as profits start to get less insane.
We're probably decades from the movies being too unpopular to be profitable enough to make, but also probably quite close to heading to the inevitable other side of the peak and the gentle downward slope that comes with it.
The MCU shall end not with a bang of "billion dollar profits to Zyzzx Road profits in a year" but with a whimper of slowly declining returns.
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i mean. Endgame wasn't that good as a movie movie. It was just a victory lap
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I've remarked before - the Marvel movies are more like a TV series than a movie series in some respects. There are standalone episodes and episodes following up on previous ones, but then there's the big Season Finales and big Season Openers that tie together plots and characters from past episodes and blow most of the budget. The Avengers movies are very much season finales, and need to be viewed as such - and like most season finales, they're more about tying up plot threads and shuffling the status quo than they are character arcs and character development, save in occasionally having a culminating moment for character arcs that were mostly developed over the season.
Infinity War and Endgame very much fail as movies, but as a two-parter season finale they're not bad.
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I'm not really thinking of it in terms of good or bad more in terms of cultural moment. I would put it very much on the same scale as things like Avatar, titanic or maybe the original star wars for big movie event everyone was talking about. I just don't really see that happening again to that degree with Marvel, you can only kill off half the universe and bring them back once.
Eventua
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It's might just be a question of "when", but I agree that it's probably a long way off - there have been franchises that weren't the same degree of colossal money making juggernaut as the MCU that have still last for decades, and the MCU could well reach an age that you start seeing a sort of "generational gap" akin to the Star Wars films --- on a small scale it's already present between those who grew up primarily with pre-MCU standalone superhero franchises (Sam Raimi's Spiderman trilogy; X-Men etc.); then to those who saw the MCU "from the beginning" and in some cases called the franchise quits with Infinity War/Endgame; and then into a younger generation for whom the MCU has been a formative franchise in their teens/early twenties who could well stick with it for a long time.
It's also owned by Disney, who are famously very good at sustaining their franchises in one form or another for decades after they were popular or relevant by treating them more like a library of *characters* more so than stories, that they can just dip into and use in future when they feel there's a market for it.
I suspect the MCU will only truly "die" - even as a whimper - if Disney itself is broken up, and while that would almost certainly be a good thing for many, many reasons I can't see that happening any time in the near future.
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Box Office: ‘Eternals’ Reigns Supreme With $71 Million Debut
Marvel's Eternals' opened with $71 million, the fourth best debut of the pandemic era but just shy of projections.
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Buying Earth X all the way back at the start of the 2000's really payed dividence when I think about it.
I thought it was my favourite MCU movie of the year (though it has some defintive flaws), defintiively did not expect me going "wait is this about abortion? "in the middle of the movie,
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It was good, welcome tonal shift from other recent MCU stuff, it'll be interesting to see how it gets tied back in with the rest. Kept expecting a random avenger to pop in to help, or nick fury wondering what the hell was going on, and I'm glad it didn't happen. Fun that Kingo has the Captain America USO shield.
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I enjoyed this film, it genuinely felt like something new, even made me a bit emotional at times.
The twist was pretty easy to figure out, since the trailers kinda spoil it, I really wish they had kept certain scenes out of the trailers, because this shit happened with Civil War as well.
I like that these characters do feel like they have been living in this world for thousands of years, Kingo in particular feels like the guy that's gotten the most involved without directly intervening, since obviously, he's not just a big Bollywood movie star, he's an entire family of movie stars (and some directors). Plus Thor used to follow him around as a kid. Gilgamesh apparently knew Odin as well, it's these kind of little details that I love.
The twist was pretty easy to figure out, since the trailers kinda spoil it, I really wish they had kept certain scenes out of the trailers, because this shit happened with Civil War as well.
I like that these characters do feel like they have been living in this world for thousands of years, Kingo in particular feels like the guy that's gotten the most involved without directly intervening, since obviously, he's not just a big Bollywood movie star, he's an entire family of movie stars (and some directors). Plus Thor used to follow him around as a kid. Gilgamesh apparently knew Odin as well, it's these kind of little details that I love.
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The trailers really did this movie dirty.
Well, to tell the truth, I wasn't excited to begin with. Of the movies of Phase 4 for this year, I was only really excited for Shang-Chi (which met my expectations) and Spider-Man. Black Widow sounded enjoyable enough, though her death put a damper on it, but I ended up really liking it.
But Eternals? Not only was it a property I wasn't familiar with, it sounded like another attempt at what they tried to do with Inhumans, having their own mutants and X-Men without having the real thing. Add in the typical "we were gods" stuff I have seen before and the bad trailers, and I was just gonna watch it to keep up to date with the MCU.
I did well keeping low expectations, because it really made me feel things.
It was certainly slower in its pacing than the usual MCU movie, but it did it to take its time and introduce and make us care about the characters. It was my biggest fear it wouldn't be able to handle the large cast, but it managed surprisingly well. It especially helped in that the whole story of the movie is about immortals desperately looking for a life purpose after their original purpose was finished, and this throughline runs through the movie and inform the actions of every Eternal, especially once they find out what their creator's goal was.
I had recently watched this video, so the themes of immortality, memories, and life meaning hit even harder.
More than that, I just liked most characters. The performances made them really likeable, and that was chemistry in their interactions, you could clearly see they were a sort of bizarre family.
It was not my favorite Marvel movie, but it being really different and trying something different elevated it IMO
Well, to tell the truth, I wasn't excited to begin with. Of the movies of Phase 4 for this year, I was only really excited for Shang-Chi (which met my expectations) and Spider-Man. Black Widow sounded enjoyable enough, though her death put a damper on it, but I ended up really liking it.
But Eternals? Not only was it a property I wasn't familiar with, it sounded like another attempt at what they tried to do with Inhumans, having their own mutants and X-Men without having the real thing. Add in the typical "we were gods" stuff I have seen before and the bad trailers, and I was just gonna watch it to keep up to date with the MCU.
I did well keeping low expectations, because it really made me feel things.
It was certainly slower in its pacing than the usual MCU movie, but it did it to take its time and introduce and make us care about the characters. It was my biggest fear it wouldn't be able to handle the large cast, but it managed surprisingly well. It especially helped in that the whole story of the movie is about immortals desperately looking for a life purpose after their original purpose was finished, and this throughline runs through the movie and inform the actions of every Eternal, especially once they find out what their creator's goal was.
I had recently watched this video, so the themes of immortality, memories, and life meaning hit even harder.
More than that, I just liked most characters. The performances made them really likeable, and that was chemistry in their interactions, you could clearly see they were a sort of bizarre family.
It was not my favorite Marvel movie, but it being really different and trying something different elevated it IMO
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Yeah, it is super weird. This feels like two movies stitched together to form one. The script is damn messy as hell and really brings things down.
Despite that, I love every one of these characters, and would love to see them back again. There is something quietly endearing about them, and the family/team dynamic was well built.
Despite that, I love every one of these characters, and would love to see them back again. There is something quietly endearing about them, and the family/team dynamic was well built.
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Eternals Is a Superhero Primer on Gnosticism - Reactor
First things first: overall, I liked Eternals. (Possibly more than my beloved colleague Emmet?) While I agree that there were creaky bits, some of the dialogue was too stilted, and there was just a bit too much going on, I liked that the movie tried to do something different within the framework...
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Eternals Is a Superhero Primer on Gnosticism - Reactor
First things first: overall, I liked Eternals. (Possibly more than my beloved colleague Emmet?) While I agree that there were creaky bits, some of the dialogue was too stilted, and there was just a bit too much going on, I liked that the movie tried to do something different within the framework...
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Props to Chloe Zhao for throwing in a bit of shade for the Snyder cut?